If I'm to order new main and jib for my Monty 15 (which I'm likely to do soon): What size range (100%, 110%, 120%, etc) jib makes the most sense. I believe the boat came standard with a 100%. I can only afford one jib at present. My sailing will be primarily near shore Great Lakes (Lake Huron, Tawas Bay, North Channel, Georgian Bay) and smaller inland lakes. I'm guessing my winds typically to be 5-18 MPH. My main will have two reefs. Thanks for any and all advice. *Jeff+* Molōn labe!
the jib currently made by Elliot/Pattison Sailmakers for the M15 is 128%. get a jib the size that E/P is now making. for your quoted wind speeds, as you stated, a second reef point is nice insurance. in my opinion (IMO) you should tuck in a second reef when the wind goes about 17/18 knots on the M15. once the wind gets above the low-ish 20s you need a smaller jib. :: Dave Scobie :: former M15 owner - www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com :: Sage Marine - www.sagemarine.com --- On Thu, 3/29/12, Jeffrey Johnston <frjeff@gmail.com> wrote:
If I'm to order new main and jib for my Monty 15 (which I'm likely to do soon):
What size range (100%, 110%, 120%, etc) jib makes the most sense. I believe the boat came standard with a 100%. I can only afford one jib at present.
My sailing will be primarily near shore Great Lakes (Lake Huron, Tawas Bay, North Channel, Georgian Bay) and smaller inland lakes. I'm guessing my winds typically to be 5-18 MPH. My main will have two reefs.
Thanks for any and all advice.
*Jeff+* Molōn labe!
Does anyone have a storm sail? If so, where did you get it and how much did you pay for it? How do you fly it? Do you have a separate track? Boy, that sounds pretty nosey of me. Thanks Joe SeaFrog ----- Original Message ----- From: W David Scobie To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 4:23 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: M15 Foresail Size?? the jib currently made by Elliot/Pattison Sailmakers for the M15 is 128%. get a jib the size that E/P is now making. for your quoted wind speeds, as you stated, a second reef point is nice insurance. in my opinion (IMO) you should tuck in a second reef when the wind goes about 17/18 knots on the M15. once the wind gets above the low-ish 20s you need a smaller jib. :: Dave Scobie :: former M15 owner - www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com :: Sage Marine - www.sagemarine.com --- On Thu, 3/29/12, Jeffrey Johnston <frjeff@gmail.com> wrote:
If I'm to order new main and jib for my Monty 15 (which I'm likely to do soon):
What size range (100%, 110%, 120%, etc) jib makes the most sense. I believe the boat came standard with a 100%. I can only afford one jib at present.
My sailing will be primarily near shore Great Lakes (Lake Huron, Tawas Bay, North Channel, Georgian Bay) and smaller inland lakes. I'm guessing my winds typically to be 5-18 MPH. My main will have two reefs.
Thanks for any and all advice.
*Jeff+* Molōn labe!
Joe- the storm jib is on the sailplan, which Harry and judy have. It's pretty small but works great. You can sail upwind with the storm jib and a single-reefed main in a 25 knot wind and point hi and go like crazy. jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Murphy" <seagray@embarqmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 1:58 PM Subject: M_Boats: M17 Storm Sails Does anyone have a storm sail? If so, where did you get it and how much did you pay for it? How do you fly it? Do you have a separate track? Boy, that sounds pretty nosey of me. Thanks Joe SeaFrog ----- Original Message ----- From: W David Scobie To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 4:23 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: M15 Foresail Size?? the jib currently made by Elliot/Pattison Sailmakers for the M15 is 128%. get a jib the size that E/P is now making. for your quoted wind speeds, as you stated, a second reef point is nice insurance. in my opinion (IMO) you should tuck in a second reef when the wind goes about 17/18 knots on the M15. once the wind gets above the low-ish 20s you need a smaller jib. :: Dave Scobie :: former M15 owner - www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com :: Sage Marine - www.sagemarine.com --- On Thu, 3/29/12, Jeffrey Johnston <frjeff@gmail.com> wrote:
If I'm to order new main and jib for my Monty 15 (which I'm likely to do soon):
What size range (100%, 110%, 120%, etc) jib makes the most sense. I believe the boat came standard with a 100%. I can only afford one jib at present.
My sailing will be primarily near shore Great Lakes (Lake Huron, Tawas Bay, North Channel, Georgian Bay) and smaller inland lakes. I'm guessing my winds typically to be 5-18 MPH. My main will have two reefs.
Thanks for any and all advice.
*Jeff+* Molōn labe!
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Jerry, Thanks for the tip. I have the CDI furler. Any suggestions on how to deploy the storm jib??? Thks, Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: jerry montgomery To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 6:32 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: M17 Storm Sails Joe- the storm jib is on the sailplan, which Harry and judy have. It's pretty small but works great. You can sail upwind with the storm jib and a single-reefed main in a 25 knot wind and point hi and go like crazy. jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Murphy" <seagray@embarqmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 1:58 PM Subject: M_Boats: M17 Storm Sails Does anyone have a storm sail? If so, where did you get it and how much did you pay for it? How do you fly it? Do you have a separate track? Boy, that sounds pretty nosey of me. Thanks Joe SeaFrog ----- Original Message ----- From: W David Scobie To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 4:23 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: M15 Foresail Size?? the jib currently made by Elliot/Pattison Sailmakers for the M15 is 128%. get a jib the size that E/P is now making. for your quoted wind speeds, as you stated, a second reef point is nice insurance. in my opinion (IMO) you should tuck in a second reef when the wind goes about 17/18 knots on the M15. once the wind gets above the low-ish 20s you need a smaller jib. :: Dave Scobie :: former M15 owner - www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com :: Sage Marine - www.sagemarine.com --- On Thu, 3/29/12, Jeffrey Johnston <frjeff@gmail.com> wrote: > > If I'm to order new main and jib for > my Monty 15 (which I'm likely to do > soon): > > What size range (100%, 110%, 120%, etc) jib makes the most > sense. I believe > the boat came standard with a 100%. I can only afford one > jib at present. > > My sailing will be primarily near shore Great Lakes (Lake > Huron, Tawas Bay, > North Channel, Georgian Bay) and smaller inland lakes. I'm > guessing my > winds typically to be 5-18 MPH. My main will have two > reefs. > > Thanks for any and all advice. > > > *Jeff+* > Molōn labe! > -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 6334 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message
Why can't you get a wire luff on it and set it flying just inside of the furler? I don't remember how many holes there are in the bowpiece of the 15, but if there aren't three you can drill another, and tack it to the third hole. You would need to either drop the furled jib or set up another halyard- a spinnaker halyard would do if you have any interest in a spinnaker, even tho it would chafe on the forestay. You wouldn't use it enough to matter unless you were headed for Cape Horn!. jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Murphy" <seagray@embarqmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 5:23 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: M17 Storm Sails Jerry, Thanks for the tip. I have the CDI furler. Any suggestions on how to deploy the storm jib??? Thks, Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: jerry montgomery To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 6:32 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: M17 Storm Sails Joe- the storm jib is on the sailplan, which Harry and judy have. It's pretty small but works great. You can sail upwind with the storm jib and a single-reefed main in a 25 knot wind and point hi and go like crazy. jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Murphy" <seagray@embarqmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 1:58 PM Subject: M_Boats: M17 Storm Sails Does anyone have a storm sail? If so, where did you get it and how much did you pay for it? How do you fly it? Do you have a separate track? Boy, that sounds pretty nosey of me. Thanks Joe SeaFrog ----- Original Message ----- From: W David Scobie To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 4:23 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: M15 Foresail Size?? the jib currently made by Elliot/Pattison Sailmakers for the M15 is 128%. get a jib the size that E/P is now making. for your quoted wind speeds, as you stated, a second reef point is nice insurance. in my opinion (IMO) you should tuck in a second reef when the wind goes about 17/18 knots on the M15. once the wind gets above the low-ish 20s you need a smaller jib. :: Dave Scobie :: former M15 owner - www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com :: Sage Marine - www.sagemarine.com --- On Thu, 3/29/12, Jeffrey Johnston <frjeff@gmail.com> wrote: > > If I'm to order new main and jib for > my Monty 15 (which I'm likely to do > soon): > > What size range (100%, 110%, 120%, etc) jib makes the most > sense. I believe > the boat came standard with a 100%. I can only afford one > jib at present. > > My sailing will be primarily near shore Great Lakes (Lake > Huron, Tawas Bay, > North Channel, Georgian Bay) and smaller inland lakes. I'm > guessing my > winds typically to be 5-18 MPH. My main will have two > reefs. > > Thanks for any and all advice. > > > *Jeff+* > Molōn labe! > -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 6334 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message
I'll check that out. I know I have 3 holes in the bowpiece and I can put the headstay/furler in the forward hole. I'm not sure if there is enough clearance past the drum. This is for an M17. Thks ----- Original Message ----- From: jerry montgomery To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 8:32 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: M17 Storm Sails Why can't you get a wire luff on it and set it flying just inside of the furler? I don't remember how many holes there are in the bowpiece of the 15, but if there aren't three you can drill another, and tack it to the third hole. You would need to either drop the furled jib or set up another halyard- a spinnaker halyard would do if you have any interest in a spinnaker, even tho it would chafe on the forestay. You wouldn't use it enough to matter unless you were headed for Cape Horn!. jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Murphy" <seagray@embarqmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 5:23 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: M17 Storm Sails Jerry, Thanks for the tip. I have the CDI furler. Any suggestions on how to deploy the storm jib??? Thks, Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: jerry montgomery To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 6:32 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: M17 Storm Sails Joe- the storm jib is on the sailplan, which Harry and judy have. It's pretty small but works great. You can sail upwind with the storm jib and a single-reefed main in a 25 knot wind and point hi and go like crazy. jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Murphy" <seagray@embarqmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 1:58 PM Subject: M_Boats: M17 Storm Sails Does anyone have a storm sail? If so, where did you get it and how much did you pay for it? How do you fly it? Do you have a separate track? Boy, that sounds pretty nosey of me. Thanks Joe SeaFrog ----- Original Message ----- From: W David Scobie To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 4:23 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: M15 Foresail Size?? the jib currently made by Elliot/Pattison Sailmakers for the M15 is 128%. get a jib the size that E/P is now making. for your quoted wind speeds, as you stated, a second reef point is nice insurance. in my opinion (IMO) you should tuck in a second reef when the wind goes about 17/18 knots on the M15. once the wind gets above the low-ish 20s you need a smaller jib. :: Dave Scobie :: former M15 owner - www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com :: Sage Marine - www.sagemarine.com --- On Thu, 3/29/12, Jeffrey Johnston <frjeff@gmail.com> wrote: > > If I'm to order new main and jib for > my Monty 15 (which I'm likely to do > soon): > > What size range (100%, 110%, 120%, etc) jib makes the most > sense. I believe > the boat came standard with a 100%. I can only afford one > jib at present. > > My sailing will be primarily near shore Great Lakes (Lake > Huron, Tawas Bay, > North Channel, Georgian Bay) and smaller inland lakes. I'm > guessing my > winds typically to be 5-18 MPH. My main will have two > reefs. > > Thanks for any and all advice. > > > *Jeff+* > Molōn labe! > -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 6334 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message
There should be a spare jib halyard on a 17, as the CDI has a dedicated (de-cored?) halyard. I use the spare halyard shackled to the aft hole for mast raising, so there must be clearance between the line and the furler I shackle to the center hole.. I have tried to wrap my CDI up to handkerchief size in stiff winds, and something (too high center of effort?) keeps it from pulling as close to the wind as I would like. I have not owned that many boats, but it seems that the 17 is more dependent on the jib than some other species. On Mar 29, 2012, at 5:32 PM, jerry montgomery wrote:
Why can't you get a wire luff on it and set it flying just inside of the furler? I don't remember how many holes there are in the bowpiece of the 15, but if there aren't three you can drill another, and tack it to the third hole. You would need to either drop the furled jib or set up another halyard- a spinnaker halyard would do if you have any interest in a spinnaker, even tho it would chafe on the forestay. You wouldn't use it enough to matter unless you were headed for Cape Horn!.
jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Murphy" <seagray@embarqmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 5:23 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: M17 Storm Sails
Jerry, Thanks for the tip. I have the CDI furler. Any suggestions on how to deploy the storm jib??? Thks, Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: jerry montgomery To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 6:32 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: M17 Storm Sails
Joe- the storm jib is on the sailplan, which Harry and judy have. It's pretty small but works great. You can sail upwind with the storm jib and a single-reefed main in a 25 knot wind and point hi and go like crazy.
jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Murphy" <seagray@embarqmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 1:58 PM Subject: M_Boats: M17 Storm Sails
Does anyone have a storm sail? If so, where did you get it and how much did you pay for it? How do you fly it? Do you have a separate track? Boy, that sounds pretty nosey of me. Thanks Joe SeaFrog ----- Original Message ----- From: W David Scobie To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 4:23 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: M15 Foresail Size??
the jib currently made by Elliot/Pattison Sailmakers for the M15 is 128%. get a jib the size that E/P is now making.
for your quoted wind speeds, as you stated, a second reef point is nice insurance. in my opinion (IMO) you should tuck in a second reef when the wind goes about 17/18 knots on the M15. once the wind gets above the low-ish 20s you need a smaller jib.
:: Dave Scobie :: former M15 owner - www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com :: Sage Marine - www.sagemarine.com
--- On Thu, 3/29/12, Jeffrey Johnston <frjeff@gmail.com> wrote:
If I'm to order new main and jib for my Monty 15 (which I'm likely to do soon):
What size range (100%, 110%, 120%, etc) jib makes the most sense. I believe the boat came standard with a 100%. I can only afford one jib at present.
My sailing will be primarily near shore Great Lakes (Lake Huron, Tawas Bay, North Channel, Georgian Bay) and smaller inland lakes. I'm guessing my winds typically to be 5-18 MPH. My main will have two reefs.
Thanks for any and all advice.
*Jeff+* Molōn labe!
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Is the storm jib the 80%? And the "working jib" the 128%? Jeff On Mar 29, 2012 6:33 PM, "jerry montgomery" <jerry@jerrymontgomery.org> wrote:
Joe- the storm jib is on the sailplan, which Harry and judy have. It's pretty small but works great. You can sail upwind with the storm jib and a single-reefed main in a 25 knot wind and point hi and go like crazy.
jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Murphy" <seagray@embarqmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.** xmission.com <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com>> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 1:58 PM Subject: M_Boats: M17 Storm Sails
Does anyone have a storm sail? If so, where did you get it and how much did you pay for it? How do you fly it? Do you have a separate track? Boy, that sounds pretty nosey of me. Thanks Joe SeaFrog ----- Original Message ----- From: W David Scobie To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 4:23 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: M15 Foresail Size??
the jib currently made by Elliot/Pattison Sailmakers for the M15 is 128%. get a jib the size that E/P is now making.
for your quoted wind speeds, as you stated, a second reef point is nice insurance. in my opinion (IMO) you should tuck in a second reef when the wind goes about 17/18 knots on the M15. once the wind gets above the low-ish 20s you need a smaller jib.
:: Dave Scobie :: former M15 owner - www.freewebs.com/m15-named-**scred<http://www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred> :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com :: Sage Marine - www.sagemarine.com
--- On Thu, 3/29/12, Jeffrey Johnston <frjeff@gmail.com> wrote:
If I'm to order new main and jib for my Monty 15 (which I'm likely to do soon):
What size range (100%, 110%, 120%, etc) jib makes the most sense. I believe the boat came standard with a 100%. I can only afford one jib at present.
My sailing will be primarily near shore Great Lakes (Lake Huron, Tawas Bay, North Channel, Georgian Bay) and smaller inland lakes. I'm guessing my winds typically to be 5-18 MPH. My main will have two reefs.
Thanks for any and all advice.
*Jeff+* Molōn labe!
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Nope. The 128% goes on the M15, Jerry's rig dimensions and sailplan works out to 151 square feet with a (theoretical) 100% jib. His plans for the M17 show: 170% with a luff of 22.42 (about 95-ish percent of max forestay length) 150% with a luff of 22.42' (the luff would have to be a little shorter for use on a roller furler.) 109% with a luff of 21.5' 80% with a luff of 19.25' 60% with a luff of 12' However, Bob Eeg has given me slightly different dimensions for his M17 rig so the sails are dimensioned ever so slightly differently. Bob's changes to the rig works means it pencils out at 148 sf. The most significant difference is that his OEM 109% jibs are about a foot shorter on the luff. Judy Blumhorst Hyde Sails of Northern California www.judybsails.com judy@judybsails.com cell: 925.208.1692 fax: 925.820.2327 skype: judith.blumhorst www.HydeSails.com/NorthAmerica ________________________________ From: Jeffrey Johnston <frjeff@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 5:43 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: M17 Storm Sails Is the storm jib the 80%? And the "working jib" the 128%? Jeff On Mar 29, 2012 6:33 PM, "jerry montgomery" <jerry@jerrymontgomery.org> wrote:
Joe- the storm jib is on the sailplan, which Harry and judy have. It's pretty small but works great. You can sail upwind with the storm jib and a single-reefed main in a 25 knot wind and point hi and go like crazy.
jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Murphy" <seagray@embarqmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.** xmission.com <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com>> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 1:58 PM Subject: M_Boats: M17 Storm Sails
Does anyone have a storm sail? If so, where did you get it and how much did you pay for it? How do you fly it? Do you have a separate track? Boy, that sounds pretty nosey of me. Thanks Joe SeaFrog ----- Original Message ----- From: W David Scobie To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 4:23 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: M15 Foresail Size??
the jib currently made by Elliot/Pattison Sailmakers for the M15 is 128%. get a jib the size that E/P is now making.
for your quoted wind speeds, as you stated, a second reef point is nice insurance. in my opinion (IMO) you should tuck in a second reef when the wind goes about 17/18 knots on the M15. once the wind gets above the low-ish 20s you need a smaller jib.
:: Dave Scobie :: former M15 owner - www.freewebs.com/m15-named-**scred<http://www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred> :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com :: Sage Marine - www.sagemarine.com
--- On Thu, 3/29/12, Jeffrey Johnston <frjeff@gmail.com> wrote: > > If I'm to order new main and jib for > my Monty 15 (which I'm likely to do > soon): > > What size range (100%, 110%, 120%, etc) jib makes the most > sense. I believe > the boat came standard with a 100%. I can only afford one > jib at present. > > My sailing will be primarily near shore Great Lakes (Lake > Huron, Tawas Bay, > North Channel, Georgian Bay) and smaller inland lakes. I'm > guessing my > winds typically to be 5-18 MPH. My main will have two > reefs. > > Thanks for any and all advice. > > > *Jeff+* > Molōn labe! >
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I'll have to agree to disagree with you on this one, Dave. If I remember correctly the lapper for the 15 is a 109; much larger and you would have to sheet it on the rail and pointing would suffer. You could probably go to about a 112 and still get it inside the shrouds, but then it would need to sheet a bit further aft. Jeff, if you go to a sailmaker who doesn't have a sailplan, have him email me and I'll send him one. Both Harry P and Judy B have sailplans and do very good sails. jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "W David Scobie" <wdscobie@yahoo.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 1:23 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: M15 Foresail Size?? the jib currently made by Elliot/Pattison Sailmakers for the M15 is 128%. get a jib the size that E/P is now making. for your quoted wind speeds, as you stated, a second reef point is nice insurance. in my opinion (IMO) you should tuck in a second reef when the wind goes about 17/18 knots on the M15. once the wind gets above the low-ish 20s you need a smaller jib. :: Dave Scobie :: former M15 owner - www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com :: Sage Marine - www.sagemarine.com --- On Thu, 3/29/12, Jeffrey Johnston <frjeff@gmail.com> wrote:
If I'm to order new main and jib for my Monty 15 (which I'm likely to do soon):
What size range (100%, 110%, 120%, etc) jib makes the most sense. I believe the boat came standard with a 100%. I can only afford one jib at present.
My sailing will be primarily near shore Great Lakes (Lake Huron, Tawas Bay, North Channel, Georgian Bay) and smaller inland lakes. I'm guessing my winds typically to be 5-18 MPH. My main will have two reefs.
Thanks for any and all advice.
*Jeff+* Molōn labe!
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Judy B's site shows an 80% and a 128% as a standard offering for the M15. She could have more plans not posted. http://www.judybsails.com/Montgomery-15-s/81.htm On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 5:08 PM, jerry montgomery <jerry@jerrymontgomery.org
wrote:
I'll have to agree to disagree with you on this one, Dave. If I remember correctly the lapper for the 15 is a 109; much larger and you would have to sheet it on the rail and pointing would suffer. You could probably go to about a 112 and still get it inside the shrouds, but then it would need to sheet a bit further aft.
Jeff, if you go to a sailmaker who doesn't have a sailplan, have him email me and I'll send him one. Both Harry P and Judy B have sailplans and do very good sails.
jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "W David Scobie" <wdscobie@yahoo.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.** xmission.com <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com>> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 1:23 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: M15 Foresail Size??
the jib currently made by Elliot/Pattison Sailmakers for the M15 is 128%. get a jib the size that E/P is now making.
for your quoted wind speeds, as you stated, a second reef point is nice insurance. in my opinion (IMO) you should tuck in a second reef when the wind goes about 17/18 knots on the M15. once the wind gets above the low-ish 20s you need a smaller jib.
:: Dave Scobie :: former M15 owner - www.freewebs.com/m15-named-**scred<http://www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred> :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com :: Sage Marine - www.sagemarine.com
--- On Thu, 3/29/12, Jeffrey Johnston <frjeff@gmail.com> wrote:
If I'm to order new main and jib for my Monty 15 (which I'm likely to do soon):
What size range (100%, 110%, 120%, etc) jib makes the most sense. I believe the boat came standard with a 100%. I can only afford one jib at present.
My sailing will be primarily near shore Great Lakes (Lake Huron, Tawas Bay, North Channel, Georgian Bay) and smaller inland lakes. I'm guessing my winds typically to be 5-18 MPH. My main will have two reefs.
Thanks for any and all advice.
*Jeff+* Molōn labe!
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