oceanrigging@earthlink.net I replaced all the rigging on my Montgomery 17 with upsized 5/32 stainless. Also replaced all the rigging on my O'Day 25 with upsized 3/16 stainless. Both jobs were handled by the guys at the above address. They are "Ocean Rigging" and are located in Fort Myers, Florida. They will complete orders based on measurements you send them and ship the stays to you, so distance is not an issue. I combined measurements with digital photos to make sure they got it right when they rigged my O'Day 25 which is kept in Wisconsin. They did a fine job at a reasonable price. Good guys too. Their workshop includes a marine wood working shop run by a separate person. They are artists. Only problem is when visiting their shop, you might trip over a dog. They love dogs. By the way, the original backstay on my M17 was 1/8 stainless. It began to fail at the top. The cotter pin that held it in place was quite tight and did not allow the stay any wiggle room. Wind had moved the backstay back and forth and eventually the stainless fibers began to part to due "wiggle" metal fatigue where they enter the compression sleeve. If any of you add a backstay to an M15 or if you replace the backstay on an M17, be sure to add a toggle jaw at the top. That will allow wiggle room and prevent the kind of metal fatique my backstay suffered. This is esp. important if your boat stays in one place and the mast stays up all the time. Dick Straubel -- Monty kept in Cape Coral, FL thauser@att.net wrote: Hi, Folks. Does anyone know where to buy replacement shrouds and forestay for M-15? I have no sailboat repair facilities here in Planet Utah. Also, my chainplates have two holes for the shrouds. Would double shrouds be overkill or a good safety precaution? What about a backstay? There is none on my M-15. Do the newer ones have backstays? Thanks. -- Thomas (Tom) Hauser EEOC Contract Investigator Post Office Box 981134 Park City, UT 84098-1134 435-640-8417 fax 435-604-6117 _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats --------------------------------- How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates.

Tom, Double shrouds would be overkill, and increase the rigging headaches on a trailer sailor. A backstay would require having the sails cut to lose the roach. No M15s have a backstay. I few years ago, I was rigging Storm Petrel in Sandusky, OH, when I found a single broken wire, or meathook, at the top of one shroud. Within 45 minutes I was back at the boat with 2 new shrouds at a total cost of about $50. It's nice to be in a sailing town.

From the archives, here's Jerry's description of the second hole on the M15 chainplates. I always thought it was for adjustment purposes.

"Belive it! Obviously take a good look at the boat and hardware, but there is actually a good safety factor the way we did it; we used 1/8" 1/19 wire with a fork terminal to each chainplate (that's what the extra hole is for), and a line to one of the aft chainplates. Adjust the aft line so that the boat is trimmed down by the bow so that the mast clears the hoist. We lifted the 17 the same way but had a wire br9idle going to each backstay chainplate, but watch out for the backstay hanging up on the hoist. We lifted both boats this way to keel them and put them on the trailer. Jerry" Bill Riker M15 - #184 Storm Petrel -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+wriker=mindspring.com@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+wriker=mindspring.com@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of thauser@att.net Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 10:32 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats; For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Dismasting due to old rigging Hi, Folks. Does anyone know where to buy replacement shrouds and forestay for M-15? I have no sailboat repair facilities here in Planet Utah. Also, my chainplates have two holes for the shrouds. Would double shrouds be overkill or a good safety precaution? What about a backstay? There is none on my M-15. Do the newer ones have backstays? Thanks. -- Thomas (Tom) Hauser EEOC Contract Investigator Post Office Box 981134 Park City, UT 84098-1134 435-640-8417 fax 435-604-6117 _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats