Well, ofcourse i cannot blame artists for shifting their musical ability over time, i recognise that because i make music myself too. I can expect you get fed up with the thingyou have been doing for 10 years over and over. That said, i think that the music they used to make was ahaid of its time. It sounds realy blah blah, but look at it, in 89, 90, 91 they were the ones with NEW music, never heard before. Now they repeat what someone else allready published years before. Don't get me wrong, i now how bloody hard it is to come up with some new styles.. As for the live part, i believe the old live stuff was amazing. In those day's there was the inclusion of live bass, drums AND percussion. That was a huge difference. Offcourse they allways rely on there trusty multitrack player and mixing desk (and LX on the wheels) but live players do give that extra feel to it. I think they don't do that anymore for budget reasons.. R Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 10:44:16 +0100From: mariuschan@btopenworld.comTo: orb@mailman.xmission.comSubject: RE: [Orb] RE: New Orb albumit's nice that were having a meaningful conversation for a change! For me the essence of the Orb was always intelligent, defined - one might always say articulate - rhythms: eg. delta mk II, valley, plataeu, or like Molten Love, which is like a soukous track in space (actually, I think the Orb are best when there is that kind of African feel to the music)...the first five tracks on orblivion each give you something completely new...delta mk II subtle use of d'n'b, the wonky melodies and drill'n'bass of ubiquity, the poly-rythms of Asylum with that magic bass and clinical digitial sounds, Bedouin's kind of West African, irregular, shifting, bassline...all those tracks are completely unique stylistically...its clear that they haven't approached any project since with the same intensity, and I think the albums since have suffered from being bitty and facile, bikes/trikes being the dismall lowpoint...also I find all these orbmissions stuff a bit pointless, although i haven't heard 2 yet...i don't even mind the whole kompakt/berlin thing that much, even though okie sounds like it was thrown together in 2 weeks...another thing, does anyone else agree that they used to be much better live? amazing to think they used to be brave enough to play things like spanish catsles in space, where as now everything seems to just be 4/4 techno crap, with alex playing 2 hours of ibiza style dance music at the Koko gig last year...only high point of that evening, a magic version of Alles ist schon from Fritz which just shows what lx could produce if he really understood what is special about the orbTim C <timc_orb@comcast.net> wrote:
I seem to remember a lot of people slagging Orblivion when it >was new. It's not bad, but the songs are just two short. It >should have been a double with the same songs, just longer.>Forgot to mention - Orbscure Trax has several improved versions; would havebeen nice if the album had been more like that.>LX also told me that Youth "wants to make a "real" Orb album". Listen to "Apple Tree In My Backyard" and I think this is not a surprise!So another notch on the "big hope for the next album" scale!T_______________________________________________Orb mailing listOrb@mailman.xmission.comhttp://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/orbReport list abuse to list-abuse at studio-nibble.com
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