Thanks to all that responded to my question on close to the wind . I'm going to have to look into the rake of the mast as Jerry said , once I'm sure that it's the boats rigging , not the sailors fault . Jeff my jib sheets run though a deck mounted bullseye fairleads , do you have a track or something lik it to be able to move yor fairleads on yor M15 ? Once again thanks for the advice KLaas