Hi Dale: Yes You need some way to lead the jib sheet to the winch, otherwise due to the natural angle it assumes to the winch it will not stay on I found this out the hard way the first time I sailed my "new" "76 Montgomery. If your M17 is of the older type as mine is you have the aluminum toe rail with holes in it, and that makes it simple. I bought two small blocks at west Marine ($20.00 ea) & clipped one port & one starboaard on the toe rail near the Jib winch. The nice thing about this is you can play with the exact location to optimize the lead. This is one of the beautiful features of the older Monty's - that perforated toe rail gives you a lot of places to "hook" things on. If you have one of the newer boats with a teak toe rail you will need to fasten a block thru the side deck. You have the option of making it a fixed location (simpler & cheaper) or putting it on a track getting some adjustment, I prefer the adjustable option cause you can adjust the angle of the jib.. Locate the blockon the side deck making sure the jib line is led square to the winch and not at a angle from above. Be sure to follow the procedure of drilling the holes oversize a little, scraping a little of the wood core out, plugging the bottom with tape and filling the hole & cavity with epoxy,. and then re-drilling the hole to proper size . This will prevent water from seeping into the core and causing rot. Good luck Let me know how you make out. Wayne M17 "Intrepid" ----- Original Message ----- From: NummiJ@aol.com To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 2:17 PM Subject: M_Boats: Blocks I picked up a M-17 a year ago and now I want to sail it. It looks like I should have some blockes to run the jib sheets through, do I? Dale H Nummi ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats