RE: [BBTC Ride_calendar] Rides for the months of January and February!
I think Susan raises some excellent points. However, it's painfully evident that she completely misses the obvious point of it all. Clearly, people who don't ride bikes should do all the work so we ALL can ride every day. (They should pay our rent/mortgages too, damn it.) -------------- Original message -------------- From: Susan Snyder <bikesnyder@yahoo.com>
I have dual memberships -- the BBTC and the Las Vegas Valley Bicycle Club (LVVBC). Maybe this can help:
The LVVBC has a large number of riders who are retired, so therefore we also have scheduled club rides during weekday mornings. Those who are retired or have more time off are always at an advantage for mileage awards because they can do four club ridces a week to the one or two the rest of us can do.
So currently, we are figuring on limiting mileage awards to only those rides the club actually sponsors/leads. That means the group of us heading to the Palm Springs Century don't get to include that 100 miles. But we do get to include the 90-mile ride the LVVBC sponsors on a weekend trip to the Grand Canyon North rim.
I suppose it is a matter of deciding what you want the mileage award to accomplish: Rewarding people who ride, whether or not it is with the club, or rewarding them for logging a lot of club miles and supporting the club.
After all, if there aren't enough rides for them to log the miles they want, perhaps they should lead some rides. As the former BBTC ride captain, I know how hard it is to get leaders. Maybe this would serve a dual purpose.
Susan Snyder BBTC & LVVBC member (Who is soon returning to Utah and will lead BBTC rides)
--- Greg McMurdie wrote:
Rob - If we have significant numbers who go out of state on a ride, I think it makes sense to give them all credit. For example, if we have ten or more who go to Death Valley in February, I think they should get credit. It seems to me that the purpose of the mileage awards is to encourage cycling with other club members. This would seem to fit the bill. As far as rides the next few months, I think it would be a good idea if rides that are scheduled on the web site that aren't in the newletter should also be considered for approval for mileage credit. The weather plays havoc during these months. Thanks for all you and the other board members do for the club!
Smack
From: "Robert Yuschak" To: "BBTC Ride mail list" Subject: [BBTC Ride_calendar] Rides for the months of January and February! Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 21:07:46 -0700
The dead line for posting rides for Jan and Feb is fast approaching. If you are thinking of leading any rides during these winter months you only have five more days to post them in time for approval and getting them into our newsletter.
FYI: It has been asked if out of state rides would be eligible for club mileage credit. To date, it has been club policy to not award mileage for out of state starts and since we are already into the winter riding cycle we will continue to operate under that same ruling. What are your thoughts on this? Would you, the members of BBTC, like to allow miles earned for out of state rides if they are posted within the guide lines of the ride calendar? Or, does it create an unfair advantage for those fortunate to have the flexibility to go south during the winter months and extend their riding season to year round? I realize not all of us are inspired by the potential to be the high mileage leader of the club but are happy with going out for a fun pedal with good friends on a nice day and don't care either way about the miles. I understand and think that's great, I would still welcome your input on the subject as I begin and continue to learn the role of road captain and work to create rides for every member and bicycling enthusiast.
I am looking forward to working and riding with everyone in the coming year!
Safe journeys,
Rob Y.
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You're welcome for the input. Please remove me from the list. Thanks, Susan Snyder LCI #809kc --- jp2705@comcast.net wrote:
I think Susan raises some excellent points. However, it's painfully evident that she completely misses the obvious point of it all. Clearly, people who don't ride bikes should do all the work so we ALL can ride every day. (They should pay our rent/mortgages too, damn it.)
-------------- Original message -------------- From: Susan Snyder <bikesnyder@yahoo.com>
I have dual memberships -- the BBTC and the Las Vegas Valley Bicycle Club (LVVBC). Maybe this can help:
The LVVBC has a large number of riders who are retired, so therefore we also have scheduled club rides during weekday mornings. Those who are retired or have more time off are always at an advantage for mileage awards because they can do four club ridces a week to the one or two the rest of us can do.
So currently, we are figuring on limiting mileage awards to only those rides the club actually sponsors/leads. That means the group of us heading to the Palm Springs Century don't get to include that 100 miles. But we do get to include the 90-mile ride the LVVBC sponsors on a weekend trip to the Grand Canyon North rim.
I suppose it is a matter of deciding what you want the mileage award to accomplish: Rewarding people who ride, whether or not it is with the club, or rewarding them for logging a lot of club miles and supporting the club.
After all, if there aren't enough rides for them to log the miles they want, perhaps they should lead some rides. As the former BBTC ride captain, I know how
hard it is to get leaders. Maybe this would serve a dual purpose.
Susan Snyder BBTC & LVVBC member (Who is soon returning to Utah and will lead BBTC rides)
--- Greg McMurdie wrote:
Rob - If we have significant numbers who go out of state on a ride, I think it makes sense to give them all credit. For example, if we have ten or more who go to Death Valley in February, I think they
should get credit. It seems to me that the purpose of the mileage awards is to encourage cycling with other club members. This would seem to fit the bill. As far as rides the next few months, I think it would be a good idea if rides that are scheduled on the web site that aren't in the newletter should also be considered for approval for mileage credit. The weather plays havoc during these months. Thanks for all you and the other board members do for the club!
Smack
From: "Robert Yuschak" To: "BBTC Ride mail list" Subject: [BBTC Ride_calendar] Rides for the months of January and February! Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 21:07:46 -0700
The dead line for posting rides for Jan and Feb is fast approaching. If you are thinking of leading any rides during these winter months you only have five more days to post them in time for approval and getting them into our newsletter.
FYI: It has been asked if out of state rides would be eligible for club mileage credit. To date, it has been club policy to not award mileage for out of state starts and since we are already into the winter riding cycle we will continue to operate under that same ruling. What are your thoughts on this? Would you, the members of BBTC, like to allow miles earned for out of state rides if they are posted within the guide
lines of the ride calendar?
Or, does it create an unfair advantage for those fortunate to have the flexibility to go south during the winter months and extend their riding season to year round? I realize not all of us are inspired by the potential to be the high mileage leader of the club but are happy with going out for a fun pedal with good friends on a nice day and don't care either way about the miles. I understand and think that's great, I would still welcome your input on the subject as I begin and continue to
learn the role of road
captain and work to create rides for every member and bicycling enthusiast.
I am looking forward to working and riding with
everyone in the coming
year!
Safe journeys,
Rob Y.
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