I wrote to the list two weeks ago in a last ditch effort to find an M15 a reasonable distance from Philadelphia after all other methods failed. With thanks to all the friendly folks who replied on and off list with potential East Coast boats and helpful advice, I have now concluded the purchase from a list member of #669, a pristine 2012 model that will be re-christened "Aino" after a character in Finnish mythology. Hooray! After some dry land rigging practice, I'm looking forward to daysails on the Delaware River, meetups with the one other PA M15 person I've found so far, Brad K of #656, at Lake Nockamixon, building up to some multi-day cruises on the Upper Chesapeake and beyond. If there are any other wrinkleboaters around, do get in touch and we can form a li'l fleet. While I'm writing, maybe someone on the list will have some pertinent experience for a looming question: the best way to remove vinyl characters (both reg numbers and previous boat name) that have been applied directly to the blue vinyl top stripe this recent Nor'Sea model came with from the factory to its previous owner? I'm hoping the characters directly on the gelcoat on the stern will be easier but am concerned about damaging the attractive stripe in the process of updating the boat's identity. Has anyone had success with this already before I start experimenting? Thanks, Will
On Mar 27, 2018, at 7:00 AM, William Coleman <williamlcoleman@gmail.com> wrote:
While I'm writing, maybe someone on the list will have some pertinent experience for a looming question: the best way to remove vinyl characters (both reg numbers and previous boat name) that have been applied directly to the blue vinyl top stripe this recent Nor'Sea model came with from the factory to its previous owner? I'm hoping the characters directly on the gelcoat on the stern will be easier but am concerned about damaging the attractive stripe in the process of updating the boat's identity. Has anyone had success with this already before I start experimenting?
I’ve had some luck with DeBond. It’s a little inconsistent--on some things it's magic, on others it hardly works. It's always the first thing I try. http://debondcorporation.com
I bet debond will remove the stripe .. or cause damage to the stripe. you need to contact Bob about how he recommends folks remove items attached to the stripes of the boats he built. :: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - https://m17-375.com/ <http://www.m17-375.webs.com> :: Truck camper - https://truckpopupcamper.wordpress.com/ :: Ramblings - https://scoobsramblings.wordpress.com/ :: former M15 owner #288 - http://www.freewebs.com/m15-name-scred On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 10:12 AM, David Rifkind <drifkind@acm.org> wrote:
On Mar 27, 2018, at 7:00 AM, William Coleman <williamlcoleman@gmail.com> wrote:
While I'm writing, maybe someone on the list will have some pertinent experience for a looming question: the best way to remove vinyl characters (both reg numbers and previous boat name) that have been applied directly to the blue vinyl top stripe this recent Nor'Sea model came with from the factory to its previous owner? I'm hoping the characters directly on the gelcoat on the stern will be easier but am concerned about damaging the attractive stripe in the process of updating the boat's identity. Has anyone had success with this already before I start experimenting?
I’ve had some luck with DeBond. It’s a little inconsistent--on some things it's magic, on others it hardly works. It's always the first thing I try.
Congratulations! I've gotten off a lot of old vinyl lettering by heating them gently with a heat gun. Once they are warm--they don't need to be hot, be very careful and get a razor blade under an edge. They should peel right off. Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 27, 2018, at 10:00 AM, William Coleman <williamlcoleman@gmail.com> wrote:
I wrote to the list two weeks ago in a last ditch effort to find an M15 a reasonable distance from Philadelphia after all other methods failed. With thanks to all the friendly folks who replied on and off list with potential East Coast boats and helpful advice, I have now concluded the purchase from a list member of #669, a pristine 2012 model that will be re-christened "Aino" after a character in Finnish mythology. Hooray! After some dry land rigging practice, I'm looking forward to daysails on the Delaware River, meetups with the one other PA M15 person I've found so far, Brad K of #656, at Lake Nockamixon, building up to some multi-day cruises on the Upper Chesapeake and beyond. If there are any other wrinkleboaters around, do get in touch and we can form a li'l fleet.
While I'm writing, maybe someone on the list will have some pertinent experience for a looming question: the best way to remove vinyl characters (both reg numbers and previous boat name) that have been applied directly to the blue vinyl top stripe this recent Nor'Sea model came with from the factory to its previous owner? I'm hoping the characters directly on the gelcoat on the stern will be easier but am concerned about damaging the attractive stripe in the process of updating the boat's identity. Has anyone had success with this already before I start experimenting?
Thanks, Will
On Tue, Mar 27, 2018, at 14:07, Burton Lowry wrote:
I've gotten off a lot of old vinyl lettering by heating them gently with a heat gun. Once they are warm--they don't need to be hot, be very careful and get a razor blade under an edge.
I've had good success with a heat gun, too. I like to use the plastic scraper blades in my razor holder. Like this: https://scraperite.com/plastic-blades-guide/use I'm less likely to screw up the underlying surface with a plastic blade. Charlie -- Charlie Fortner M-15 #411 Earth, USA, GA, Atlanta
FYI Mboaters - this boat has a STICKER as a cove stripe ... using a scraper, any type, or a heat gun to _remove_ anything stuck to the cove stripe will likely cause damage. BOB needs to provide suggestion as Bob knows the type of 'sticker' used as the cove stripe and its properties and ways to minimize damage when removing the current registration and name lettering. :: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - https://m17-375.com/ <http://www.m17-375.webs.com> :: Truck camper - https://truckpopupcamper.wordpress.com/ :: Ramblings - https://scoobsramblings.wordpress.com/ :: former M15 owner #288 - http://www.freewebs.com/m15-name-scred On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 12:19 PM, Charlie Fortner <charlie@rentrof.net> wrote:
On Tue, Mar 27, 2018, at 14:07, Burton Lowry wrote:
I've gotten off a lot of old vinyl lettering by heating them gently with a heat gun. Once they are warm--they don't need to be hot, be very careful and get a razor blade under an edge.
I've had good success with a heat gun, too.
I like to use the plastic scraper blades in my razor holder. Like this: https://scraperite.com/plastic-blades-guide/use
I'm less likely to screw up the underlying surface with a plastic blade.
Charlie
-- Charlie Fortner M-15 #411 Earth, USA, GA, Atlanta
BOB here.....:-) We use Boat Striping Tape (vinyl) from West Marine, both Seafit and West Marine brand. The tape looks awesome and lasts more than 10 years. Plan B. Buy a roll for $48 bucks and using a heat gun, remove the old tape, clean with Acetone and apply the new tape. Some colors have a clear Film that you remove And peel back after the new tape is applied. If you’re a Klutz like me hire a striping pro guy ($80 about) to apply the tape and make it perfect. Removing numbers that are over a color strip you can carefully heat up with a heat gun And using your wife’s fingernail carefully peal the numbers off. Use plastic or wood, never metal. If that fails go to Plan B. Be well Bob Sent from my iPad
On Mar 27, 2018, at 11:33 AM, Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> wrote:
FYI Mboaters - this boat has a STICKER as a cove stripe ... using a scraper, any type, or a heat gun to _remove_ anything stuck to the cove stripe will likely cause damage. BOB needs to provide suggestion as Bob knows the type of 'sticker' used as the cove stripe and its properties and ways to minimize damage when removing the current registration and name lettering.
:: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - https://m17-375.com/ <http://www.m17-375.webs.com> :: Truck camper - https://truckpopupcamper.wordpress.com/ :: Ramblings - https://scoobsramblings.wordpress.com/ :: former M15 owner #288 - http://www.freewebs.com/m15-name-scred
On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 12:19 PM, Charlie Fortner <charlie@rentrof.net> wrote:
On Tue, Mar 27, 2018, at 14:07, Burton Lowry wrote:
I've gotten off a lot of old vinyl lettering by heating them gently with a heat gun. Once they are warm--they don't need to be hot, be very careful and get a razor blade under an edge.
I've had good success with a heat gun, too.
I like to use the plastic scraper blades in my razor holder. Like this: https://scraperite.com/plastic-blades-guide/use
I'm less likely to screw up the underlying surface with a plastic blade.
Charlie
-- Charlie Fortner M-15 #411 Earth, USA, GA, Atlanta
Yes, careful use of a heat gun should work. Just soften the letters and you should be able to peel them off with your finger nails. In this case, I would avoid using any tools. As they peel off, they probably will leave most or all of the adhesive behind. Remove this with 3M adhesive remover, which will kill a few brain cells but will not harm the vinyl stripe. The stripe probably will be quite faded relative to the areas that were covered by the letters. Hopefully you can hide most of that with the new letters. -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com> On Behalf Of Burton Lowry Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 2:08 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Success! Congratulations! I've gotten off a lot of old vinyl lettering by heating them gently with a heat gun. Once they are warm--they don't need to be hot, be very careful and get a razor blade under an edge. They should peel right off. Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 27, 2018, at 10:00 AM, William Coleman <williamlcoleman@gmail.com> wrote:
I wrote to the list two weeks ago in a last ditch effort to find an M15 a reasonable distance from Philadelphia after all other methods failed. With thanks to all the friendly folks who replied on and off list with potential East Coast boats and helpful advice, I have now concluded the purchase from a list member of #669, a pristine 2012 model that will be re-christened "Aino" after a character in Finnish mythology. Hooray! After some dry land rigging practice, I'm looking forward to daysails on the Delaware River, meetups with the one other PA M15 person I've found so far, Brad K of #656, at Lake Nockamixon, building up to some multi-day cruises on the Upper Chesapeake and beyond. If there are any other wrinkleboaters around, do get in touch and we can form a li'l fleet.
While I'm writing, maybe someone on the list will have some pertinent experience for a looming question: the best way to remove vinyl characters (both reg numbers and previous boat name) that have been applied directly to the blue vinyl top stripe this recent Nor'Sea model came with from the factory to its previous owner? I'm hoping the characters directly on the gelcoat on the stern will be easier but am concerned about damaging the attractive stripe in the process of updating the boat's identity. Has anyone had success with this already before I start experimenting?
Thanks, Will
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