Dear Mike, Dear Kris, I support Amnesty, the International Otter Survival Fund (yes !), Survival, Greenpeace, etc... I read and saw everything that Michael Moore did. I subscribed to a french newspaper to know what's going on everywhere in this world (and I don't watch tv news). I vote. So don't tell me I don't care about what's outside my apartment. If the Orb list is only dedicated to : "oooooooooooh, Bush is bad" "eeeeeeeeeew, the world's in trouble" AND "how can I access to this ftp ?" "how can I burn my cdrs ?", well I will leave this room and don't bother you with my Orb related news and comments. You'll meet me at a World Politic mailing list, where I'll tell to the subscribers what I think about the Material Mantra remix. :) Take care, JCFromParis