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Re: [Orb] where you from?
by sunny bather 25 Nov '02

25 Nov '02

I'm l i v i n in Seattle _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

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RE: [Orb] where you from?
by mtabolic＠ix.netcom.com 25 Nov '02

25 Nov '02

Redondo Beach, CA www.metabolicmusic.com > From: "daniel gilbride" > To: orb(a)mailman.xmission.com > Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 21:28:25 +0000 > Subject: [Orb] where you from? > Reply-To: orb(a)mailman.xmission.com > > So where are all of you from? > > I'm from New York. > > Just curious - > > Dan >

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RE: [Orb] Where from?
by Rob_King 25 Nov '02

25 Nov '02

Cocksville, USA or Cydonia or Centre of the Universe (with a huge evergrowing brain), or Arizona with their little fluffy clouds? (badda boom!) Seriously though: currently residing in Ottawa, Canada I didn't realize before how many Orb tunes have geographic references in them. Cheers, Rob

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Where from?
by John Wintemute 25 Nov '02

25 Nov '02

Thousand Oaks, California John Wintemute >> So where are all of you from? >> I'm from New York.

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system 7
by dave 25 Nov '02

25 Nov '02

sitting here reading the latest posts with system 7 in the background just made me realize we dont chat about them enough ! from time to time i get the need for the good old days dr livingstone i presume anyone? dave p.s. anyone who hasnt heard the groovetech broadcast with steve hillage must give it a try!

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all hail len!
by daniel gilbride 25 Nov '02

25 Nov '02

Thanks be to Len for tipping me off to Lemon Jelly! I live in the U.S. and they're not big here at all. Backwards people that we are! Does anyone have a US release date for the new oRB? _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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the orb
by niels bonnevie 25 Nov '02

25 Nov '02

somebody mentioned a orb room on soulseek earlier.. was it called 'The Orb' or just 'orb'? see you there.. :) bumblebee.. np playing some dreadzone.. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

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Listening Post
by sunny bather 25 Nov '02

25 Nov '02

music and computers I just saw an exhibition in Seattle called Listening Post and was so impressed that I wanted to spread the word here is what it was: About one hundred LED screens displaying pieces of thousands of conversations that were happening as we were reading them in chat rooms from people around the world. every time a new line was displayed a different sounding tone would emit from speakers surrounding the screens, creating a strange kind of ambient music. and the lyrics to this music were a computer voice reading parts of the conversations there were also crazy wave-like flowing effects that were created by the text moving across the hundred or so screens and other deranging other kinds of effects that you just have to see anyway the exhibit is moving to the Whitney Museum in New York, so I reccomend anyone near that area to go and check it out it's awesome here are a couple of articles about it http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/popfizz/134577668_fizz18.html http://cm.bell-labs.com/who/cocteau/papers/pdf/icad2002.pdf peace _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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Single pricing.
by Alan Evil 25 Nov '02

25 Nov '02

A few years back Tower Records adopted an almost zero profit price point for cd singles to help push the format. I think they were "making" about ten or fifteen cents over wholesale. This was, of course, predicated by an actual price reduction from the record companies so they really were able to make a little bit on them. Mostly they considered it a way to help artists on the charts and pull customers into the store. 45rpm singles were similarly priced back in the day. Someone somewhere is still making some cash on these things. Once you get over 5000 copies a fully wrapped cd with a nice booklet costs about a dollar to produce. I can betcha the artists are getting less than ten cents per single... I wonder who's getting the money. I was thinking about buying a new copy of Chill Out the other day and found a copy... for $14.99!!! It's criminal. I bet in real dollars artists are getting less money per cd than they were getting for lps at the end of their life. Remember those days? A brand new release was full price of about $10. Now since 1991 or so I really don't think the value of the dollar has dropped by half yet a new release is $20. That's insane. Especially when you consider how much cheaper it is to press a cd is than an lp. In the event that any of you get offered a recording contract, get a good lawyer. Don't sign ANYTHING until you've spent hours pouring over it with a good entertainment lawyer. This is especially true of major labels but even a lot of the little guys are as bad are worse. One item that often appears even now is a "new media royalty reduction"... for cds! This is often more than a 15% reduction in the royalties paid to artists, even though more likely than not cd is the ONLY format their album will be released on. There is also a zero royalties clause for samplers. Rounder records is notorious for their use of this clause. They sell tens of thousands of samplers at super cheap rates and none of the artists make a penny. Admittedly the exposure is good and the money allows the company to expand but I think the artists would be better served if their cds were priced lower and the compilations were priced a little higher and they got paid for all of it. Rounder doesn't produce any electronic music so I'm getting way offbase here. Most electronic labels are started with compilations the songs for which they pay standard mechanical royalties so artists do make some money. Your favorite windbag, Alan Evil p.s. I'd like to apologize to both of you that asked about the lack of live shows this weekend. I've been remastering some material from the 80's (not mine but still a huge project) and fighting with the internet in trying to get a mailing list up and running and such. I promise I'll do a new show this weekend. I'm leaving to work now but I've got the ShoutCast thing running if you'd like to hear stuff from the last three months, over six hours of live mixes: www.ifpr.homestead.com/ifprradio.html Institute for Psychic Reform Change your Mind www.psychicreform.com

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Starecase
by bytesizenun＠netscape.net 25 Nov '02

25 Nov '02

If I remember correctly, the Starecase Mix was an online only 'release' for some time. I suppose they got permission to release it on the DMC release a short while later. http://arizona.rave.victoria.bc.ca/starecase.html ------------------------------------ m a r t Â l e p p i k Â - Â floor115 ------------------------------------ __________________________________________________________________ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

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