I use two shareware programs that are not free, but are inexpensive. The first is Gartrip. www.gartrip.de Gartrip allows waypoints to be displayed on a PC. The waypoints may be overlayed on a map if you scan one in. You can also click the map to set waypoints. The second is G7toWin. www.gpsinformation.org/ronh/g7towin.htm G7toWin has lots of file conversions, so that waypoints may be transferred between a variety of file formats. In particular, it allows CSV files created by a spreadsheet to be uploaded to a GPS. I make up a waypoint list in Excel. Since the Degrees and Minutes of most of the waypoints are common, I can just copy and paste those columns. I then create a column with the DEG-MIN-SEC parameter for transfer to the GPS. It is a lot easier for me to edit the waypoint data in Excel. That works for me. Steve Steve R. M-15 #119 Lexington, KY ************************************************ I found a web site called Easy GPS www.easygps.com where you can download for free the software to use your computer to program waypoints into your GPS. Works great. A whole lot faster and easier than the scroll and select method on the GPS itself. You can also do a whole lot more with it, but that's the main thing I was interested in. Of course, you need a PC interface cable and they don't give those away. Larry