Hi Connie, Thank you for you reply to my question re self steering. When I first bought my M15 I wanted to put an Auto helm 1000 tiller auto pilot on it with 2 motorcycle batteries with a switch to select one or the other battery or both batteries at the same time. I thought I would keep the batteries charged with a solar panel on the cabin top. When I was told it wouldn't work I didn't look into it any further. I'm still not sure how large of a solar panel I would have needed to charge the batteries. Jerry Montgomery suggest I use surgical tubing looped to the tiller which I had planned on doing but never did. I found a place that sold the surgical tubing in another city but was never able to get there when they were open. At that time I worked many hours and had little time to use the boat. Now my thinking is to use both a line and surgical tubing and also jib sheet to tiller. The farthest I've sailed in one day was 34 NM. Most of my sailing will port to port. I use a Garmin GPS 48. Nothing fancy but it gets the job done and is quite simple to use. Simple is what I need! Thanks again for your help. Sorry I didn't answer you sooner. I'm trying to get over the flu right now. Fair winds Bud M15 #500 --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. Learn more.