Re: M_Boats: CDI Roller furling
In a message dated 9/13/2006 11:38:14 P.M. Central Daylight Time, tim@timtone.com writes: I was wondering if anyone had this gear on their boat. The boat came with a 150 and the CDI roller. So I don't have the advantage of having installed it. What I would like to do is remove it. What I am wondering is if the original forestay is under all that?....and what might it take to get back to the basic wire stay. Thanks in advance. Tim Diebert M 17 #369 In Kelowna BC....wanting to de-rollered. _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Typically, one has to install a new forestay to install a CDI furler. I think the stock forestay usually needs to be shortened. DAVID O. RUDD Gallatin River Communications L.L.C. 625 S. Second St., Springfield IL 62704 (217) 744-2420 Fax (217) 744-2421
I just installed a new CDI last year, I did order a new forestay from jerry and it came in perfect, I measured and remeasure and took pictures but it was worth it. I would not go back to hanked sails its nice when finished to just roll away. BTW I would remove the mast to remove the furler, this will give you an opportunity to inspect the stay for meathooks and corrosion. gilbert -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+gilbert=mindgame.com@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+gilbert=mindgame.com@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of DORUDD@aol.com Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 9:33 AM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: CDI Roller furling In a message dated 9/13/2006 11:38:14 P.M. Central Daylight Time, tim@timtone.com writes: I was wondering if anyone had this gear on their boat. The boat came with a 150 and the CDI roller. So I don't have the advantage of having installed it. What I would like to do is remove it. What I am wondering is if the original forestay is under all that?....and what might it take to get back to the basic wire stay. Thanks in advance. Tim Diebert M 17 #369 In Kelowna BC....wanting to de-rollered. _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Typically, one has to install a new forestay to install a CDI furler. I think the stock forestay usually needs to be shortened. DAVID O. RUDD Gallatin River Communications L.L.C. 625 S. Second St., Springfield IL 62704 (217) 744-2420 Fax (217) 744-2421 _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
Gilbert Landin wrote:
"I just installed a new CDI last year, I did order a new forestay from jerry and it came in perfect, I measured and remeasure and took pictures but it was worth it. I would not go back to hanked sails its nice when finished to just roll away. BTW I would remove the mast to remove the furler, this will give you an opportunity to inspect the stay for meathooks and corrosion."
Yes, thank you Gilbert. I agree, a furler is handy. No problem there. At the same time, because they are so handy I feel a set of compromises comes about. That rolled up sail 22 feet into the air represents an uncomfortable mass to me.
I keep my boat fully rigged and on the trailer in a marina parking lot....sort of. I have been working on the boat when some high winds have been passing through. That big sausage generates a lot of pressure on the rig. It can shake a fair whack as well. Shakes the whole boat and trailer big time. First day out with this boat was a pretty strong pressure day. More than I would have preferred on a first sail on older equipment. We pushed the boat hard on all points of sail and sailed with the headsail alone just to see what kind of balance we had. Very nice. Main alone, also very nice. Anyway at one point we rolled up the genny and tied down the main to see what the 17 was like in a bit of a sea and 15-20 knots with no sail up. I recorded steady 3.5 to 4 knots boat speed....straight down hill. I thought the big sausage might have a bit to do with that. Not that going that fast without sail is all that terrible....I just found it kind of interesting. I am a "balanced rig for the condition" kind of guy. I love the feeling of being out in strong winds and having a nicely drawing working jib and a reefed main. All calm and in control....yet with as much (and in many cases more) boat speed that if a larger patch was set. With the 150 on the furler it is all fine to a point, until you want less headsail. On anything down from a beam reach it works ok....anything above a beam reach on a partially furled 150 and it just plain sucks. (including changing clew lead) My humble opinion only of course. So there is that. I do like the proper sail for the proper condition and that would be my main reason to not use the furler. The last thing that bothers me a bit is all that weight and the big clunky 'hammer' on the end of the stay that is a royal pain in the gronicals when rigging and tearing down. I have not gotten to the point that the handiness of the furler outweighs the previously mentioned issues. One thing is for sure, my wife Daphne loves the furler just the way it is and I think I might have an interesting conversation or two trying to get her over to my side side on this one. Cheers all. Tim Diebert M17 #369
Well, I got the CDI furler gear off the forestay without too much fan fare. I got lucky and it all came off without dropping the mast. Within the first few minutes with the 133 McKibbon and I knew I was not going back to the furler. I also hanked on a sail I got in a weird deal a year or so ago. I was going to use it for my other boat. Turns out she is a beauty and shapes very well. I am thinking it will make a great storm sail or heavy pressure unit. It is the jib off a Thistle.Next to new and very nicely cut....though the mondo foot roach kind of doesn't much gel with the life lines.....but other than that looks very good. I might entertain the possibility of a luff foil. I had never even seen one until a few weekends ago when I crewed on a 25 Olson. It is very slick...with a prefeeder than actually works. Coolest thing is if you have twin headsails you can slide them both on as it has two slots. Downside is all the head sails I now have would have to have their luffs modified. For now, old school hanks are fine with me. I love a plan that comes together. ~:0) Now to see about having a light weight 150 or 160 made. Have a great weekend all. Cheers, TT Oh, and thanks for all the on and off list help with this one folks. (Off to get some more miles in with my 'new' headsails)
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