Well, I quite Orbsessions, although "Okie Dokie..." sounds a bit flat to me - nothing really grabs me (apart from, possibly, "Cool Harbour" - which was on one of the Kompakt 12"'s anyway), although that hasn't stopped me from ordering the Japanese release (with the extra track). Of all the recent releases, I would recommend System 7's new ambient album "Mirror System" - that is very mellow, ambient, but not dull (IMHO). Hopefully, the forthcoming MadOrb and Transit Kings (although Jimmy Cauty is no longer with them) will provide a much needed relief! With regards to other artists, The new Boards Of Canada album is very nice, and Ulrich Schnauss is reissuing his "Far Away Trains..." album in the US (with a bonus CD), so looking forward to that one too. -----Original Message----- On Behalf Of Alan Evil (lists) We're all thieves in the eyes of the record industry. We should be paying royalties to them each and every time we HEAR any part of a recording. As a matter of a fact, they would charge us royalties for singing in the goddamned shower if they could! "You were singing the chorus from 'Dancing Queen' while washing your gonads last week. That will be $.99, please." They would charge you directly every time you turn on the radio (you're stealing because you didn't PAY!!!) or hear a song in the grocery store if they could. After B&T I'm not even going to bother to "illegally download" anything new from the "Orb" until I hear directly from the mouths of you guys that whatever it is is worth spending money on. There is so much out there by other, smaller artists that is so far superior to B&T that if I'm going to give a percent to an artist, I'd rather it be them. I'll buy a new Amon Tobin (or any NinjaTune artist for that matter) because I'm pretty sure I'll like most if not all of it, but I'm not even going to waste my bandwidth on downloading a new "Orb" album unless it gets rave reviews. Why be dissappointed? I know I will be. If I do download a new "Orb" album and like it (hey, I liked everything up through Cydonia so I'm really not all that picky) then I'll go buy it. If I don't like it I'll delete it after a few goes. I guess in the case of a new "Orb" release the industry really doesn't want us to download it for free since it's going to suck and we won't buy it. Good albums that are downloaded sell more copies than normal. But the Industry doesn't want to be bothered with quality, they just want quantity. I'm going to use quotes around the name "Orb" until they put out something good. Until then I consider them to be imposters.