Re: M_Boats: Hit by lightning? Let me know!
Hello Gordon and M-Boat Gang, I deal with UPS/battery back up systems and have seen many units that have taken a lightning hit. Some survive, some are turned into burned junk. The UPS system usually does it job by sacrificing itself to protect the expensive load equipment. However, what I see in the field, is that lightning will do whatever it pleases. You think it will follow one path and it takes another. It is completely unpredictable. Is a grounding system a good idea on a sailboat? I would say absolutely. I have read of sailors that will clamp heavy jumper cables to standing rigging and drag the ends in the water. Could that save you and your boat? Maybe. I'm thrilled to watch thunderstorms as well, but I'd also like to be around long enough to spend my IRA. Summer has arrived in Mn. Later, Bones ____________________________________________________________ Get Free Email with Video Mail & Video Chat! http://www.juno.com/freeemail?refcd=JUTAGOUT1FREM0210
I just finished reading Ewan Thomson's article, "Lightning & Sailboats". I would recommend that everyone read this article. Thanks Rick Davies for bringing this to our attention. Don't sit there thinking lightning can't affect you because you don't go out in storms. If you're 10 miles away, at a max speed of 5kts, can you get out of harms way in two hours when that unexpected thunder bumper pops up?? Joe M17 Seafrog ----- Original Message ----- From: bownez@juno.com To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 9:05 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Hit by lightning? Let me know! Hello Gordon and M-Boat Gang, I deal with UPS/battery back up systems and have seen many units that have taken a lightning hit. Some survive, some are turned into burned junk. The UPS system usually does it job by sacrificing itself to protect the expensive load equipment. However, what I see in the field, is that lightning will do whatever it pleases. You think it will follow one path and it takes another. It is completely unpredictable. Is a grounding system a good idea on a sailboat? I would say absolutely. I have read of sailors that will clamp heavy jumper cables to standing rigging and drag the ends in the water. Could that save you and your boat? Maybe. I'm thrilled to watch thunderstorms as well, but I'd also like to be around long enough to spend my IRA. Summer has arrived in Mn. Later, Bones ____________________________________________________________ Get Free Email with Video Mail & Video Chat! http://www.juno.com/freeemail?refcd=JUTAGOUT1FREM0210 _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet!
I am wondering if anybody with a 17 has used a riding sail for anchoring or mooring. I have a permanent mooring on the big lake here and would like to settle the boat a bit more. No point making one and going to all that work if it has been shown in the past not to be effective. Any ideas would be appreciated. Tim Diebert M17 #369 PUFF Kelowna BC
Tim Diebert wrote: Hi Tim, Our Tripp-Lentsch 29 used to sail around an anchor, when it was windy, so I tried a number of solutions. A small sail attached to a back stay and sheeted hard to cockpit P/S cleats helps a lot. A neater solution I wanted to try was a "Vee" shaped sail. The leading edge of the "Vee" being forward, and the trailing edges spread out and sheeted to stern cleats. This solution has the added advantage that the Vee centers itself in the air stream, and makes the boat even more stable. The problem of course is the age old one for sailors. How can you set it up easily, and what do you attach it to? A small bucket filled with water and hung from a stern cleat so that it is about two feet under water will also act as a damper on movement. Happy sailing, Connie
I am wondering if anybody with a 17 has used a riding sail for anchoring or mooring.
I have a permanent mooring on the big lake here and would like to settle the boat a bit more. No point making one and going to all that work if it has been shown in the past not to be effective. Any ideas would be appreciated.
Tim Diebert M17 #369 PUFF Kelowna BC
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Thanks Connie. Very good info. So far my research has come up with the Vee config you mention below. The classic flat triangular sail in the rear clew area of the main set on the centre-line....with the third version being the same flat foil but with the sail sheeted off to one side. Thanks for the help folks. I will let you know how we make out. Tim ============================================== "Our Tripp-Lentsch 29 used to sail around an anchor, when it was windy, so I tried a number of solutions. A small sail attached to a back stay and sheeted hard to cockpit P/S cleats helps a lot. A neater solution I wanted to try was a "Vee" shaped sail. The leading edge of the "Vee" being forward, and the trailing edges spread out and sheeted to stern cleats.This solution has the added advantage that the Vee centers itself in the air stream, and makes the boat even more stable. The problem of course is the age old one for sailors. How can you set it up easily, and what do you attach it to? A small bucket filled with water and hung from a stern cleat so that it is about two feet under water will also act as a damper on movement."
Tim, Have you tried a little more chain on your rode?? Joe Seafrog M17 ----- Original Message ----- From: Tim Diebert To: 'For and about Montgomery Sailboats' Sent: Monday, May 31, 2010 11:13 AM Subject: M_Boats: Mooring Sailing I am wondering if anybody with a 17 has used a riding sail for anchoring or mooring. I have a permanent mooring on the big lake here and would like to settle the boat a bit more. No point making one and going to all that work if it has been shown in the past not to be effective. Any ideas would be appreciated. Tim Diebert M17 #369 PUFF Kelowna BC _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet!
"Tim, Have you tried a little more chain on your rode?? Joe Seafrog M17"
I have 40 feet of chain and 200' of rode when anchoring, but when on my permanent mooring I use about 20' of line with a snubber along with a slightly longer cable to the ball. Whether anchoring or mooring, a longer lead doesn't change the 'sailing' part of the problem. Thanks Joe. Tim.
----- Original Message ----- From: Tim Diebert To: 'For and about Montgomery Sailboats' Sent: Monday, May 31, 2010 11:13 AM Subject: M_Boats: Mooring Sailing I am wondering if anybody with a 17 has used a riding sail for anchoring or mooring. I have a permanent mooring on the big lake here and would like to settle the boat a bit more. No point making one and going to all that work if it has been shown in the past not to be effective. Any ideas would be appreciated. Tim Diebert M17 #369 PUFF Kelowna BC _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2909 - Release Date: 05/31/10 11:25:00
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