Re: [Police] questions, and boxed set thoughts
Steve - Yes!! Finally someone else who loves "A Sermon". :) Christopher - Sting says he has writer's block? Which interview is that, and what else did he say? It would certainly explain why we haven't heard anything about him writing... normally there's that three-to-four year gap between new studio albums, and by now we'd be hearing something. I thought at first that Songs from the Labyrinth and its tour was keeping him busy, but writer's block would certainly explain it. Still, considering that he came back from his last period of writer's block alright, I'm not going to worry. Giovanni - I'm still a bit confused. Toni's joke came after the note on Stingus, so that can't be why it was taken down... or is it that the joke got further than just the immediate fandom and was linked in A&M's mind was Stingus? Also, I like the list someone posted of tracks that could be put on a new boxed set. It'd certainly be better than what I read on Stingus about five new tracks... even apart from remixes that were released after the 1993 boxed set, we know there's more stuff than just those five tracks in the vaults. And heck, they should definitely include some demos - the ones that have floated around the fandom have been interesting enough to merit inclusion. And demos do sell - look at the Nirvana boxed set, for instance. The idea of their just putting five new tracks on a new release also sounds suspect. They must realise it's not incentive enough for people to go out and buy almost the same product all over again. What's more likely, since downloading has become a big factor in the industry since the last boxed set, is that a lot of people will simply download those five tracks from somewhere. Not suggesting or condoning, for the purposes of keeping this list all shipshape and above board, just saying that the record company must consider this angle and the impact it would have on sales if that's all the new stuff they were offering. What would make it a worthwhile purchase (apart from including the sort of stuff mentioned on the list) would be other extra material - the booklet in the original box was comprehensive, but it would be interesting if someone were to write a new one detailing the band members' post-Police work, and most significantly, the effect the band had on the industry - God knows, their influence can be felt among many diverse bands. Even when you look through a metal/punk magazine like Kerrang!, you see bands like Feeder and Lostprophets citing them as an influence, amongst others. The Police might not be fashionable amongst a generation of music critics who - as someone said last week - were too young to appreciate them the first time round, but young musicians certainly haven't disregarded them. Angeline
Angeline, I can't remember a specific source for the writer's block quote but it was *right* after he had started his BROKEN MUSIC tour. (I remember going "aha! that explains it".) It was literally just a quote box in a magazine or something. There was no context given, just that writing SACRED LOVE had been very hard and he hadn't been able to write song one since then, and that writing the book had also been very hard for him. The lute album and the Police reunion would also both make sense in that context... he's stalling. :-) In the great 86/87 writer's block period, he of course saved the rainforests, did a musical on Broadway and attempted the *last* Police reunion ,so I actually still feel like something's possible now. (Maybe a police reunion on broadway to save the rainforests...? Andy can tapdance, can't he?) Christopher PS--I agree with you that it will be a bitter pill to swallow if MESSAGE IN A BOX comes out with five new tracks. I hope they will at least dig in the vaults for various gems Stewart has mentioned over the years, things like the "reggae" demo of Every Breath You Take. I want stuff that's never been released! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
...Yes, that is the most appealing thing about a boxset reissue - the unreleased material i especially want to hear the 'full' version of 'king of pain' that hugh padgam mentioned in Uncut magazine a few years ago... --- Christopher Simar <casimar@yahoo.com> wrote:
Angeline,
I can't remember a specific source for the writer's block quote but it was *right* after he had started his BROKEN MUSIC tour. (I remember going "aha! that explains it".) It was literally just a quote box in a magazine or something. There was no context given, just that writing SACRED LOVE had been very hard and he hadn't been able to write song one since then, and that writing the book had also been very hard for him. The lute album and the Police reunion would also both make sense in that context... he's stalling. :-)
In the great 86/87 writer's block period, he of course saved the rainforests, did a musical on Broadway and attempted the *last* Police reunion ,so I actually still feel like something's possible now. (Maybe a police reunion on broadway to save the rainforests...? Andy can tapdance, can't he?)
Christopher
PS--I agree with you that it will be a bitter pill to swallow if MESSAGE IN A BOX comes out with five new tracks. I hope they will at least dig in the vaults for various gems Stewart has mentioned over the years, things like the "reggae" demo of Every Breath You Take. I want stuff that's never been released!
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Huh? Full version? Never heard of this. Interesting. ~~-----Original Message----- ~~From: police-bounces+krapola=shaw.ca@mailman.xmission.com ~~[mailto:police-bounces+krapola=shaw.ca@mailman.xmission.com] ~~On Behalf Of foxie ~~Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 9:21 AM ~~To: police@mailman.xmission.com ~~Subject: Re: [Police] questions, and boxed set thoughts ~~ ~~ ~~ ...Yes, that is the most appealing thing about a ~~boxset reissue - the unreleased material i especially ~~want to hear the 'full' version of 'king of pain' that ~~hugh padgam mentioned in Uncut magazine a few years ~~ago...
Giovanni - I'm still a bit confused. Toni's joke came after the note on Stingus, so that can't be why it >was taken down... or is it that the joke got further than just the immediate fandom and was linked in >A&M's mind was Stingus?
For what I know, it came from Toni first...and Stingus followed...am I the only one who got it this way? At least, Toni told me he did the joke himself, and in my mail it came his joke first and Stingus note later. Back to Stewart comment on Uncut: For Sting, a reformation would be a career move in the wrong direction, but for me it wouldn't be any career move at all. I guess (guitarist) Andy Summers is somewhere between those two points Even if this is exactly what I meant some e-mails ago, when I said Sting would be sort of 'mad' to come back and do a tour of 80 concerts and more, yesterday I was thinking that IF Sting wants to come back with The Police, beyond the Anniversary, there might be something maybe bigger than that in his mind, and in this case it can even be possible that IF he wants to reform The Police, he may do it in the 'bigger way ever' with a proper long tour. Now, said that, and what I said in my previous e-mail, you can see I am a human being with contradictions, just to prove to myself I still have a working mind, but these are just a couple of options that came to my mind thinking about why and what the band will do .... beyond the 'date' they will do soon. Giovanni Ps.: can you read between lines??? hihihihi.... Also, I like the list someone posted of tracks that could be put on a new boxed set. It'd certainly be better than what I read on Stingus about five new tracks... even apart from remixes that were released after the 1993 boxed set, we know there's more stuff than just those five tracks in the vaults. And heck, they should definitely include some demos - the ones that have floated around the fandom have been interesting enough to merit inclusion. And demos do sell - look at the Nirvana boxed set, for instance. The idea of their just putting five new tracks on a new release also sounds suspect. They must realise it's not incentive enough for people to go out and buy almost the same product all over again. What's more likely, since downloading has become a big factor in the industry since the last boxed set, is that a lot of people will simply download those five tracks from somewhere. Not suggesting or condoning, for the purposes of keeping this list all shipshape and above board, just saying that the record company must consider this angle and the impact it would have on sales if that's all the new stuff they were offering. What would make it a worthwhile purchase (apart from including the sort of stuff mentioned on the list) would be other extra material - the booklet in the original box was comprehensive, but it would be interesting if someone were to write a new one detailing the band members' post-Police work, and most significantly, the effect the band had on the industry - God knows, their influence can be felt among many diverse bands. Even when you look through a metal/punk magazine like Kerrang!, you see bands like Feeder and Lostprophets citing them as an influence, amongst others. The Police might not be fashionable amongst a generation of music critics who - as someone said last week - were too young to appreciate them the first time round, but young musicians certainly haven't disregarded them. Angeline ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Police mailing list Police@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/police __________ Informazione NOD32 1963 (20070108) __________ Questo messaggio h stato controllato dal Sistema Antivirus NOD32 http://www.nod32.it
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