Hi all. I'm a new owner of an 1981 M17. Works great. But I have a question about a topping lift. Should I have one? It is currently rigged without, but that is because I just rigged it the way the previous owner rigged the mast. Seems to me there is no reason not to have one. It would certainly keep the boom up when lowering and reefing the main. Am I right? -tom
I'm sure somebody will enumerate the reasons a topping lift is a good idea, Tom, but to add a personal wrinkle, I also use a short bit of line (8 inches?) with clips at both ends to secure the boom when the boat is at rest. Connects to the plate that splits the backstay then to the end of the boom. Works well if you don't want the boom to swing (be sure to disconnect prior to raising the main...) like when you rig a sun or rain shade. t On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Tom Frei <tom.frei@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all. I'm a new owner of an 1981 M17. Works great. But I have a question about a topping lift. Should I have one? It is currently rigged without, but that is because I just rigged it the way the previous owner rigged the mast.
Seems to me there is no reason not to have one. It would certainly keep the boom up when lowering and reefing the main. Am I right?
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That's caqlled a pigtail, Tom, and it's my favorie\te as well. jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Smith" <openboatt@gmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 11:18 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: topping lift question I'm sure somebody will enumerate the reasons a topping lift is a good idea, Tom, but to add a personal wrinkle, I also use a short bit of line (8 inches?) with clips at both ends to secure the boom when the boat is at rest. Connects to the plate that splits the backstay then to the end of the boom. Works well if you don't want the boom to swing (be sure to disconnect prior to raising the main...) like when you rig a sun or rain shade. t On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Tom Frei <tom.frei@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all. I'm a new owner of an 1981 M17. Works great. But I have a question about a topping lift. Should I have one? It is currently rigged without, but that is because I just rigged it the way the previous owner rigged the mast.
Seems to me there is no reason not to have one. It would certainly keep the boom up when lowering and reefing the main. Am I right?
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I like having the topping lift. I tighten it up when I drop the main or when reefing to keep the boom from dropping on my noggin. Joe SeaFrog M17 ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Frei To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 2:07 PM Subject: M_Boats: topping lift question Hi all. I'm a new owner of an 1981 M17. Works great. But I have a question about a topping lift. Should I have one? It is currently rigged without, but that is because I just rigged it the way the previous owner rigged the mast. Seems to me there is no reason not to have one. It would certainly keep the boom up when lowering and reefing the main. Am I right? -tom _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet!
Tom, The lift keeps the boom from crashing on deck when you drop the sail, and it takes weight off the main when you cinch up the rear reef point (although these tiny booms are easy to lift). I think it is handy to add a short tackle at the boom end so the lift can be adjusted from the cockpit, and I like Tom Smith's idea as well; I use a bungee cord for the same purpose. My only complaint with a lift is that it rubs on the main a bit, and eventually might cause some chafing. I am eyeing the boom kicker concept, which presumably eliminates another line off the masthead and raises the boom when necessary. Maybe someone out there has one. Tom On Jul 26, 2011, at 11:07 AM, Tom Frei wrote:
Hi all. I'm a new owner of an 1981 M17. Works great. But I have a question about a topping lift. Should I have one? It is currently rigged without, but that is because I just rigged it the way the previous owner rigged the mast.
Seems to me there is no reason not to have one. It would certainly keep the boom up when lowering and reefing the main. Am I right?
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Tom A topping lift may not be necessary but they sure make life easier. I wouldn't own a boat without one Eldor M17 Motu iti -----Original Message----- From: Tom Frei <tom.frei@gmail.com> To: montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tue, Jul 26, 2011 1:07 pm Subject: M_Boats: topping lift question Hi all. I'm a new owner of an 1981 M17. Works great. But I have a uestion about a topping lift. Should I have one? It is currently rigged ithout, but that is because I just rigged it the way the previous owner igged the mast. Seems to me there is no reason not to have one. It would certainly keep the oom up when lowering and reefing the main. Am I right? -tom ______________________________________________ ttp://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet!
Thank you all for your responses. I'm going to look up and see what a "boomkicker" is. But otherwise, I'm going to go out and get a piece of 3/8 rope and hook up a topping lift. Might have to wait until next year just to get the mast down. Thanks again. -Tom On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 3:12 PM, <eisenee@aol.com> wrote:
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A topping lift may not be necessary but they sure make life easier. I wouldn't own a boat without one
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-----Original Message----- From: Tom Frei <tom.frei@gmail.com> To: montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tue, Jul 26, 2011 1:07 pm Subject: M_Boats: topping lift question
Hi all. I'm a new owner of an 1981 M17. Works great. But I have a uestion about a topping lift. Should I have one? It is currently rigged ithout, but that is because I just rigged it the way the previous owner igged the mast. Seems to me there is no reason not to have one. It would certainly keep the oom up when lowering and reefing the main. Am I right? -tom ______________________________________________ ttp://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet!
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Tom Don't use 3/8 line for topping lift, Probably 1/8 or 3/16 is all you need for that. Eldor M17 Motu iti -----Original Message----- From: Tom Frei <tom.frei@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tue, Jul 26, 2011 6:04 pm Subject: Re: M_Boats: topping lift question Thank you all for your responses. I'm going to look up and see what a boomkicker" is. But otherwise, I'm going to go out and get a piece of 3/8 ope and hook up a topping lift. Might have to wait until next year just to et the mast down. Thanks again. -Tom On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 3:12 PM, <eisenee@aol.com> wrote:
Tom A topping lift may not be necessary but they sure make life easier. I wouldn't own a boat without one Eldor M17 Motu iti -----Original Message----- From: Tom Frei <tom.frei@gmail.com> To: montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tue, Jul 26, 2011 1:07 pm Subject: M_Boats: topping lift question Hi all. I'm a new owner of an 1981 M17. Works great. But I have a uestion about a topping lift. Should I have one? It is currently rigged ithout, but that is because I just rigged it the way the previous owner igged the mast. Seems to me there is no reason not to have one. It would certainly keep the oom up when lowering and reefing the main. Am I right? -tom ______________________________________________ ttp://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet! _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet! ______________________________________________ ttp://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet!
use the smallest line you are comfortable. small line is less windage and weight aloft (this equals less heeling). :: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 - SWEET PEA :: just spent two months sailing Sage 17 #001 - AIR BORN --- On Tue, 7/26/11, eisenee@aol.com <eisenee@aol.com> wrote:
Tom Don't use 3/8 line for topping lift, Probably 1/8 or 3/16 is all you need for that. Eldor M17 Motu iti
-----Original Message----- From: Tom Frei <tom.frei@gmail.com> Sent: Tue, Jul 26, 2011 6:04 pm
Thank you all for your responses. I'm going to look up and see what a boomkicker" is. But otherwise, I'm going to go out and get a piece of 3/8 ope and hook up a topping lift. Might have to wait until next year just to et the mast down. Thanks again. -Tom
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