Re: [Police] questions, and boxed set thoughts
On my way home last night I started pondering the writing method. I really like that new Fergilicious song and it got me thinking. You think with all the music in the world, we'd run out of new, catchy songs to listen to, but somehow, the wheels keep rolling. Thank goodness. Was also cleaning up my ipod lists (rating them w/stars) and was awestruck by the percentage of Sting's songs that got 5 stars from me. I can see why one would have writers block, that's a boatload of great songs! Other artists that got 5 stars for a majority of their songs were Squeeze, Talking Heads, Joe Sumner, and Gavin DeGraw. My ratings, of course! michelle In a message dated 1/9/07 10:48:55 AM, casimar@yahoo.com writes:
Angeline,
I can't remember a specific source for the writer's block quote but it was *right* after he had started his BROKEN MUSIC tour. (I remember going "aha! that explains it".) It was literally just a quote box in a magazine or something. There was no context given, just that writing SACRED LOVE had been very hard and he hadn't been able to write song one since then, and that writing the book had also been very hard for him. The lute album and the Police reunion would also both make sense in that context... he's stalling. :-)
In the great 86/87 writer's block period, he of course saved the rainforests, did a musical on Broadway and attempted the *last* Police reunion ,so I actually still feel like something's possible now. (Maybe a police reunion on broadway to save the rainforests...? Andy can tapdance, can't he?)
Christopher
PS--I agree with you that it will be a bitter pill to swallow if MESSAGE IN A BOX comes out with five new tracks. I hope they will at least dig in the vaults for various gems Stewart has mentioned over the years, things like the "reggae" demo of Every Breath You Take. I want stuff that's never been released!
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Most songwriters have a shorter career than Sting, that's for sure, and the bulk of writing seems to occur when they're in their 20s. (Still, I do remember Sting saying after SOUL CAGES that he had "finally run out of Last Exit songs" to cannibalize and now he was in trouble...) That said, I would rate "his" first eight released albums (Police + 3 solo) as near perfect. I love everything he wrote for those records. It's only after that when I start to say "hmmm" every once in a while, and don't love *every* song. But I love most. It's a pretty amazing catalog. I want his solo boxed set, too, with all the demos and lost b-sides. :-) Christopher --- Stingfan222@aol.com wrote:
On my way home last night I started pondering the writing method. I really like that new Fergilicious song and it got me thinking. You think with all the music in the world, we'd run out of new, catchy songs to listen to, but somehow, the wheels keep rolling. Thank goodness.
Was also cleaning up my ipod lists (rating them w/stars) and was awestruck by the percentage of Sting's songs that got 5 stars from me. I can see why one would have writers block, that's a boatload of great songs! Other artists that got 5 stars for a majority of their songs were Squeeze, Talking Heads, Joe Sumner, and Gavin DeGraw. My ratings, of course!
michelle
In a message dated 1/9/07 10:48:55 AM, casimar@yahoo.com writes:
Angeline,
I can't remember a specific source for the writer's block quote but it was *right* after he had started his BROKEN MUSIC tour. (I remember going "aha! that explains it".) It was literally just a quote box in a magazine or something. There was no context given, just that writing SACRED LOVE had been very hard and he hadn't been able to write song one since then, and that writing the book had also been very hard for him. The lute album and the Police reunion would also both make sense in that context... he's stalling. :-)Â
In the great 86/87 writer's block period, he of course saved the rainforests, did a musical on Broadway and attempted the *last* Police reunion ,so I actually still feel like something's possible now. (Maybe a police reunion on broadway to save the rainforests...? Andy can tapdance, can't he?)
Christopher
PS--I agree with you that it will be a bitter pill to swallow if MESSAGE IN A BOX comes out with five new tracks. I hope they will at least dig in the vaults for various gems Stewart has mentioned over the years, things like the "reggae" demo of Every Breath You Take. I want stuff that's never been released!Â
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...I would agree with Chris on the "8 records being near perfect" assessment...in fact, I go even farther - I think his first 10 records (up to MERCURY FALLING) are near perfect. Also agreed that I would be just a jazzed to hear Sting's unreleased and b-sides as I would The Police... Rich --- Christopher Simar <casimar@yahoo.com> wrote:
Most songwriters have a shorter career than Sting, that's for sure, and the bulk of writing seems to occur when they're in their 20s. (Still, I do remember Sting saying after SOUL CAGES that he had "finally run out of Last Exit songs" to cannibalize and now he was in trouble...)
That said, I would rate "his" first eight released albums (Police + 3 solo) as near perfect. I love everything he wrote for those records. It's only after that when I start to say "hmmm" every once in a while, and don't love *every* song. But I love most. It's a pretty amazing catalog. I want his solo boxed set, too, with all the demos and lost b-sides. :-)
Christopher
--- Stingfan222@aol.com wrote:
On my way home last night I started pondering the writing method. I really like that new Fergilicious song and it got me thinking. You think with all the music in the world, we'd run out of new, catchy songs to listen to, but somehow, the wheels keep rolling. Thank goodness.
Was also cleaning up my ipod lists (rating them w/stars) and was awestruck by the percentage of Sting's songs that got 5 stars from me. I can see why one would have writers block, that's a boatload of great songs! Other artists that got 5 stars for a majority of their songs were Squeeze, Talking Heads, Joe Sumner, and Gavin DeGraw. My ratings, of course!
michelle
In a message dated 1/9/07 10:48:55 AM, casimar@yahoo.com writes:
Angeline,
I can't remember a specific source for the writer's block quote but it was *right* after he had started his BROKEN MUSIC tour. (I remember going "aha! that explains it".) It was literally just a quote box in a magazine or something. There was no context given, just that writing SACRED LOVE had been very hard and he hadn't been able to write song one since then, and that writing the book had also been very hard for him. The lute album and the Police reunion would also both make sense in that context... he's stalling. :-)Â
In the great 86/87 writer's block period, he of course saved the rainforests, did a musical on Broadway and attempted the *last* Police reunion ,so I actually still feel like something's possible now. (Maybe a police reunion on broadway to save the rainforests...? Andy can tapdance, can't he?)
Christopher
PS--I agree with you that it will be a bitter pill to swallow if MESSAGE IN A BOX comes out with five new tracks. I hope they will at least dig in the vaults for various gems Stewart has mentioned over the years, things like the "reggae" demo of Every Breath You Take. I want stuff that's never been released!Â
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In fact I think I'd agree with you agreeing with me... ten albums probably for me, too. I felt like the only person that *did* like Mercury Falling, but I was happy with that one (w/ 25 to Midnight on it). Christopher --- foxie <forfoxie@yahoo.com> wrote:
...I would agree with Chris on the "8 records being near perfect" assessment...in fact, I go even farther - I think his first 10 records (up to MERCURY FALLING) are near perfect. Also agreed that I would be just a jazzed to hear Sting's unreleased and b-sides as I would The Police...
Rich
--- Christopher Simar <casimar@yahoo.com> wrote:
Most songwriters have a shorter career than Sting, that's for sure, and the bulk of writing seems to occur when they're in their 20s. (Still, I do remember Sting saying after SOUL CAGES that he had "finally run out of Last Exit songs" to cannibalize and now he was in trouble...)
That said, I would rate "his" first eight released albums (Police + 3 solo) as near perfect. I love everything he wrote for those records. It's only after that when I start to say "hmmm" every once in a while, and don't love *every* song. But I love most. It's a pretty amazing catalog. I want his solo boxed set, too, with all the demos and lost b-sides. :-)
Christopher
--- Stingfan222@aol.com wrote:
On my way home last night I started pondering the writing method. I really like that new Fergilicious song and it got me thinking. You think with all the music in the world, we'd run out of new, catchy songs to listen to, but somehow, the wheels keep rolling. Thank goodness.
Was also cleaning up my ipod lists (rating them w/stars) and was awestruck by the percentage of Sting's songs that got 5 stars from me. I can see why one would have writers block, that's a boatload of great songs! Other artists that got 5 stars for a majority of their songs were Squeeze, Talking Heads, Joe Sumner, and Gavin DeGraw. My ratings, of course!
michelle
In a message dated 1/9/07 10:48:55 AM, casimar@yahoo.com writes:
Angeline,
I can't remember a specific source for the writer's block quote but it was *right* after he had started his BROKEN MUSIC tour. (I remember going "aha! that explains it".) It was literally just a quote box in a magazine or something. There was no context given, just that writing SACRED LOVE had been very hard and he hadn't been able to write song one since then, and that writing the book had also been very hard for him. The lute album and the Police reunion would also both make sense in that context... he's stalling. :-)Â
In the great 86/87 writer's block period, he of course saved the rainforests, did a musical on Broadway and attempted the *last* Police reunion ,so I actually still feel like something's possible now. (Maybe a police reunion on broadway to save the rainforests...? Andy can tapdance, can't he?)
Christopher
PS--I agree with you that it will be a bitter pill to swallow if MESSAGE IN A BOX comes out with five new tracks. I hope they will at least dig in the vaults for various gems Stewart has mentioned over the years, things like the "reggae" demo of Every Breath You Take. I want stuff that's never been released!Â
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MF may be my fave record by him, Chris...because I find it to be the least "commerical"... --- Christopher Simar <casimar@yahoo.com> wrote:
In fact I think I'd agree with you agreeing with me... ten albums probably for me, too. I felt like the only person that *did* like Mercury Falling, but I was happy with that one (w/ 25 to Midnight on it).
Christopher
--- foxie <forfoxie@yahoo.com> wrote:
...I would agree with Chris on the "8 records being near perfect" assessment...in fact, I go even farther - I think his first 10 records (up to MERCURY FALLING) are near perfect. Also agreed that I would be just a jazzed to hear Sting's unreleased and b-sides as I would The Police...
Rich
--- Christopher Simar <casimar@yahoo.com> wrote:
Most songwriters have a shorter career than Sting, that's for sure, and the bulk of writing seems to occur when they're in their 20s. (Still, I do remember Sting saying after SOUL CAGES that he had "finally run out of Last Exit songs" to cannibalize and now he was in trouble...)
That said, I would rate "his" first eight released albums (Police + 3 solo) as near perfect. I love everything he wrote for those records. It's only after that when I start to say "hmmm" every once in a while, and don't love *every* song. But I love most. It's a pretty amazing catalog. I want his solo boxed set, too, with all the demos and lost b-sides. :-)
Christopher
--- Stingfan222@aol.com wrote:
On my way home last night I started pondering the writing method. I really like that new Fergilicious song and it got me thinking. You think with all the music in the world, we'd run out of new, catchy songs to listen to, but somehow, the wheels keep rolling. Thank goodness.
Was also cleaning up my ipod lists (rating them w/stars) and was awestruck by the percentage of Sting's songs that got 5 stars from me. I can see why one would have writers block, that's a boatload of great songs! Other artists that got 5 stars for a majority of their songs were Squeeze, Talking Heads, Joe Sumner, and Gavin DeGraw. My ratings, of course!
michelle
In a message dated 1/9/07 10:48:55 AM, casimar@yahoo.com writes:
Angeline,
I can't remember a specific source for the writer's block quote but it was *right* after he had started his BROKEN MUSIC tour. (I remember going "aha! that explains it".) It was literally just a quote box in a magazine or something. There was no context given, just that writing SACRED LOVE had been very hard and he hadn't been able to write song one since then, and that writing the book had also been very hard for him. The lute album and the Police reunion would also both make sense in that context... he's stalling. :-)Â
In the great 86/87 writer's block period, he of course saved the rainforests, did a musical on Broadway and attempted the *last* Police reunion ,so I actually still feel like something's possible now. (Maybe a police reunion on broadway to save the rainforests...? Andy can tapdance, can't he?)
Christopher
PS--I agree with you that it will be a bitter pill to swallow if MESSAGE IN A BOX comes out with five new tracks. I hope they will at least dig in the vaults for various gems Stewart has mentioned over the years, things like the "reggae" demo of Every Breath You Take. I want stuff that's never been released!Â
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I find even the album I don't like, I END UP liking because I give it waaaaaay more time than most artists. ~~-----Original Message----- ~~From: police-bounces+krapola=shaw.ca@mailman.xmission.com ~~[mailto:police-bounces+krapola=shaw.ca@mailman.xmission.com] ~~On Behalf Of Christopher Simar ~~Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 12:34 PM ~~To: police@mailman.xmission.com ~~Subject: Re: [Police] questions, and boxed set thoughts ~~ ~~ ~~In fact I think I'd agree with you agreeing with me... ~~ten albums probably for me, too. I felt like the only ~~person that *did* like Mercury Falling, but I was ~~happy with that one (w/ 25 to Midnight on it). ~~ ~~Christopher ~~ ~~ ~~--- foxie <forfoxie@yahoo.com> wrote: ~~ ~~> ...I would agree with Chris on the "8 records being ~~> near perfect" assessment...in fact, I go even ~~> farther ~~> - I think his first 10 records (up to MERCURY ~~> FALLING) ~~> are near perfect. Also agreed that I would be just a ~~> jazzed to hear Sting's unreleased and b-sides as I ~~> would The Police... ~~> ~~> Rich ~~> ~~> --- Christopher Simar <casimar@yahoo.com> wrote: ~~> ~~> > Most songwriters have a shorter career than Sting, ~~> > that's for sure, and the bulk of writing seems to ~~> > occur when they're in their 20s. (Still, I do ~~> > remember Sting saying after SOUL CAGES that he had ~~> > "finally run out of Last Exit songs" to ~~> cannibalize ~~> > and now he was in trouble...) ~~> > ~~> > That said, I would rate "his" first eight released ~~> > albums (Police + 3 solo) as near perfect. I love everything he ~~> > wrote for those records. It's only after that when I ~~start to say ~~> > "hmmm" every once ~~> in ~~> > a ~~> > while, and don't love *every* song. But I love ~~> > most. ~~> > It's a pretty amazing catalog. I want his solo ~~> > boxed ~~> > set, too, with all the demos and lost b-sides. :-) ~~> > ~~> > Christopher ~~> > ~~> > --- Stingfan222@aol.com wrote: ~~> > ~~> > > On my way home last night I started pondering ~~> the ~~> > > writing method. I really ~~> > > like that new Fergilicious song and it got me ~~> > > thinking. You think with all the ~~> > > music in the world, we'd run out of new, catchy ~~> > > songs to listen to, but ~~> > > somehow, the wheels keep rolling. Thank ~~> goodness. ~~> > > ~~> > > Was also cleaning up my ipod lists (rating them ~~> > > w/stars) and was awestruck by ~~> > > the percentage of Sting's songs that got 5 stars ~~> > > from me. I can see why one ~~> > > would have writers block, that's a boatload of ~~> > great ~~> > > songs! Other artists that ~~> > > got 5 stars for a majority of their songs were ~~> > > Squeeze, Talking Heads, Joe ~~> > > Sumner, and Gavin DeGraw. My ratings, of course! ~~> > > ~~> > > michelle ~~> > > ~~> > > In a message dated 1/9/07 10:48:55 AM, ~~> > > casimar@yahoo.com writes: ~~> > > ~~> > > ~~> > > > Angeline, ~~> > > > ~~> > > > I can't remember a specific source for the ~~> > > writer's ~~> > > > block quote but it was *right* after he had ~~> > > started ~~> > > > his BROKEN MUSIC tour. (I remember going ~~> "aha! ~~> > > that ~~> > > > explains it".) It was literally just a quote ~~> > box ~~> > > in a ~~> > > > magazine or something. There was no context ~~> > > given, ~~> > > > just that writing SACRED LOVE had been very ~~> hard ~~> > > and ~~> > > > he hadn't been able to write song one since ~~> > then, ~~> > > and ~~> > > > that writing the book had also been very hard ~~> > for ~~> > > him. ~~> > > > The lute album and the Police reunion would ~~> also ~~> > > both ~~> > > > make sense in that context... he's stalling. ~~> > :-) ~~> > > > ~~> > > > In the great 86/87 writer's block period, he ~~> of ~~> > > course ~~> > > > saved the rainforests, did a musical on ~~> Broadway ~~> > > and ~~> > > > attempted the *last* Police reunion ,so I ~~> > actually ~~> > > > still feel like something's possible now. ~~> > (Maybe ~~> > > a ~~> > > > police reunion on broadway to save the ~~> > > rainforests...? ~~> > > > Andy can tapdance, can't he?) ~~> > > > ~~> > > > Christopher ~~> > > > ~~> > > > PS--I agree with you that it will be a bitter ~~> > pill ~~> > > to ~~> > > > swallow if MESSAGE IN A BOX comes out with ~~> five ~~> > > new ~~> > > > tracks. I hope they will at least dig in the ~~> > > vaults ~~> > > > for various gems Stewart has mentioned over ~~> the ~~> > > years, ~~> > > > things like the "reggae" demo of Every Breath ~~> > You ~~> > > > Take. I want stuff that's never been ~~> released! ~~> > > > ~~> > > > ~~> > __________________________________________________ ~~> > > > Do You Yahoo!? ~~> > > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam ~~> > > protection around ~~> > > > http://mail.yahoo.com ~~> > > > ~~> > > > ~~> _______________________________________________ ~~> > > > Police mailing list ~~> > > > Police@mailman.xmission.com ~~> > > > ~~> > > ~~> > ~~> ~~http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/police ~~> > > > ~~> > > ~~> > > ~~> > ~~> > ~~> > __________________________________________________ ~~> > Do You Yahoo!? ~~> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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What happened to the commentaries the boys recorded a few years ago? I don't think they've been used - maybe for the new boxset? Pat
That recording was supposed to be part of the three disc box set due to be released a few years ago...but then they gave up the idea; for what I know it's not part of the new box set. Giovanni ----- Original Message ----- From: <patm@rollanet.org> To: <police@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 11:54 PM Subject: RE: [Police] questions, and boxed set thoughts
What happened to the commentaries the boys recorded a few years ago? I don't think they've been used - maybe for the new boxset?
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I really liked many of the b-sides from Mercury Falling, perhaps more than many of the songs from the album itself...specifically Desert Moon, The Pirates Bride, and Lullaby to an Anxious Child. Also, Twenty Five to Midnight is great and I guess it can be considered a b-side, at least for those of us in North America. Bruce in TO ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Simar" <casimar@yahoo.com> To: <police@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 3:34 PM Subject: Re: [Police] questions, and boxed set thoughts
In fact I think I'd agree with you agreeing with me... ten albums probably for me, too. I felt like the only person that *did* like Mercury Falling, but I was happy with that one (w/ 25 to Midnight on it).
Christopher
--- foxie <forfoxie@yahoo.com> wrote:
...I would agree with Chris on the "8 records being near perfect" assessment...in fact, I go even farther - I think his first 10 records (up to MERCURY FALLING) are near perfect. Also agreed that I would be just a jazzed to hear Sting's unreleased and b-sides as I would The Police...
Rich
--- Christopher Simar <casimar@yahoo.com> wrote:
Most songwriters have a shorter career than Sting, that's for sure, and the bulk of writing seems to occur when they're in their 20s. (Still, I do remember Sting saying after SOUL CAGES that he had "finally run out of Last Exit songs" to cannibalize and now he was in trouble...)
That said, I would rate "his" first eight released albums (Police + 3 solo) as near perfect. I love everything he wrote for those records. It's only after that when I start to say "hmmm" every once in a while, and don't love *every* song. But I love most. It's a pretty amazing catalog. I want his solo boxed set, too, with all the demos and lost b-sides. :-)
Christopher
--- Stingfan222@aol.com wrote:
On my way home last night I started pondering the writing method. I really like that new Fergilicious song and it got me thinking. You think with all the music in the world, we'd run out of new, catchy songs to listen to, but somehow, the wheels keep rolling. Thank goodness.
Was also cleaning up my ipod lists (rating them w/stars) and was awestruck by the percentage of Sting's songs that got 5 stars from me. I can see why one would have writers block, that's a boatload of great songs! Other artists that got 5 stars for a majority of their songs were Squeeze, Talking Heads, Joe Sumner, and Gavin DeGraw. My ratings, of course!
michelle
In a message dated 1/9/07 10:48:55 AM, casimar@yahoo.com writes:
Angeline,
I can't remember a specific source for the writer's block quote but it was *right* after he had started his BROKEN MUSIC tour. (I remember going "aha! that explains it".) It was literally just a quote box in a magazine or something. There was no context given, just that writing SACRED LOVE had been very hard and he hadn't been able to write song one since then, and that writing the book had also been very hard for him. The lute album and the Police reunion would also both make sense in that context... he's stalling. :-)
In the great 86/87 writer's block period, he of course saved the rainforests, did a musical on Broadway and attempted the *last* Police reunion ,so I actually still feel like something's possible now. (Maybe a police reunion on broadway to save the rainforests...? Andy can tapdance, can't he?)
Christopher
PS--I agree with you that it will be a bitter pill to swallow if MESSAGE IN A BOX comes out with five new tracks. I hope they will at least dig in the vaults for various gems Stewart has mentioned over the years, things like the "reggae" demo of Every Breath You Take. I want stuff that's never been released!
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On 10-01-2007 02:25 Tara and Bruce wrote:
I really liked many of the b-sides from Mercury Falling, perhaps more than many of the songs from the album itself I agree. When MF came out I was rather disappointed, and the concert that I attended was very uninspoiring (it was only the third or fourth on the tour, so they were not "played in"). Still, I must admit it has grown on me, and I quite like it now.
The Pirates Bride Ah - my favourite b-side! Beautifully haunting - I love it when he does that!
With regards to the possible reunion, I for one think it will happen - the question is just what "it" will be. Somehow I have the feeling that they might go all the way and make new material and a new album - the way I see it, this would be the only way Sting could justify going back after all his comments about how you should never try to re-create the past etc. Didn't he, at one point, say he would rather die than reform The Police? I seem to remember a heated debate on the list about that comment a few years back. Anyway, it is great to see so much activity here - just like in the old days. Seems we were all just lurking! Mikkel -- "At first just a rustle of canvas And the gentlest breath on my face But a galloping line of white horses Said that soon we were in for a race" Sting - The Wild Wild Sea www.mzh.dk
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Tara and Bruce