Hi Bill and all... I'm a vet of the '60's myself. It's not one of my fondest memories, so I let it go. This is a Sailing Forum....List...whatever. Let messages be to that Happy Calling. For those who wish to rail at Bush, may I suggest the Compuserve Democratic Forum. It's now open to all on the web. Happy Sailing (at least for me) Harvey/ Ga M-17 Stargazer #294