Re: M_Boats: boston sailing
Easy there Rick, no need to draw blood. You can get a 2 day non-member boating pass to community boating in Boston, if you want. It's right there on the web sight. You may have talked to one of the less involved staff members over there Things tend to get a little lackadaisical at places like that. If you guys are still in Boston I would be glad to take you as guests. I am stuck sailing dinghys because of the scarcity of Montys for me to buy the East Coast : ( Thanks, Ben ----------------------------------------
From: montgomery_boats-request@mailman.xmission.com Subject: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 62, Issue 11 To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 09:59:40 -0600
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1. Re: Flag placement (jim sadler) 2. Re: boston sailing ( Richard Everett ) 3. Re: boston sailing (Ian Black) 4. Re: boston sailing (Chris and Jeff Packer) 5. Sticky centerboard fix (Gordon Gilbert) 6. Width of Battens? (Rodney Holland) 7. New Rudder for a 17 (Tim Diebert)
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Message: 1 Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 23:38:57 -0700 From: "jim sadler" Subject: Re: M_Boats: Flag placement To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats"
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Found this on internet
There is a rule covering flag size on boats. Ironically, it is usually cited to discourage flying a flag that is too small, but it works both ways. It says the width of a flag should be one inch for every foot of boat length. I reckoned that the version of the Stars and Stripes I saw flying with the brag flags on a 40-foot racer-cruiser was the right size for a 160-foot boat.
Where, when and how should the flag be flown on a sailboat? A good guide is John Rousmaniere, who in his The Annapolis Book of Seamanship interprets the traditional etiquette in a way that takes into account the requirements of contemporary boats: The ensign (the 50-star national flag) or the yacht ensign (the nautical version with 13 stars and a fouled anchor) may be flown from the traditional position stitched to the leach of the aftermost sail or from a staff at the stern. It should be flown from 8 a.m. to sunset when under way or when anchored or moored, but not when racing. The club burgee should be flown at the masthead on a pigstick or, if that's not practical because of the clutter common on modern mastheads, at the starboard, lowermost spreader.
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 12:23 PM, brian gilbert wrote:
Hi Jim:
You can correctly fly the ensign from a flagstaff at the stern, or sewn onto the leech of your mainsail, 2/3 of the way up. It should be 1" long for every foot of boat length... in your case, 15" minimum.
This is according to John Rousmaniere in the Annapolis Book of Seamanship.
Best BG
-- Brian Gilbert Author, Fix It And Sail, The Complete Trailer-Sailor Marine Media 3404 Hartford Dr Chattanooga, TN 37415 www.sailingsmall.com
From: montgomery_boats-request@mailman.xmission.com Reply-To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 08:17:56 -0600 To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 62, Issue 9
Can any of you skippers help me with the proper placement of the American flag while under sail.
I want to fly the flag properly and respectfully
Thanks
Captain James A Sadler Skipper sailing vessel Pelican M-15
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Message: 2 Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 05:41:26 -0800 From: " Richard Everett " Subject: Re: M_Boats: boston sailing To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Sigh, thanks, but I called them and they only rent to members.
Looks like we are stuck with going on a duck boat tour as our only way of getting on New England waters :-(
If any of you New Englanders ever come to Seattle in the winter, spring, summer or fall, look us up and we will show you how REAL sailors do it.
Here you go Rick
http://www.community-boating.org
Open April 1st maybe I'll see you out there.
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Message: 3 Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 09:29:33 -0600 From: Ian Black Subject: Re: M_Boats: boston sailing To: Richard Everett ,
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Hello Rick, Before we slight the sailing tenacity of our brethren in Boston we have to give pause for comparison. I have lived on both coasts and in the northern Midwest and let me assure you our Pacific Northwest winters are nothing compared to one of theirs. When was the last time you had to wear a goose-down filled parka to work? Have you ever had to plug in your car at night to make sure it would start in the morning? Have you ever had to wait until the middle of May to think about applying a new coat of bottom paint or varnish? Instead of chiding them, let's pity them for having such a short sailing season. Besides, they did give us the Red Sox who beat the Yankees..Oh Yeah!
Ian seaweeble@hotmail.com
From: rick@skyko.com> To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 05:41:26 -0800> Subject: Re: M_Boats: boston sailing>>> Sigh, thanks, but I called them and they only rent to members.>> Looks like we are stuck with going on a duck boat tour as our only way of getting on New England waters :-(>> If any of you New Englanders ever come to Seattle in the winter, spring, summer or fall, look us up and we will show you how REAL sailors do it.>>>Here you go Rick>>>>http://www.community-boating.org>>>>Open April 1st maybe I'll see you out there.>> _______________________________________________> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
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Message: 4 Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 21:00:19 -0700 From: "Chris and Jeff Packer" Subject: Re: M_Boats: boston sailing To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats"
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Ian, I have to agree. I grew up in Newburyport, 30 miles north of Boston. My dad was a commercial fisherman. New England has REAL winters. Nothing like the mild weather and largely protected waters of Puget Sound.
Jeff
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Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 8:29 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: boston sailing
Hello Rick, Before we slight the sailing tenacity of our brethren in Boston we have to give pause for comparison. I have lived on both coasts and in the northern Midwest and let me assure you our Pacific Northwest winters are nothing compared to one of theirs. When was the last time you had to wear a goose-down filled parka to work? Have you ever had to plug in your car at night to make sure it would start in the morning? Have you ever had to wait until the middle of May to think about applying a new coat of bottom paint or varnish? Instead of chiding them, let's pity them for having such a short sailing season. Besides, they did give us the Red Sox who beat the Yankees..Oh Yeah!
Ian seaweeble@hotmail.com
From: rick@skyko.com> To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 05:41:26 -0800> Subject: Re: M_Boats: boston sailing>>
Sigh, thanks, but I called them and they only rent to members.>> Looks like we are stuck with going on a duck boat tour as our only way of getting on New England waters :-(>> If any of you New Englanders ever come to Seattle in the winter, spring, summer or fall, look us up and we will show you how REAL sailors do it.>>>Here you go Rick>>> http://www.community-boating.org>>>>Open April 1st maybe I'll see you out there.>> _______________________________________________> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
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Message: 5 Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 09:25:46 -0500 From: Gordon Gilbert Subject: M_Boats: Sticky centerboard fix To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats
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I just got my M-17 back from the boat shop, and I thought I'd report on what may be an innovative approach to fixing a sticky centerboard. I bought the boat, an '83 model, last fall and found that the centerboard was snug against one side of the centerboard trunk and would drop only reluctantly (and with plenty of WD-40 sprayed down the pennant hole).
The shop hoisted the boat and was able to drop the board OK, but I asked them to do what it took to keep the board from hanging up anymore. First they drilled several viewing holes in the trunk's gel coat to assess whether the iron shot ballast was rusting and contributing to the problem -- and no rust was found.
With no apparent need to excavate and replace the ballast, the shop decided to widen the trunk opening slightly to eliminate the rubbing. To do that, they created a plywood duplicate of the centerboard, covered it with sandpaper, installed it in the trunk and carefully moved it up and down to create more clearance for the board. To ensure that water won't penetrate the sanded area -- creating a rust problem where there probably was none before -- the shop used a slim radiator paint roller to apply a thin coat of epoxy on the trunk's interior surfaces. They also sealed the gap between hull and board trunk at the bottom of the keel.
Even though the boat's centerboard looked in good shape (it had been pulled, faired and epoxy coated previously), we sanded, faired and recoated the board.
With spring finally springing in Milwaukee, I'm eagerly looking forward to launching my new boat and seeing how everything works.
Gordon M-17 #377
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Message: 6 Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 11:57:19 -0500 From: "Rodney Holland" Subject: M_Boats: Width of Battens? To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Our 17 is at a lake an hour and a half from here and I need to have the width of the battens for the mainsail without driving all the way up there to check.The main that came with it has no battens. I wrote it down somewhere two weeks ago but can't find the note. My memory is saying an inch and a quarter in width but I'm scared to trust that. I want to buy them this week so I'll have them ready for next weekend so we can get out on the water.
Anyone know this by heart or have a situation where it is easy to check for me? Thanks in advance!
Rodney Holland Texas Doghouse
Rodney Holland rodh@earthlink.net EarthLink Revolves Around You.
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Message: 7 Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 10:47:05 -0700 From: "Tim Diebert" Subject: M_Boats: New Rudder for a 17 To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'"
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I mentioned some time ago that I was going to make a new rudder for my 17. I sailed with the new one yesterday. Another chap with a 17 needed some images and info so he could replace his rudder. So I putsome images and info together
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