Is there any reason why this shouldn't work on a M17? The chainplate are on the side of the cabintop, but I would assume that the stresses would be spread out pretty equally. I have always used slings and chainfalls to hoist my boats, but if the chainplates would hold the load it would make the job many times simpler. What kind of attachment to the plates do you use? S hooks? I'm intrigued by the idea of lifting Osprey II more easily than my current method, which works but causes some gnashing of teeth when I'm trying to locate the straps.
[Original Message] From: Stan Winarski <winarski@home.com> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Date: 12/28/01 12:46:38 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: OK, a couple more questions...
The Montgomery will hang very nicely suspended by the front and side chain plates and the stern traveler. I hang mine in my garage (eye hooks deeply inserted into overhead joists) by raising the front of the trailer to hook the bow then using come-alongs on the sides tying off a stern line as the stern rises.
Once raised lash safety timbers (two to a side) and remove the trailer. I've used this method three times to paint the hull and once to repair the swing keel. I also position a very substantial block an inch or two under the keel so that if anything ever did give way, it wouldn't have more than a few inches to drop.
Be careful lowering and raising the centerboard, it will drop like a very heavy rock.
Stan M15, #177 Carol II
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A pretty common standard for cleats is that one should be able to lift the boat by the bow and two stern cleats without breaking or pulling off the cleats (or bending the boat). Has anyone tried it with their M15 or M17? David Fann On Friday, December 28, 2001, at 01:59 PM, Thomas Howe wrote:
Is there any reason why this shouldn't work on a M17? The chainplate are on the side of the cabintop, but I would assume that the stresses would be spread out pretty equally. I have always used slings and chainfalls to hoist my boats, but if the chainplates would hold the load it would make the job many times simpler. What kind of attachment to the plates do you use? S hooks? I'm intrigued by the idea of lifting Osprey II more easily than my current method, which works but causes some gnashing of teeth when I'm trying to locate the straps.
David, Some of the local launching sites have hoists and I have used the bow and stern cleats as lift points on my M15 on several occasions while working on the centerboard. I have always removed everything from the boat and used lines under the hull as safety lines. All of the weight has been on the cleats and there are no stress signs from several lifts. Doug "Seas the Day" M15 #310 --- David Fann <dafann@ufl.edu> wrote:
A pretty common standard for cleats is that one should be able to lift the boat by the bow and two stern cleats without breaking or pulling off the cleats (or bending the boat). Has anyone tried it with their M15 or M17?
David Fann
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The M15 weighs 750# right out of the shower - that's (at best - when everything is equal) 150# at each point of suspension but it can and does go a lot higher on a single point if she swings out of balance. I've got a one car garage and little weight on the floor above it so the joists can handle that. You might do as I did the first time, lifted her a few inches above the trailer and slept on in (not in it!). The next morning she was still handing and there were no stress marks at any of the suspension points so I took her all the way up. The first time I ever had her raised at a boat yard, they used slings, did not secure them properly, and I almost lost her. That's when I decided I could do as well if not better on my own. Stan m-15, #177, Carol II
I'd be reluctant to use S hooks - I use shackles - two to a side - and, yes, I have lifted using the two stern cleats on the M-15 but I've always used the winch point on the bow chain plate rather than the bow cleat. Stan
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