I just bought George Buntings' M15 from your "For Sail" site and am awaiting delivery. I haven't named her yet, but I had a new M15 "Joy" 22 years ago, sailed her for nine years, then health and finances allowed a larger one, so moved on. Now the same factors force a smaller sailboat, so back to the ever- perfect M15. I will sail her on my Beaver Lake in Northwest Arkansas, perhaps on other lakes and rivers in my area as Joy did. I am a retired Coast Guard SAR pilot, and a freelance writer, so you may see my new M15 in print, as was my original Joy. I'll not bore you with more at this point, need to sail and name her first! Looking forward to being in your group. John Butler, Sailing again! ___/) Praise the Lord!
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I just bought George Buntings' M15 from your "For Sail" site and am awaiting delivery. I haven't named her yet, but I had a new M15 "Joy" 22 years ago, sailed her for nine years, then health and finances allowed a larger one, so moved on.
Now the same factors force a smaller sailboat, so back to the ever- perfect M15. I will sail her on my Beaver Lake in Northwest Arkansas, perhaps on other lakes and rivers in my area as Joy did.
I am a retired Coast Guard SAR pilot, and a freelance writer, so you may see my new M15 in print, as was my original Joy. I'll not bore you with more at this point, need to sail and name her first! Looking forward to being in your group.
John Butler, Sailing again! ___/) Praise the Lord!
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I have modified an old spinnaker a buddy gave me some time ago. It was a little big for the 17. I flew it the last three days and love it. Man, it can keep a guy busy when you are solo. I have been using temporary lines for all the controls. What I have been wondering is what folks have done to modify the masthead for a spin halyard sheave? I am going to have to come up with something. Tim D Okanogan Lake BC M17 369 Puff.
I have a spinnaker I have never used, mainly because I too normally solo, its kinda of scary to get it all wrapped up if I mess up, butt as I have heard it said here before "its not how you live, its how you live!." So bury that rail and wrap that spinnaker Gilbert -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+gilbert=mindgame.com@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+gilbert=mindgame.com@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Timtone Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 8:45 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: M_Boats: Spinnaker Stuff I have modified an old spinnaker a buddy gave me some time ago. It was a little big for the 17. I flew it the last three days and love it. Man, it can keep a guy busy when you are solo. I have been using temporary lines for all the controls. What I have been wondering is what folks have done to modify the masthead for a spin halyard sheave? I am going to have to come up with something. Tim D Okanogan Lake BC M17 369 Puff. _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
Back to the original question. I thought someone else might have taken a swipe at it. The masthead on the M17 has provision for not only the forestay and main halyard sheave, but also for a block to hoist the spinnaker. The hole for it is directly above the forestay pin. That masthead is actually a busy place, with two shrouds, two or three halyards and a topping lift block, not to mention lights, windex and on some better equipped boats (not mine), a radio antenna. I have a picture of mine I can send via email if you send me a note off channel. I use an asymmetrical spinnaker and in light air, it's a joy. As the wind picks up, it can be downright scary. To hear the "whomp" when that thing suddenly fills and to feel and hear the strain as the boat takes off to hull speed can only be appreciated live and in person. Howard On Oct 11, 2006, at 9:05 PM, Gilbert Landin wrote:
I have a spinnaker I have never used, mainly because I too normally solo, its kinda of scary to get it all wrapped up if I mess up, butt as I have heard it said here before "its not how you live, its how you live!." So bury that rail and wrap that spinnaker Gilbert
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+gilbert=mindgame.com@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats- bounces+gilbert=mindgame.com@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Timtone Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 8:45 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: M_Boats: Spinnaker Stuff
I have modified an old spinnaker a buddy gave me some time ago. It was a little big for the 17. I flew it the last three days and love it. Man, it can keep a guy busy when you are solo. I have been using temporary lines for all the controls. What I have been wondering is what folks have done to modify the masthead for a spin halyard sheave? I am going to have to come up with something. Tim D Okanogan Lake BC M17 369 Puff.
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"> Back to the original question. I thought someone else might have taken
a swipe at it.>
I was wondering if anyone on the list even had a spinnaker......thanks very much for the reply Howard.
The masthead on the M17 has provision for not only the forestay and main halyard sheave, but also for a block to hoist the spinnaker. The hole for it is directly above the forestay pin. That masthead is actually a busy place, with two shrouds, two or three halyards and a topping lift block, not to mention lights, windex and on some better equipped boats (not mine), a radio antenna.>
Yes, a very busy spot for sure. My boat has a windex but the antenna is elsewhere. I have only rigged the boat once...well twice, I took it down to repair the masthead light during the season.....so I have not been able to see just exactly what is up there. I leave the boat fully rigged and on its trailer at a launch facility. I wanted to get the parts in advance of doing the work if I could. I did discover with a little research that many mast heads have a kind of crane that is attached at the head and hangs a bit forward of the forestay. This hole you mention Howard sounds perfect. A shackle and a block and off we go.
I have a picture of mine I can send via email if you send me a note off channel.>
Yes, please. If you already have the image and don't have to take it...that would be grand. tim@timtone.com
I use an asymmetrical spinnaker and in light air, it's a joy. As the wind picks up, it can be downright scary. To hear the "whomp" when that thing suddenly fills and to feel and hear the strain as the boat takes off to hull speed can only be appreciated live and in person.> Howard
Hahaha....I am with you there buddy. On Sunday I had plenty of whomp action but also had major shifty winds to go with it. In my case, bumbling along on a very broad reach to a run and then to have hard shifts hit at the beam or forward of the beam.(at least still on the windward-pole- side) It drags you right over. I found myself bearing off to calm things down. I did one practice emergency dowse and it worked perfect and smooth.....so I hauled her back in and continued on. So far I have found that I am a bit more relaxed if I fly the gollywobbler all on its own rather than with the main up as well. For now, until I get used to the new sail, that is fine. I would love to eventually get an asymmetrical as well. Looks like a very useful sail. I was just reading up on some of the North products in that range. For now, I have a symmetrical that my oldest buddy gave me years ago. It was made in 1971! An antique sail....kind of like me. Oddly enough, other than the leeches being a tad soft, it sets very well and pulls like a Kenworth. My first and only experience with spinnakers happened earlier this season crewing on a buddies Olsen 25. I have sailed steady for 30 years, but managed to avoid spinners all this time. After a fantastic beat to the mark in 15 knots steady and harder gusts I was a tad shocked to hear him call spinnaker set for the downhill leg! Bloody racers.....it's seems all or nothing ~:0) What an experience with that huge spinner up there in those winds. I was glad there was an experienced trimmer on board. I learned a lot from one two day regatta. How to set, fly and trim a spinnaker...and how to gibe the pole. Now getting a procedure to do all that all by yourself........a whole new series of comedy. I can say this though this kind of sail is solid in my future. Great fun. Thanks again Howard. Tim D Kelowna BC
On Oct 11, 2006, at 9:05 PM, Gilbert Landin wrote:
I have a spinnaker I have never used, mainly because I too normally solo, its kinda of scary to get it all wrapped up if I mess up, butt as I have heard it said here before "its not how you live, its how you live!." So bury that rail and wrap that spinnaker Gilbert
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+gilbert=mindgame.com@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats- bounces+gilbert=mindgame.com@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Timtone Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 8:45 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: M_Boats: Spinnaker Stuff
I have modified an old spinnaker a buddy gave me some time ago. It was a little big for the 17. I flew it the last three days and love it. Man, it can keep a guy busy when you are solo. I have been using temporary lines for all the controls. What I have been wondering is what folks have done to modify the masthead for a spin halyard sheave? I am going to have to come up with something. Tim D Okanogan Lake BC M17 369 Puff.
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