I know I am going to get flammed by this, but I blame the recent decline in orb music quality by spending too long on tour with successful, but SHORT lived, wonders like the Chemical Brothers, etc. They have been given a false sense of the type of noise the public wants, well that is just my opinion. Opps did I say that. Flame away! cheers bill np: "Little fluffy dice (home of the Brave remix)" - personal orb mix