oh god.. yes hmm im sure someone else would have cleaned it up without me being there assuming they had even some mild form of musical ear... the LFC demo was in 3/4 and they didnt even know they had sampled up steve reich and some nilson or something break and steve was in 3/4 and the break was in 4/4 and they keyboard riff they laid down was in the wrong key the steve riff was shifting chords and the key riff was in the same key i'd say that needed cleaning up! ask greg if you dont believe me hes next door although i doubt he would come out for such mindless tedium... he always says i was the producer and i shoulda got a credit i couldnt give a fuck i hate it anyway __ kwis )) (( c[_] scuse the epenthesis ***************************** On 8 Dec 2004, at 19:16, Tim C wrote: