Re: M_Boats: Replacing companionway boards - options, advice
I measured mind about a third of an inch, maybe 3/8 minus some refinishing. Dan Farrell M17 #301 Steve Trapp <stevetrapp@Q.com> wrote:
3/8, measured the original teak hatch boards on my 1985 M-15 # 335. Possibly slightly thinner from scrubbing and teak oil through the years, but 3/8 inch. Maybe the M-17 boards were slightly thicker ? Steve M-15 # 335
-----Original Message----- From: John Schinnerer Sent: Friday, August 4, 2017 4:31 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Replacing companionway boards - options, advice
Thanks - OK, I'll measure again...but I'm pretty sure mine are 1/2".
I made a bunch of notes on the boat measurements, materials, etc., for to-do projects, so as not to have to go measure the same thing over and over when making supplies lists...and the notes say the existing boards are 1/2". Going sailing tomorrow, I'll double check. Maybe somewhere in the last 40 years of her life, someone changed that dimension...
cheers, John S.
On 08/04/2017 10:51 AM, jerry@jerrymontgomery.org wrote:
No, they were 3/8.
-----Original Message----- From: John Schinnerer Sent: Friday, August 04, 2017 10:23 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Replacing companionway boards - options, advice
1974, #38. So maybe that changed - Jerry, were the OEM hatch boards on a boat like mine 1/2"? Sure looks like original hatch holder teak pieces.
cheers, John S.
On 08/04/2017 10:02 AM, Dave Scobie wrote:
John:
the boards on my M17 are 3/8". what year is your M17? SWEET PEA is an '83 using the v.2 deck mold (ie, no transom cutout).
:: Dave Scobie :: former M15 owner #288 - http://www.freewebs.com/m15-name-scred :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - http://www.m17-375.webs.com :: Sage 17 #1 - AIR BORN - http://sagemarine.us/sage_17.html :: Sage 15 sloop #001 - ASOLARE - http://sagemarine.us/sage_15.html :: SageCat #000 - SAGECAT - http://sagemarine.us/sagecat.html
On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 10:44 AM, John Schinnerer <john@eco-living.net> wrote:
Thanks...you mean 1/2" teak ply? My boards are 1/2" thick, not 3/8" - maybe the smaller companionway on the Sage 15 works with 3/8". Too thin for mine.
Mine is one you made, #38, June 1974, back in the day... :-)
cheers, John S.
On 08/03/2017 03:30 PM, jerry@jerrymontgomery.org wrote:
try contacting Dave Scobie at Sage- he had a big stack of 3/8 teak ply that looked pretty good- he uses it in the new 15. Dave has an M-17 that they can use for a pattern, but you'll probably need to cut the top to fit- no problem. This assuming that your boat is one that I made- if not, there might be changes.
-----Original Message----- From: John Schinnerer Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 3:22 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: M_Boats: Replacing companionway boards - options, advice
Hi all,
I'm contemplating what to use for new companionway boards on my M17. It came with some probably previous-owner-made plywood ones that are warped enough across their width that they don't line up well any more, especially the joint between the middle and top one (3 boards on mine).
What has anyone used for companionway boards?
Looking for experiences anyone has had with various options.
I'm pondering something like Starboard. Anyone had problems with sagging/warping in hot weather? Or thermal expansion/contraction?
I am also wondering if the lighter weight Starboard XL would work - anyone used that for anything? Mostly it just says it's 30% lighter, and has "less structural strength." But not clear exactly what that means...for this kind of application.
Looking for a reasonable combination of price vs. durability. And low maintenance is desirable.
Thus the questions about plastic board products. Oiled teak would look gorgeous but I think it would cost a fortune.
thanks, John S.
-- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john@eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com
-- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john@eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com
OK, interesting... Measured my M17 the other day, the slot between teak cleats and cabin surface is indeed 1/2", and my boards are just shy of 1/2". They were no doubt 1/2" ply originally. I sanded the curling peeling outer face fairly heavily when giving them a quick refinish so that probably took off 1/32" overall, maybe as much as 1/16" near some of the edges. cheers, John S. On 08/16/2017 09:19 AM, Dan Farrell wrote:
I measured mind about a third of an inch, maybe 3/8 minus some refinishing.
Dan Farrell M17 #301
Steve Trapp <stevetrapp@Q.com> wrote:
3/8, measured the original teak hatch boards on my 1985 M-15 # 335. Possibly slightly thinner from scrubbing and teak oil through the years, but 3/8 inch. Maybe the M-17 boards were slightly thicker ? Steve M-15 # 335
-----Original Message----- From: John Schinnerer Sent: Friday, August 4, 2017 4:31 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Replacing companionway boards - options, advice
Thanks - OK, I'll measure again...but I'm pretty sure mine are 1/2".
I made a bunch of notes on the boat measurements, materials, etc., for to-do projects, so as not to have to go measure the same thing over and over when making supplies lists...and the notes say the existing boards are 1/2". Going sailing tomorrow, I'll double check. Maybe somewhere in the last 40 years of her life, someone changed that dimension...
cheers, John S.
On 08/04/2017 10:51 AM, jerry@jerrymontgomery.org wrote:
No, they were 3/8.
-----Original Message----- From: John Schinnerer Sent: Friday, August 04, 2017 10:23 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Replacing companionway boards - options, advice
1974, #38. So maybe that changed - Jerry, were the OEM hatch boards on a boat like mine 1/2"? Sure looks like original hatch holder teak pieces.
cheers, John S.
On 08/04/2017 10:02 AM, Dave Scobie wrote:
John:
the boards on my M17 are 3/8". what year is your M17? SWEET PEA is an '83 using the v.2 deck mold (ie, no transom cutout).
:: Dave Scobie :: former M15 owner #288 - http://www.freewebs.com/m15-name-scred :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - http://www.m17-375.webs.com :: Sage 17 #1 - AIR BORN - http://sagemarine.us/sage_17.html :: Sage 15 sloop #001 - ASOLARE - http://sagemarine.us/sage_15.html :: SageCat #000 - SAGECAT - http://sagemarine.us/sagecat.html
On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 10:44 AM, John Schinnerer <john@eco-living.net> wrote:
Thanks...you mean 1/2" teak ply? My boards are 1/2" thick, not 3/8" - maybe the smaller companionway on the Sage 15 works with 3/8". Too thin for mine.
Mine is one you made, #38, June 1974, back in the day... :-)
cheers, John S.
On 08/03/2017 03:30 PM, jerry@jerrymontgomery.org wrote:
try contacting Dave Scobie at Sage- he had a big stack of 3/8 teak ply that looked pretty good- he uses it in the new 15. Dave has an M-17 that they can use for a pattern, but you'll probably need to cut the top to fit- no problem. This assuming that your boat is one that I made- if not, there might be changes.
-----Original Message----- From: John Schinnerer Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 3:22 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: M_Boats: Replacing companionway boards - options, advice
Hi all,
I'm contemplating what to use for new companionway boards on my M17. It came with some probably previous-owner-made plywood ones that are warped enough across their width that they don't line up well any more, especially the joint between the middle and top one (3 boards on mine).
What has anyone used for companionway boards?
Looking for experiences anyone has had with various options.
I'm pondering something like Starboard. Anyone had problems with sagging/warping in hot weather? Or thermal expansion/contraction?
I am also wondering if the lighter weight Starboard XL would work - anyone used that for anything? Mostly it just says it's 30% lighter, and has "less structural strength." But not clear exactly what that means...for this kind of application.
Looking for a reasonable combination of price vs. durability. And low maintenance is desirable.
Thus the questions about plastic board products. Oiled teak would look gorgeous but I think it would cost a fortune.
thanks, John S.
-- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john@eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com
-- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john@eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com
-- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john@eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com
Were both of these boats made by me? I used nothing but 3/8 ply. -----Original Message----- From: John Schinnerer Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 9:42 AM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: Replacing companionway boards - options, advice OK, interesting... Measured my M17 the other day, the slot between teak cleats and cabin surface is indeed 1/2", and my boards are just shy of 1/2". They were no doubt 1/2" ply originally. I sanded the curling peeling outer face fairly heavily when giving them a quick refinish so that probably took off 1/32" overall, maybe as much as 1/16" near some of the edges. cheers, John S. On 08/16/2017 09:19 AM, Dan Farrell wrote:
I measured mind about a third of an inch, maybe 3/8 minus some refinishing.
Dan Farrell M17 #301
Steve Trapp <stevetrapp@Q.com> wrote:
3/8, measured the original teak hatch boards on my 1985 M-15 # 335. Possibly slightly thinner from scrubbing and teak oil through the years, but 3/8 inch. Maybe the M-17 boards were slightly thicker ? Steve M-15 # 335
-----Original Message----- From: John Schinnerer Sent: Friday, August 4, 2017 4:31 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Replacing companionway boards - options, advice
Thanks - OK, I'll measure again...but I'm pretty sure mine are 1/2".
I made a bunch of notes on the boat measurements, materials, etc., for to-do projects, so as not to have to go measure the same thing over and over when making supplies lists...and the notes say the existing boards are 1/2". Going sailing tomorrow, I'll double check. Maybe somewhere in the last 40 years of her life, someone changed that dimension...
cheers, John S.
On 08/04/2017 10:51 AM, jerry@jerrymontgomery.org wrote:
No, they were 3/8.
-----Original Message----- From: John Schinnerer Sent: Friday, August 04, 2017 10:23 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Replacing companionway boards - options, advice
1974, #38. So maybe that changed - Jerry, were the OEM hatch boards on a boat like mine 1/2"? Sure looks like original hatch holder teak pieces.
cheers, John S.
On 08/04/2017 10:02 AM, Dave Scobie wrote:
John:
the boards on my M17 are 3/8". what year is your M17? SWEET PEA is an '83 using the v.2 deck mold (ie, no transom cutout).
:: Dave Scobie :: former M15 owner #288 - http://www.freewebs.com/m15-name-scred :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - http://www.m17-375.webs.com :: Sage 17 #1 - AIR BORN - http://sagemarine.us/sage_17.html :: Sage 15 sloop #001 - ASOLARE - http://sagemarine.us/sage_15.html :: SageCat #000 - SAGECAT - http://sagemarine.us/sagecat.html
On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 10:44 AM, John Schinnerer <john@eco-living.net> wrote:
Thanks...you mean 1/2" teak ply? My boards are 1/2" thick, not 3/8" - maybe the smaller companionway on the Sage 15 works with 3/8". Too thin for mine.
Mine is one you made, #38, June 1974, back in the day... :-)
cheers, John S.
On 08/03/2017 03:30 PM, jerry@jerrymontgomery.org wrote:
try contacting Dave Scobie at Sage- he had a big stack of 3/8 teak ply that looked pretty good- he uses it in the new 15. Dave has an M-17 that they can use for a pattern, but you'll probably need to cut the top to fit- no problem. This assuming that your boat is one that I made- if not, there might be changes.
-----Original Message----- From: John Schinnerer Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 3:22 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: M_Boats: Replacing companionway boards - options, advice
Hi all,
I'm contemplating what to use for new companionway boards on my M17. It came with some probably previous-owner-made plywood ones that are warped enough across their width that they don't line up well any more, especially the joint between the middle and top one (3 boards on mine).
What has anyone used for companionway boards?
Looking for experiences anyone has had with various options.
I'm pondering something like Starboard. Anyone had problems with sagging/warping in hot weather? Or thermal expansion/contraction?
I am also wondering if the lighter weight Starboard XL would work - anyone used that for anything? Mostly it just says it's 30% lighter, and has "less structural strength." But not clear exactly what that means...for this kind of application.
Looking for a reasonable combination of price vs. durability. And low maintenance is desirable.
Thus the questions about plastic board products. Oiled teak would look gorgeous but I think it would cost a fortune.
thanks, John S.
-- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john@eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com
-- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john@eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com
-- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john@eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com
Mine was made by you, I assume - it's #38, 1974. The early days... :-) Were the cleats you used around the companionway, that hold the boards, sized to fit 3/8" boards snugly? Or were the boards rather loose-sliding in the cleats? My cleats give a 1/2" slot for the boards. If I used 3/8" it would be pretty loose. The 1/2" that came with my boat is snug but doesn't jam up. I'm sure the boards I have are not your originals. They fit well enough, but are not very precision cut, especially the horizontal cuts where they overlap. And, they are 1/2" not 3/8". cheers, John S. On 08/16/2017 11:05 AM, jerry@jerrymontgomery.org wrote:
Were both of these boats made by me? I used nothing but 3/8 ply.
-----Original Message----- From: John Schinnerer Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 9:42 AM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: Replacing companionway boards - options, advice
OK, interesting...
Measured my M17 the other day, the slot between teak cleats and cabin surface is indeed 1/2", and my boards are just shy of 1/2". They were no doubt 1/2" ply originally. I sanded the curling peeling outer face fairly heavily when giving them a quick refinish so that probably took off 1/32" overall, maybe as much as 1/16" near some of the edges.
cheers, John S.
On 08/16/2017 09:19 AM, Dan Farrell wrote:
I measured mind about a third of an inch, maybe 3/8 minus some refinishing.
Dan Farrell M17 #301
... -- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design
- Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john@eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com
Mine too, 30 + years of scrubbing and rubbing teak oil have reduced it to a bit less than 3/8 when I measured a few days ago. Steve M-15 # 335 -----Original Message----- From: John Schinnerer Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 9:42 AM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: Replacing companionway boards - options, advice OK, interesting... Measured my M17 the other day, the slot between teak cleats and cabin surface is indeed 1/2", and my boards are just shy of 1/2". They were no doubt 1/2" ply originally. I sanded the curling peeling outer face fairly heavily when giving them a quick refinish so that probably took off 1/32" overall, maybe as much as 1/16" near some of the edges. cheers, John S. On 08/16/2017 09:19 AM, Dan Farrell wrote:
I measured mind about a third of an inch, maybe 3/8 minus some refinishing.
Dan Farrell M17 #301
Steve Trapp <stevetrapp@Q.com> wrote:
3/8, measured the original teak hatch boards on my 1985 M-15 # 335. Possibly slightly thinner from scrubbing and teak oil through the years, but 3/8 inch. Maybe the M-17 boards were slightly thicker ? Steve M-15 # 335
-----Original Message----- From: John Schinnerer Sent: Friday, August 4, 2017 4:31 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Replacing companionway boards - options, advice
Thanks - OK, I'll measure again...but I'm pretty sure mine are 1/2".
I made a bunch of notes on the boat measurements, materials, etc., for to-do projects, so as not to have to go measure the same thing over and over when making supplies lists...and the notes say the existing boards are 1/2". Going sailing tomorrow, I'll double check. Maybe somewhere in the last 40 years of her life, someone changed that dimension...
cheers, John S.
On 08/04/2017 10:51 AM, jerry@jerrymontgomery.org wrote:
No, they were 3/8.
-----Original Message----- From: John Schinnerer Sent: Friday, August 04, 2017 10:23 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Replacing companionway boards - options, advice
1974, #38. So maybe that changed - Jerry, were the OEM hatch boards on a boat like mine 1/2"? Sure looks like original hatch holder teak pieces.
cheers, John S.
On 08/04/2017 10:02 AM, Dave Scobie wrote:
John:
the boards on my M17 are 3/8". what year is your M17? SWEET PEA is an '83 using the v.2 deck mold (ie, no transom cutout).
:: Dave Scobie :: former M15 owner #288 - http://www.freewebs.com/m15-name-scred :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - http://www.m17-375.webs.com :: Sage 17 #1 - AIR BORN - http://sagemarine.us/sage_17.html :: Sage 15 sloop #001 - ASOLARE - http://sagemarine.us/sage_15.html :: SageCat #000 - SAGECAT - http://sagemarine.us/sagecat.html
On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 10:44 AM, John Schinnerer <john@eco-living.net> wrote:
Thanks...you mean 1/2" teak ply? My boards are 1/2" thick, not 3/8" - maybe the smaller companionway on the Sage 15 works with 3/8". Too thin for mine.
Mine is one you made, #38, June 1974, back in the day... :-)
cheers, John S.
On 08/03/2017 03:30 PM, jerry@jerrymontgomery.org wrote:
try contacting Dave Scobie at Sage- he had a big stack of 3/8 teak ply that looked pretty good- he uses it in the new 15. Dave has an M-17 that they can use for a pattern, but you'll probably need to cut the top to fit- no problem. This assuming that your boat is one that I made- if not, there might be changes.
-----Original Message----- From: John Schinnerer Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 3:22 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: M_Boats: Replacing companionway boards - options, advice
Hi all,
I'm contemplating what to use for new companionway boards on my M17. It came with some probably previous-owner-made plywood ones that are warped enough across their width that they don't line up well any more, especially the joint between the middle and top one (3 boards on mine).
What has anyone used for companionway boards?
Looking for experiences anyone has had with various options.
I'm pondering something like Starboard. Anyone had problems with sagging/warping in hot weather? Or thermal expansion/contraction?
I am also wondering if the lighter weight Starboard XL would work - anyone used that for anything? Mostly it just says it's 30% lighter, and has "less structural strength." But not clear exactly what that means...for this kind of application.
Looking for a reasonable combination of price vs. durability. And low maintenance is desirable.
Thus the questions about plastic board products. Oiled teak would look gorgeous but I think it would cost a fortune.
thanks, John S.
-- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john@eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com
-- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john@eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com
-- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john@eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com
I used 3/8 for both the 15 and 17. I'd buy 10 panels of 3/8 ply and in one day I could make enough boards for a year or more for both boats. -----Original Message----- From: Dan Farrell Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 9:19 AM To: Msog List Subject: Re: M_Boats: Replacing companionway boards - options, advice I measured mind about a third of an inch, maybe 3/8 minus some refinishing. Dan Farrell M17 #301 Steve Trapp <stevetrapp@Q.com> wrote:
3/8, measured the original teak hatch boards on my 1985 M-15 # 335. Possibly slightly thinner from scrubbing and teak oil through the years, but 3/8 inch. Maybe the M-17 boards were slightly thicker ? Steve M-15 # 335
-----Original Message----- From: John Schinnerer Sent: Friday, August 4, 2017 4:31 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Replacing companionway boards - options, advice
Thanks - OK, I'll measure again...but I'm pretty sure mine are 1/2".
I made a bunch of notes on the boat measurements, materials, etc., for to-do projects, so as not to have to go measure the same thing over and over when making supplies lists...and the notes say the existing boards are 1/2". Going sailing tomorrow, I'll double check. Maybe somewhere in the last 40 years of her life, someone changed that dimension...
cheers, John S.
On 08/04/2017 10:51 AM, jerry@jerrymontgomery.org wrote:
No, they were 3/8.
-----Original Message----- From: John Schinnerer Sent: Friday, August 04, 2017 10:23 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Replacing companionway boards - options, advice
1974, #38. So maybe that changed - Jerry, were the OEM hatch boards on a boat like mine 1/2"? Sure looks like original hatch holder teak pieces.
cheers, John S.
On 08/04/2017 10:02 AM, Dave Scobie wrote:
John:
the boards on my M17 are 3/8". what year is your M17? SWEET PEA is an '83 using the v.2 deck mold (ie, no transom cutout).
:: Dave Scobie :: former M15 owner #288 - http://www.freewebs.com/m15-name-scred :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - http://www.m17-375.webs.com :: Sage 17 #1 - AIR BORN - http://sagemarine.us/sage_17.html :: Sage 15 sloop #001 - ASOLARE - http://sagemarine.us/sage_15.html :: SageCat #000 - SAGECAT - http://sagemarine.us/sagecat.html
On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 10:44 AM, John Schinnerer <john@eco-living.net> wrote:
Thanks...you mean 1/2" teak ply? My boards are 1/2" thick, not 3/8" - maybe the smaller companionway on the Sage 15 works with 3/8". Too thin for mine.
Mine is one you made, #38, June 1974, back in the day... :-)
cheers, John S.
On 08/03/2017 03:30 PM, jerry@jerrymontgomery.org wrote:
try contacting Dave Scobie at Sage- he had a big stack of 3/8 teak ply that looked pretty good- he uses it in the new 15. Dave has an M-17 that they can use for a pattern, but you'll probably need to cut the top to fit- no problem. This assuming that your boat is one that I made- if not, there might be changes.
-----Original Message----- From: John Schinnerer Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 3:22 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: M_Boats: Replacing companionway boards - options, advice
Hi all,
I'm contemplating what to use for new companionway boards on my M17. It came with some probably previous-owner-made plywood ones that are warped enough across their width that they don't line up well any more, especially the joint between the middle and top one (3 boards on mine).
What has anyone used for companionway boards?
Looking for experiences anyone has had with various options.
I'm pondering something like Starboard. Anyone had problems with sagging/warping in hot weather? Or thermal expansion/contraction?
I am also wondering if the lighter weight Starboard XL would work - anyone used that for anything? Mostly it just says it's 30% lighter, and has "less structural strength." But not clear exactly what that means...for this kind of application.
Looking for a reasonable combination of price vs. durability. And low maintenance is desirable.
Thus the questions about plastic board products. Oiled teak would look gorgeous but I think it would cost a fortune.
thanks, John S.
-- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john@eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com
-- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john@eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com
participants (4)
-
Dan Farrell -
jerry＠jerrymontgomery.org -
John Schinnerer -
Steve Trapp