Greetings! For the first time, I was unable to coax my centerboard down during a recent gentle sail. I hate the thought of having to have the boat attended to at a 'full-price' marina, so I'm hoping that some Monty sailors will have discovered ways to coax the CB down/ up without having to resort to major surgery. The boat is still relatively new to me, so I learn something new every time out. Thanks in advance for any advice you can offer. Steve on Whidbey 1981 M-15 #163
Hi Steve, The CB on Margarita (renamed yet?) sticks and is coaxed down with a mallet (hammer) and 1/4" diameter rod through the CB Pennant / cockpit drain hole. Take care to line up the rod to the center of the board before you tap it, otherwise the rod may slip between the board and CB trunk (hard to pull back out). Note that I wrote "tap it" to lower the CB. This is not to be confused with whack it, which is ultimately more destructive. Let me add, that's the way Margarita (prior owner David Wood) has lowered her CB in the past. If there is a better way, please chime in. It is written, M boats sail very well with the CB up and, I'm sure you would agree with that sentiment. Well, let me say, you'll be very impressed with Margarita with her CB down. She is fast and points exceptionally high. I know they are all supposed to be the same. But, I believe she has a spirited personality. You bought a great one. Bill <http://www.MSOGPhotoSite.com> On 8/23/08, steve pearse <sspearse@whidbey.com> wrote:
Greetings! For the first time, I was unable to coax my centerboard down during a recent gentle sail. I hate the thought of having to have the boat attended to at a 'full-price' marina, so I'm hoping that some Monty sailors will have discovered ways to coax the CB down/ up without having to resort to major surgery. The boat is still relatively new to me, so I learn something new every time out. Thanks in advance for any advice you can offer.
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Bill— Thanks much for the advice; I didn't realize you were the previous owner of my as-yet-unrenamed M-15. As to the steel rod idea, David did leave it with and explain its use to me. When I've tapped it down the hole previously, I simply thumped the rod handle with the heel of my hand. This past Saturday when that technique didn't work, I decided not to attempt stronger pressure/whacking. I'll give my rubber mallet a try next time out. In the meantime, I'll be crawling under the trailer and checking for any debris. And you are quite right…she is an exceptional craft, going to wind beautifully @ approximately 10 knots of wind. And as a shoal keel sailor without benefit of the CB, she still resists going to leeward quite well. I look forward to continue to learn every time I take her out. I'll let you know how it goes with that pesky CB! Thanks again. —Steve On Aug 23, 2008, at 10:27 PM, Bill Lamica wrote:
Hi Steve,
The CB on Margarita (renamed yet?) sticks and is coaxed down with a mallet (hammer) and 1/4" diameter rod through the CB Pennant / cockpit drain hole. Take care to line up the rod to the center of the board before you tap it, otherwise the rod may slip between the board and CB trunk (hard to pull back out). Note that I wrote "tap it" to lower the CB. This is not to be confused with whack it, which is ultimately more destructive.
Let me add, that's the way Margarita (prior owner David Wood) has lowered her CB in the past. If there is a better way, please chime in.
It is written, M boats sail very well with the CB up and, I'm sure you would agree with that sentiment.
Well, let me say, you'll be very impressed with Margarita with her CB down. She is fast and points exceptionally high. I know they are all supposed to be the same. But, I believe she has a spirited personality. You bought a great one.
Bill <http://www.MSOGPhotoSite.com>
On 8/23/08, steve pearse <sspearse@whidbey.com> wrote:
Greetings! For the first time, I was unable to coax my centerboard down during a recent gentle sail. I hate the thought of having to have the boat attended to at a 'full-price' marina, so I'm hoping that some Monty sailors will have discovered ways to coax the CB down/ up without having to resort to major surgery. The boat is still relatively new to me, so I learn something new every time out. Thanks in advance for any advice you can offer.
Steve on Whidbey 1981 M-15 #163
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You should use a steady increasing pressure with the rod. Use a block on top of the rod so you do not push it through your hand. It is not unusual to have a piece of sand/gravel/bing cherry pit or other hard things role down the CB penant hole from the cockpit. If the CB is up when this happens they can jamb the CB as well. In this case they roll down and continue to jamb as the board lowers. You may have to continue the pressure for more than a couple of inches of movement. Thanks Doug Kelch M15 #310 "Seas the Day" --- On Sun, 8/24/08, steve pearse <sspearse@whidbey.com> wrote: From: steve pearse <sspearse@whidbey.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: 'stuck' M-15 centerboard… To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Cc: "David W. Wood" <dwood@dwoodworks.com> Date: Sunday, August 24, 2008, 2:03 PM Bill— Thanks much for the advice; I didn't realize you were the previous owner of my as-yet-unrenamed M-15. As to the steel rod idea, David did leave it with and explain its use to me. When I've tapped it down the hole previously, I simply thumped the rod handle with the heel of my hand. This past Saturday when that technique didn't work, I decided not to attempt stronger pressure/whacking. I'll give my rubber mallet a try next time out. In the meantime, I'll be crawling under the trailer and checking for any debris. And you are quite right…she is an exceptional craft, going to wind beautifully @ approximately 10 knots of wind. And as a shoal keel sailor without benefit of the CB, she still resists going to leeward quite well. I look forward to continue to learn every time I take her out. I'll let you know how it goes with that pesky CB! Thanks again. —Steve On Aug 23, 2008, at 10:27 PM, Bill Lamica wrote:
Hi Steve,
The CB on Margarita (renamed yet?) sticks and is coaxed down with a mallet (hammer) and 1/4" diameter rod through the CB Pennant / cockpit drain hole. Take care to line up the rod to the center of the board before you tap it, otherwise the rod may slip between the board and CB trunk (hard to pull back out). Note that I wrote "tap it" to lower the CB. This is not to be confused with whack it, which is ultimately more destructive.
Let me add, that's the way Margarita (prior owner David Wood) has lowered her CB in the past. If there is a better way, please chime in.
It is written, M boats sail very well with the CB up and, I'm sure you would agree with that sentiment.
Well, let me say, you'll be very impressed with Margarita with her CB down. She is fast and points exceptionally high. I know they are all supposed to be the same. But, I believe she has a spirited personality. You bought a great one.
Bill <http://www.MSOGPhotoSite.com>
On 8/23/08, steve pearse <sspearse@whidbey.com> wrote:
Greetings! For the first time, I was unable to coax my centerboard down during a recent gentle sail. I hate the thought of having to have the boat attended to at a 'full-price' marina, so I'm
hoping
that some Monty sailors will have discovered ways to coax the CB down/ up without having to resort to major surgery. The boat is still relatively new to me, so I learn something new every time out. Thanks in advance for any advice you can offer.
Steve on Whidbey 1981 M-15 #163
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Ah-ha! I obviously had not considered that possibility. And as for the steadily increasing pressure, that makes sense as well. Thank you! —Steve On Aug 24, 2008, at 11:14 AM, Doug Kelch wrote:
You should use a steady increasing pressure with the rod. Use a block on top of the rod so you do not push it through your hand.
It is not unusual to have a piece of sand/gravel/bing cherry pit or other hard things role down the CB penant hole from the cockpit. If the CB is up when this happens they can jamb the CB as well. In this case they roll down and continue to jamb as the board lowers. You may have to continue the pressure for more than a couple of inches of movement.
Thanks
Doug Kelch M15 #310 "Seas the Day"
--- On Sun, 8/24/08, steve pearse <sspearse@whidbey.com> wrote: From: steve pearse <sspearse@whidbey.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: 'stuck' M-15 centerboard… To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Cc: "David W. Wood" <dwood@dwoodworks.com> Date: Sunday, August 24, 2008, 2:03 PM
Bill— Thanks much for the advice; I didn't realize you were the previous owner of my as-yet-unrenamed M-15. As to the steel rod idea, David did leave it with and explain its use to me. When I've tapped it down the hole previously, I simply thumped the rod handle with the heel of my hand. This past Saturday when that technique didn't work, I decided not to attempt stronger pressure/whacking. I'll give my rubber mallet a try next time out. In the meantime, I'll be crawling under the trailer and checking for any debris.
And you are quite right…she is an exceptional craft, going to wind beautifully @ approximately 10 knots of wind. And as a shoal keel sailor without benefit of the CB, she still resists going to leeward quite well. I look forward to continue to learn every time I take her out. I'll let you know how it goes with that pesky CB!
Thanks again.
—Steve
On Aug 23, 2008, at 10:27 PM, Bill Lamica wrote:
Hi Steve,
The CB on Margarita (renamed yet?) sticks and is coaxed down with a mallet (hammer) and 1/4" diameter rod through the CB Pennant / cockpit drain hole. Take care to line up the rod to the center of the board before you tap it, otherwise the rod may slip between the board and CB trunk (hard to pull back out). Note that I wrote "tap it" to lower the CB. This is not to be confused with whack it, which is ultimately more destructive.
Let me add, that's the way Margarita (prior owner David Wood) has lowered her CB in the past. If there is a better way, please chime in.
It is written, M boats sail very well with the CB up and, I'm sure you would agree with that sentiment.
Well, let me say, you'll be very impressed with Margarita with her CB down. She is fast and points exceptionally high. I know they are all supposed to be the same. But, I believe she has a spirited personality. You bought a great one.
Bill <http://www.MSOGPhotoSite.com>
On 8/23/08, steve pearse <sspearse@whidbey.com> wrote:
Greetings! For the first time, I was unable to coax my centerboard down during a recent gentle sail. I hate the thought of having to have the boat attended to at a 'full-price' marina, so I'm
hoping
that some Monty sailors will have discovered ways to coax the CB down/ up without having to resort to major surgery. The boat is still relatively new to me, so I learn something new every time out. Thanks in advance for any advice you can offer.
Steve on Whidbey 1981 M-15 #163
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Sorry, I did not mean to infer I was a past owner of Margarita. David Wood (past owner) and I sailed at Howard Prairie Reservoir, near his home on several occasions. David and Margarita were a pleasure to sail with. He took a college level class in design engineering of sailing craft and understands how to get every last knot out of a craft. I was "just" the photographer. Bill On 8/24/08, steve pearse <sspearse@whidbey.com> wrote:
Bill— Thanks much for the advice; I didn't realize you were the previous owner of my as-yet-unrenamed M-15. As to the steel rod idea, David did leave it with and explain its use to me. When I've tapped it down the hole previously, I simply thumped the rod handle with the heel of my hand. This past Saturday when that technique didn't work, I decided not to attempt stronger pressure/whacking. I'll give my rubber mallet a try next time out. In the meantime, I'll be crawling under the trailer and checking for any debris.
And you are quite right…she is an exceptional craft, going to wind beautifully @ approximately 10 knots of wind. And as a shoal keel sailor without benefit of the CB, she still resists going to leeward quite well. I look forward to continue to learn every time I take her out. I'll let you know how it goes with that pesky CB!
Thanks again.
—Steve
On Aug 23, 2008, at 10:27 PM, Bill Lamica wrote:
Hi Steve,
The CB on Margarita (renamed yet?) sticks and is coaxed down with a mallet (hammer) and 1/4" diameter rod through the CB Pennant / cockpit drain hole. Take care to line up the rod to the center of the board before you tap it, otherwise the rod may slip between the board and CB trunk (hard to pull back out). Note that I wrote "tap it" to lower the CB. This is not to be confused with whack it, which is ultimately more destructive.
Let me add, that's the way Margarita (prior owner David Wood) has lowered her CB in the past. If there is a better way, please chime in.
It is written, M boats sail very well with the CB up and, I'm sure you would agree with that sentiment.
Well, let me say, you'll be very impressed with Margarita with her CB down. She is fast and points exceptionally high. I know they are all supposed to be the same. But, I believe she has a spirited personality. You bought a great one.
Bill <http://www.MSOGPhotoSite.com>
On 8/23/08, steve pearse <sspearse@whidbey.com> wrote:
Greetings! For the first time, I was unable to coax my centerboard down during a recent gentle sail. I hate the thought of having to have the boat attended to at a 'full-price' marina, so I'm hoping that some Monty sailors will have discovered ways to coax the CB down/ up without having to resort to major surgery. The boat is still relatively new to me, so I learn something new every time out. Thanks in advance for any advice you can offer.
Steve on Whidbey 1981 M-15 #163
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Steve, I have owned several centerboard boats over the past half century I have been sailing and I have had problems with all of them jamming at one time or another. I may still have my "unjammig tool" in the garage. It consists of a 3/16" rod with a threaded file handle on the end. A firm push through the pennant hole would free the board. I found that the most common cause of CB jamming is debris (mud, gravel or shell) getting in the slot from beaching. I just corrected this problem on my Boston Whaler harpoon by lowering the CB and cleaning out the slot with a pressure washer and stick and revoving a few imbedded pebbles from the board. With my old Slipper 17 (with a similar keel/cb), I would "launch" the boat onto the grass using stacks of garden soil bags under the bilges, rig the mast, remove the bags on one side and roll the boat onto it's side with the main halliyard. This would give access to the centerboard and slot for cleaning. Afterwards, I would pull it back upright, put the bags back under the bilges, wet the bottom and trailer bunks with the garden hose and a bit of dish soap and winch the boat back onto the trailer. I don't see any reason why it wouldn't work as well with a M15 or even maybe a M17. I don't have to worry about this probelm with my present M17, Griselda. She is a fixed keel. The 39" draft sometimes is a problem but, at least, the centerboard doesn't stick. Ron M17 #14 Griselda
To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> From: sspearse@whidbey.com> Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 21:31:58 -0700> Subject: M_Boats: 'stuck' M-15 centerboard…> > Greetings! For the first time, I was unable to coax my centerboard > down during a recent gentle sail. I hate the thought of having to > have the boat attended to at a 'full-price' marina, so I'm hoping > that some Monty sailors will have discovered ways to coax the CB down/ > up without having to resort to major surgery. The boat is still > relatively new to me, so I learn something new every time out. Thanks > in advance for any advice you can offer.> > Steve on Whidbey> 1981 M-15 #163> > > > > > _______________________________________________> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
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Hi Steve; One method I used was to grind one end of a hack saw blade to fit a reciprocating saw, then sawed between the keel and CB. This worked to open up enough space to get the board to come down. I also smoothed the teeth on the keel side to only remove material from the CB. I was planning to replace the CB so I didn't think I would do major damage. A couple of years ago when the CB was stuck and I took it to a boat shop, they ground quite a bit off the side of the CB to get it to work so I think there must be a fair amount of glass over the steel-shot. Another thought. Does your boat have a hole drilled through the two wood plates on the deck. This lets you push a dowel against the CB. This trick worked for me for several years. PS Should you want another steel-shot CB to work on, I have one. Its in good shape, no splits no cracks. Its just a little fat is all. Don M15-248 ----- Original Message ----- From: "steve pearse" <sspearse@whidbey.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 9:31 PM Subject: M_Boats: 'stuck' M-15 centerboard.
Greetings! For the first time, I was unable to coax my centerboard down during a recent gentle sail. I hate the thought of having to have the boat attended to at a 'full-price' marina, so I'm hoping that some Monty sailors will have discovered ways to coax the CB down/ up without having to resort to major surgery. The boat is still relatively new to me, so I learn something new every time out. Thanks in advance for any advice you can offer.
Steve on Whidbey 1981 M-15 #163
Don, thanks so much for taking the time to respond in this thorough way. I've tried the steel rod technique, but may need to apply a bit more force, as per Bill's suggestion. Your notion of doing a bit of strategic, careful hacksawing makes sense as well. Thank you! —Steve On Aug 24, 2008, at 10:05 AM, Don Haas wrote:
Hi Steve; One method I used was to grind one end of a hack saw blade to fit a reciprocating saw, then sawed between the keel and CB. This worked to open up enough space to get the board to come down. I also smoothed the teeth on the keel side to only remove material from the CB. I was planning to replace the CB so I didn't think I would do major damage. A couple of years ago when the CB was stuck and I took it to a boat shop, they ground quite a bit off the side of the CB to get it to work so I think there must be a fair amount of glass over the steel-shot.
Another thought. Does your boat have a hole drilled through the two wood plates on the deck. This lets you push a dowel against the CB. This trick worked for me for several years.
PS Should you want another steel-shot CB to work on, I have one. Its in good shape, no splits no cracks. Its just a little fat is all.
Don M15-248
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Greetings! For the first time, I was unable to coax my centerboard down during a recent gentle sail. I hate the thought of having to have the boat attended to at a 'full-price' marina, so I'm hoping that some Monty sailors will have discovered ways to coax the CB down/ up without having to resort to major surgery. The boat is still relatively new to me, so I learn something new every time out. Thanks in advance for any advice you can offer.
Steve on Whidbey 1981 M-15 #163
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Steve I have #162 and here is what I did. You need to be sure the well is not swelling. If it is it will just clamp you new lead CB http://picasaweb.google.com/jascopacific/M15KeelRepair You can email me at jimsadler@jascopacific.com Capt'n James Albert Sadler Skipper M-15 Pelican On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 9:31 PM, steve pearse <sspearse@whidbey.com> wrote:
Greetings! For the first time, I was unable to coax my centerboard down during a recent gentle sail. I hate the thought of having to have the boat attended to at a 'full-price' marina, so I'm hoping that some Monty sailors will have discovered ways to coax the CB down/ up without having to resort to major surgery. The boat is still relatively new to me, so I learn something new every time out. Thanks in advance for any advice you can offer.
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Steve, I have #159, and frequently have a stuck board. Too lazy to replace it at the present, but I will replace it. One of my tricks if I am around a sandy beach, or at least one with no rocks is to careen the boat over on her side with the topping lift, then walk around to the keel and use a leatherman to pull the CB out. It takes two people to do this with any form of ease, or you need to be real fast if you let go of the topping lift. Regards, Steve who used to be on Whidbey way back when Hector was still a pup. On Aug 25, 2008, at 1:02 PM, jim sadler wrote:
Steve
I have #162 and here is what I did. You need to be sure the well is not swelling. If it is it will just clamp you new lead CB
http://picasaweb.google.com/jascopacific/M15KeelRepair
You can email me at jimsadler@jascopacific.com
Capt'n James Albert Sadler Skipper M-15 Pelican
On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 9:31 PM, steve pearse <sspearse@whidbey.com> wrote:
Greetings! For the first time, I was unable to coax my centerboard down during a recent gentle sail. I hate the thought of having to have the boat attended to at a 'full-price' marina, so I'm hoping that some Monty sailors will have discovered ways to coax the CB down/ up without having to resort to major surgery. The boat is still relatively new to me, so I learn something new every time out. Thanks in advance for any advice you can offer.
Steve on Whidbey 1981 M-15 #163
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Steve of #159… You are clearly more capable and daring than I! I've started by slithering under the trailer and carefully filing the CB on each side, using an old, quite flexible miter saw blade. This after I checked for any obvious obstructions. After I've managed to run the blade along the both sides of the board's length, I plan to take her out on a calm day and give the board a firm shove or two using the metal rod technique. Thanks much for responding to my question; I'll let you know how it goes! Steve of #163 On Aug 25, 2008, at 2:12 PM, Steve and Diana Parsons wrote:
Steve,
I have #159, and frequently have a stuck board. Too lazy to replace it at the present, but I will replace it.
One of my tricks if I am around a sandy beach, or at least one with no rocks is to careen the boat over on her side with the topping lift, then walk around to the keel and use a leatherman to pull the CB out. It takes two people to do this with any form of ease, or you need to be real fast if you let go of the topping lift.
Regards,
Steve who used to be on Whidbey way back when Hector was still a pup.
On Aug 25, 2008, at 1:02 PM, jim sadler wrote:
Steve
I have #162 and here is what I did. You need to be sure the well is not swelling. If it is it will just clamp you new lead CB
http://picasaweb.google.com/jascopacific/M15KeelRepair
You can email me at jimsadler@jascopacific.com
Capt'n James Albert Sadler Skipper M-15 Pelican
On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 9:31 PM, steve pearse <sspearse@whidbey.com> wrote:
Greetings! For the first time, I was unable to coax my centerboard down during a recent gentle sail. I hate the thought of having to have the boat attended to at a 'full-price' marina, so I'm hoping that some Monty sailors will have discovered ways to coax the CB down/ up without having to resort to major surgery. The boat is still relatively new to me, so I learn something new every time out. Thanks in advance for any advice you can offer.
Steve on Whidbey 1981 M-15 #163
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Nice crane can I get a little more info on that?? I need to work on Pilgrim's bottom. I have a nice high ceiling in my shop and your bridge crane looks like just the ticket. At your service Larry Pegg #55 M-17 208 249 0538 -----Original Message----- From: jim sadler <jimsadler@jascopacific.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 2:02 pm Subject: Re: M_Boats: 'stuck' M-15 centerboard… Steve I have #162 and here is what I did. You need to be sure the well is not swelling. If it is it will just clamp you new lead CB http://picasaweb.google.com/jascopacific/M15KeelRepair You can email me at jimsadler@jascopacific.com Capt'n James Albert Sadler Skipper M-15 Pelican On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 9:31 PM, steve pearse <sspearse@whidbey.com> wrote:
Greetings! For the first time, I was unable to coax my centerboard down during a recent gentle sail. I hate the thought of having to have the boat attended to at a 'full-price' marina, so I'm hoping that some Monty sailors will have discovered ways to coax the CB down/ up without having to resort to major surgery. The boat is still relatively new to me, so I learn something new every time out. Thanks in advance for any advice you can offer.
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Larry Not sure if you mean my crane. If so I just used some scaffolding frames and put a wood beam across. I used ratchet cable pullers to lift the boat by the chain plates. Another way to do this without a crane is to jack up the boat and trailer to the height you want, support the boat in a cradle, and then drop the trailer down. I can't remember but someone on the list had some nice pics on this procedure. Glad to help you skipper anyway I can Captain James A Sadler skipper sailing vessel Pelican M-15 On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 2:32 PM, <larrypegg@aol.com> wrote:
Nice crane can I get a little more info on that?? I need to work on Pilgrim's bottom. I have a nice high ceiling in my shop and your bridge crane looks like just the ticket.
At your service
Larry Pegg #55 M-17 208 249 0538
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Steve
I have #162 and here is what I did. You need to be sure the well is not swelling. If it is it will just clamp you new lead CB
http://picasaweb.google.com/jascopacific/M15KeelRepair
You can email me at jimsadler@jascopacific.com
Capt'n James Albert Sadler Skipper M-15 Pelican
On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 9:31 PM, steve pearse <sspearse@whidbey.com> wrote:
Greetings! For the first time, I was unable to coax my centerboard down during a recent gentle sail. I hate the thought of having to have the boat attended to at a 'full-price' marina, so I'm hoping that some Monty sailors will have discovered ways to coax the CB down/ up without having to resort to major surgery. The boat is still relatively new to me, so I learn something new every time out. Thanks in advance for any advice you can offer.
Steve on Whidbey 1981 M-15 #163
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