Nothing was ever charged on my FTP...100 % free. The thread is complete and over with it was ended last week. Let get over it and move on I have. RMStringer __________________________________________________ Warning: You are no longer who you were and tomorrow is now yesterday. In the event of an emergency, don't become alarmed........ Move quickly to the nearest exit. -----Original Message----- From: orb-admin@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:orb-admin@mailman.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Smiley Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 2:50 PM To: orb@mailman.xmission.com Subject: RE: [Orb] A "little" "request" don wrote:

I'd like to here Smiley's comments when he gets a chance.

you may regret that comment! ;-)

Several years ago, as a list we decided not to publicly offer "IN PRINT" ORB mp3s out of basic respect for the band.

indeed we did.

This was agreed upon by the list and to some extent the Orb itself by way of Smiley's connections.

indeed it was. the basic viewpoint was then - and still is, afaik - this: if it's out of print / deleted / live gig bootleg-type stuff, being shared for NO PROFIT = FINE (although the record companies may think otherwise, of course). if it's in-print / commercially available / being distributed FOR PROFIT = NOT FINE.

I think we all can appreciate the fact that you are being generous in letting the list members download the tracks you have collected.

that's true - as it is for all the other people on the list that provide ftp access (ant, moondog, steph, etc)... ...HOWEVER, lx and others involved with the orb are not "rich" - as most people assume they are. island sat on the last album for a couple of years, which didn't help - and was one of a number of factors involved in andy leaving the band...the need to make some actual money and pay a few bills. lx tends to make his money by dj'ing, as the orb have hardly been going "platinum" recently - especially when they were stuck with a record company that didn't seem to give a shit about them. so - when you're taking stuff that is still "in print" and is easily available (any argument about stuff being impossible to find from a community that uses the internet as regularly as this one is complete bollocks, IMHO)... ...you're depriving lx / andy / etc of their royalties and payments. it's as simple as that! here endeth the ranting. l8rs. --- Smiley __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Orb mailing list Orb@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/orb