To the editor(s) of the MSOG and Monty Picture sites, Sorry, I can't remember for sure who the editors of the sites are. I don't want to come off as a whiner, but you have a wonderful pair of sites here ..... for anyone that uses MS Internet Explorer. For the rest of us who would rather stay away from Bill's (Microsoft) products, the sites are almost unreadable in spots, with over running text, text over pictures, etc. Would it be possible to edit this great resources with a program that would use code recognizable by all internet browsers so that anyone could take advantage of your considerable efforts?? Mozilla Composer (it's free) comes to mind as one possibility. I'm pretty much a newbie at website building, but I was able to put this site together using Mozilla Composer. It's not as nice as your stuff, but then you're surely better web designers than I am. http://www.signsbyrik.net/rik/our_flicka.html BTW: I hope to go sailing someday with ANYBODY who has a camera, so I can get some pics of our M-15, "Just Little" up on my site too. Rik Sandberg M-15 #185, "Just Little"