Scott, Thank you for your reply to my inquirey, I will call Bob Monday and see if he will sell me the stern rail and mast crutch directly but I may find that I can have Svendsen's Metal Works in Alameda build both of them and save the shipping. I live over by Santa Rosa CA. and get into Alamenda quite frequently. Are we neighbors of sorts? and you said we, is there a lot of M-15 and M-17 owners here in the Bay area? Thanks again for all your help. Hope to meet you one of these days. Sincerely, David Barnes (M-15 owner, boat has no name, will have one soon)

From: Wilsometer@aol.com Reply-To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: M-15, Help locating correct replacement parts by new owner Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:59:56 EDT

In a message dated 6/29/02 5:05:50 PM, no6m@hotmail.com writes:

<< Help!! I just bought a nice M-15 but the Mast crutch that mounts on the transom while trailering and the porta-potti could not be found by the seller. I would like to find original or correct after market replacements. Also looking for any light air headsail and/or spinnaker for the M-15. Used is OK but not worn out. If you have, or know of any leads, I would greatly appreciate your help in this matter. Oh! and does anyone know a source for the original M-15 stern rail? Thanks, David no6m@hotmail.com >>

Hi David, Here is some info that may prove helpful:

Mast Crutch: The factory supplied crutch was a stainless tube with two stainless pintles welded on (plug into gudgeons on transom) and with a V-shaped stainless piece welded on top and covered with heater hose to reduce abrasion. You might want to check with Bob Eeg (current builder of the M-boats) to see what he is supplying now.

Porta-Potti: Thetford 135 will fit later model M15's without modification. Older models might require some modification of the head (see my earlier posting re same).

Light air sails: Owners on this list have tried a variety of light air strategies (large Genoas, drifters, assymetrical/cruising chutes, poled spinnakers). My experience (on the M15) has been limited to a smallish assymetrical/'gennaker' type cruising chute. It worked OK, but I found its utility to be somewhat limited on anything below a broad reach as the main would blanket it. On a dead downwind run, it could be poled out for wing and wing with decent results, but we usually ended up dropping the main and sailing under the chute alone. This begged the question as to which was more efficient--main and working jib, or chute alone. I am inclined to try a bigger chute and see what happens. I think a poled spinnaker would be great fun as well as more efficient (due to the ability to square off), but I decided to forego this in the interest of simplicity.

I would be very careful about using any kind of masthead chute on the M15. The fractional backstay-less rig does not, to me, seem up to the task without some kind of running backstays, and even then, I would be very cautious.

M15 Stern Rail: To my knowledge, there was no stern rail offered as original equipment on the Jerry Montgomery built M15's. That said, a number of us have added them. A few years ago, a group of us had Svendsen's Metal Works in Alameda, CA make them using a friend's custom version as a pattern. I believe that Bob Eeg has supplied them on the new M15's. You might want to check with him.

Good luck! Scott Grometer M15 #478 'bebe'

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