Re: [USR-TC] v.92... 3com's ripoff/joke plan
I just received the word today from my support people what it would take to upgrade to v.92. I bought my chassis in February, 1999. 1. Need to send the current ARC in for memory upgrade to 128. Memory needs to be soldered in. Cost - $750. Will give me a loaner ARC for a $2500 deposit. 2. Need to upgrade (replace) the 486 NMC to Pentium. Cost - $2,500. 3. Newest software version (I already downloaded it from my current support plan). Total cost to upgrade: $3,250. At 12:21 PM 2/26/02 -0600, WayneG wrote:
Actually that's incorrect. It will only cost the price of a software-only service contract for a base chassis, which is around $650-$700. I find this to be a reasonable cost, considering the glut of used TC equipment (super low cost) available.
-Wayne
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Yes you would need to pay an extra $2700 for the v.92 Software update. It is calculated per port...
It's a another 3com classic ripoff.
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This isn't to bad.. It could be alot worse. $750 to upgrade the ARCs is a good price, I think they go for between $3k and $4k new. (wont find these newer ones on the used market I bet) and Upping the NMC for $2500 is a great deal.. Who are you getting them through? My sources quoted me a little higher.. -Steve On Thursday 07 March 2002 10:59 am, you wrote:
I just received the word today from my support people what it would take to upgrade to v.92. I bought my chassis in February, 1999.
1. Need to send the current ARC in for memory upgrade to 128. Memory needs to be soldered in. Cost - $750. Will give me a loaner ARC for a $2500 deposit.
2. Need to upgrade (replace) the 486 NMC to Pentium. Cost - $2,500.
3. Newest software version (I already downloaded it from my current support plan).
Total cost to upgrade: $3,250.
At 12:21 PM 2/26/02 -0600, WayneG wrote:
Actually that's incorrect. It will only cost the price of a software-only service contract for a base chassis, which is around $650-$700. I find this to be a reasonable cost, considering the glut of used TC equipment (super low cost) available.
-Wayne
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To: <usr-tc@mailman.xmission.com> Cc: <WayneG@uplogon.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 11:59 AM Subject: RE: [USR-TC] v.92... 3com's ripoff/joke plan
Yes you would need to pay an extra $2700 for the v.92 Software update. It is calculated per port...
It's a another 3com classic ripoff.
-- Edgar D. Taylor President/CEO FIRST USA Inc. Voice: (800)716-6190 Email: ed@1st.net Web: www.1st.net --
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After a few emails from members of this group, I discovered that the vendor I bought this chassis from in Feb. 1999 slipped me a 486 NMC rather than a Hiper NMC. I notified the vendor about this, and they admitted I should have gotten a Hiper NMC, but have heard no more from them. If I don't get a replacement from them, I'll divulge their name so they can avoid doing business with this company. At 11:21 AM 3/7/02 -0800, you wrote:
This isn't to bad.. It could be alot worse. $750 to upgrade the ARCs is a good price, I think they go for between $3k and $4k new. (wont find these newer ones on the used market I bet) and Upping the NMC for $2500 is a great deal.. Who are you getting them through? My sources quoted me a little higher..
-Steve
On Thursday 07 March 2002 10:59 am, you wrote:
I just received the word today from my support people what it would take to upgrade to v.92. I bought my chassis in February, 1999.
1. Need to send the current ARC in for memory upgrade to 128. Memory needs to be soldered in. Cost - $750. Will give me a loaner ARC for a $2500 deposit.
2. Need to upgrade (replace) the 486 NMC to Pentium. Cost - $2,500.
3. Newest software version (I already downloaded it from my current support plan).
Total cost to upgrade: $3,250.
At 12:21 PM 2/26/02 -0600, WayneG wrote:
Actually that's incorrect. It will only cost the price of a software-only service contract for a base chassis, which is around $650-$700. I find this to be a reasonable cost, considering the glut of used TC equipment (super low cost) available.
-Wayne
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From: "Ed Taylor" <ed@1st.net>
To: <usr-tc@mailman.xmission.com> Cc: <WayneG@uplogon.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 11:59 AM Subject: RE: [USR-TC] v.92... 3com's ripoff/joke plan
Yes you would need to pay an extra $2700 for the v.92 Software update. It is calculated per port...
It's a another 3com classic ripoff.
-- Edgar D. Taylor President/CEO FIRST USA Inc. Voice: (800)716-6190 Email: ed@1st.net Web: www.1st.net --
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That is total cost for a meek 48 ports... NOT a FULL chassis. -- Edgar D. Taylor President/CEO FIRST USA Inc. -- -----Original Message----- From: usr-tc-admin@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:usr-tc-admin@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of John Mies Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 2:00 PM To: usr-tc@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: [USR-TC] v.92... 3com's ripoff/joke plan I just received the word today from my support people what it would take to upgrade to v.92. I bought my chassis in February, 1999. 1. Need to send the current ARC in for memory upgrade to 128. Memory needs to be soldered in. Cost - $750. Will give me a loaner ARC for a $2500 deposit. 2. Need to upgrade (replace) the 486 NMC to Pentium. Cost - $2,500. 3. Newest software version (I already downloaded it from my current support plan). Total cost to upgrade: $3,250. At 12:21 PM 2/26/02 -0600, WayneG wrote:
Actually that's incorrect. It will only cost the price of a software-only service contract for a base chassis, which is around $650-$700. I find this to be a reasonable cost, considering the glut of used TC equipment (super low cost) available.
-Wayne
----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Taylor" <ed@1st.net> To: <usr-tc@mailman.xmission.com> Cc: <WayneG@uplogon.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 11:59 AM Subject: RE: [USR-TC] v.92... 3com's ripoff/joke plan
Yes you would need to pay an extra $2700 for the v.92 Software update. It is calculated per port...
It's a another 3com classic ripoff.
-- Edgar D. Taylor President/CEO FIRST USA Inc. Voice: (800)716-6190 Email: ed@1st.net Web: www.1st.net --
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Number of ports weren't mentioned. Said the new NMC would support up to 720 ports. At 02:41 PM 3/7/02 -0500, Ed Taylor wrote:
That is total cost for a meek 48 ports... NOT a FULL chassis.
-- Edgar D. Taylor President/CEO FIRST USA Inc. --
-----Original Message----- From: usr-tc-admin@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:usr-tc-admin@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of John Mies Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 2:00 PM To: usr-tc@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: [USR-TC] v.92... 3com's ripoff/joke plan
I just received the word today from my support people what it would take to upgrade to v.92. I bought my chassis in February, 1999.
1. Need to send the current ARC in for memory upgrade to 128. Memory needs to be soldered in. Cost - $750. Will give me a loaner ARC for a $2500 deposit.
2. Need to upgrade (replace) the 486 NMC to Pentium. Cost - $2,500.
3. Newest software version (I already downloaded it from my current support plan).
Total cost to upgrade: $3,250.
At 12:21 PM 2/26/02 -0600, WayneG wrote:
Actually that's incorrect. It will only cost the price of a software-only service contract for a base chassis, which is around $650-$700. I find this to be a reasonable cost, considering the glut of used TC equipment (super low cost) available.
-Wayne
----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Taylor" <ed@1st.net> To: <usr-tc@mailman.xmission.com> Cc: <WayneG@uplogon.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 11:59 AM Subject: RE: [USR-TC] v.92... 3com's ripoff/joke plan
Yes you would need to pay an extra $2700 for the v.92 Software update. It is calculated per port...
It's a another 3com classic ripoff.
-- Edgar D. Taylor President/CEO FIRST USA Inc. Voice: (800)716-6190 Email: ed@1st.net Web: www.1st.net --
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John Mies wrote: "Number of ports weren't mentioned" Yep... another GOTCHA from 3com :0 Don't worry they aren't making it known unless you specifically ask the question. That way they can slip you for more later. -- Ed Taylor -----Original Message----- From: usr-tc-admin@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:usr-tc-admin@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of John Mies Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 3:02 PM To: usr-tc@mailman.xmission.com; usr-tc@mailman.xmission.com Subject: RE: [USR-TC] v.92... 3com's ripoff/joke plan Number of ports weren't mentioned. Said the new NMC would support up to 720 ports.
Hell, with the rate they keep tacking on the charges, it might actually be CHEAPER for me to do some sort of competative trade in with one of their competitors. In fact, I think I'll check on that. Paul John Mies wrote: "Number of ports weren't mentioned" Yep... another GOTCHA from 3com :0 Don't worry they aren't making it known unless you specifically ask the question. That way they can slip you for more later. -- Ed Taylor -----Original Message----- From: usr-tc-admin@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:usr-tc-admin@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of John Mies Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 3:02 PM To: usr-tc@mailman.xmission.com; usr-tc@mailman.xmission.com Subject: RE: [USR-TC] v.92... 3com's ripoff/joke plan Number of ports weren't mentioned. Said the new NMC would support up to 720 ports. _______________________________________________ USR-TC mailing list USR-TC@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/usr-tc
You haven't already? Patton had a good deal on old RAS gear. Thier v.92 is free and supposed to be out by end of March. -- Paul Farber Farber Technology farber@admin.f-tech.net Ph 570-628-5303 Fax 570-628-5545 On Thu, 7 Mar 2002 devious@minot.com wrote:
Hell, with the rate they keep tacking on the charges, it might actually be CHEAPER for me to do some sort of competative trade in with one of their competitors.
In fact, I think I'll check on that.
Paul
John Mies wrote: "Number of ports weren't mentioned"
Yep... another GOTCHA from 3com :0 Don't worry they aren't making it known unless you specifically ask the question. That way they can slip you for more later.
-- Ed Taylor
-----Original Message----- From: usr-tc-admin@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:usr-tc-admin@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of John Mies Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 3:02 PM To: usr-tc@mailman.xmission.com; usr-tc@mailman.xmission.com Subject: RE: [USR-TC] v.92... 3com's ripoff/joke plan
Number of ports weren't mentioned. Said the new NMC would support up to 720 ports.
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Looks like Patton really wants to work with ISP's. They truly seem to care. Reminds me of the old USR... -- Ed Taylor -----Original Message----- From: usr-tc-admin@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:usr-tc-admin@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of devious@minot.com Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 6:18 PM To: usr-tc@mailman.xmission.com Subject: RE: [USR-TC] v.92... 3com's ripoff/joke plan Hell, with the rate they keep tacking on the charges, it might actually be CHEAPER for me to do some sort of competative trade in with one of their competitors. In fact, I think I'll check on that. Paul
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