To all, many thanks for your enthusiastic welcome. Twelve years ago I joined the Windmill Class (15'6" racing sloop) largely on the strength of the friendly people in the class. Studying the class membership is a good way to choose a boat. I quickly discovered that hanging out with Windmill owners was as much fun as sailing the sporty Windmill; they are a good sort. Seems that way with the Montgomery folk, as well: I lurked on your site for some months before buying a boat. I'm also pleased to note that the Windmill and M-15 jibs are exactly the same dimensions, so I have a basement full of ex-racing jibs, dacron still crackly, from which to choose. To answer a few questions:
How did you trace the list of owners? I would like to know where my M-17 has been since it left the factory.
I wish I could claim elaborate gumshoe work. But the truth is that among #412's papers was a "statement of origin," with room for second, third, and fourth assignments. Each new owner had dutifully recorded their name.
John, I'd be curious to know what your deck plan is and what hardware you are thinking of using...a dingy racer's perspective would be interesting...
I'll snap some digital photos when I get to that stage. Cheers, John Chesapeake Light Craft The Best Boats You Can Build http://www.clcboats.com
Hi John- I'd also like to welcome you to the group; I know at least some of your kayaks as there are several around here (Sacramento) that have been home built. Great-looking boats. You are in luck with the Windmill jibs. I know the Windmill altho there are few on the West Coast; it's a lighter, narrower Snipe with a little more sail area if my memory serves me. Isn't the designer's name Scott Mills? Almost an "Oldie-but-Goodie at this point. I don't know if the Windmill has a chute, but if it does it should also work. I used an old 470 chute for years on a 15. Sail the 15 with the mast raked back enough to load up the helm a little. Regards, Jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: John Harris To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 7:21 AM Subject: M_Boats: New Owner: "Chimpanzee" To all, many thanks for your enthusiastic welcome. Twelve years ago I joined the Windmill Class (15'6" racing sloop) largely on the strength of the friendly people in the class. Studying the class membership is a good way to choose a boat. I quickly discovered that hanging out with Windmill owners was as much fun as sailing the sporty Windmill; they are a good sort. Seems that way with the Montgomery folk, as well: I lurked on your site for some months before buying a boat. I'm also pleased to note that the Windmill and M-15 jibs are exactly the same dimensions, so I have a basement full of ex-racing jibs, dacron still crackly, from which to choose. To answer a few questions:
How did you trace the list of owners? I would like to know where my M-17 has been since it left the factory.
I wish I could claim elaborate gumshoe work. But the truth is that among #412's papers was a "statement of origin," with room for second, third, and fourth assignments. Each new owner had dutifully recorded their name.
John, I'd be curious to know what your deck plan is and what hardware you are thinking of using...a dingy racer's perspective would be interesting...
I'll snap some digital photos when I get to that stage. Cheers, John Chesapeake Light Craft The Best Boats You Can Build http://www.clcboats.com
Hi John- I'd also like to welcome you to the group; I know at least some of your kayaks as there are several around here (Sacramento) that have been home built. Great-looking boats.
Many thanks for the kind words, Jerry, and everyone else. I have a wealth of small boats, but they all need work or tinkering in one way or the other. I suspect I'll use the M-15 more than any other, because it'll be low maintenance and poised on its trailer, ready to sail.
You are in luck with the Windmill jibs. I know the Windmill altho there are few on the West Coast; it's a lighter, narrower Snipe with a little more sail area if my memory serves me. Isn't the designer's name Scott Mills?
The Windmill's rig is identical to the Snipe, but although it's the same length overall the Windmill weighs less than half what a Snipe does. Planes like a bobsled. Clark Mills was the designer of the Windmill. He's most famous for the Optimist Pram, but he also designed some of the Com-Pac line of pocket cruisers. He died just two months ago, alas.
I don't know if the Windmill has a chute, but if it does it should also work. I used an old 470 chute >for years on a 15.
Like the Snipe, the Windmill is a non-spinnaker class. Always one of the attractions to me.
Sail the 15 with the mast raked back enough to load up the helm a little.
Good to know. I'll tinker with it. My new mainsail is about 5% larger than the stock M-15 sail. I had them put in a full-batten up top, like a 470 (or Potter 15, for that matter). That should help a bit in light air. I also had them put in two reef points, as it's slow, unfun, and unseamanlike to sail on your ear. Cheers, John Chesapeake Light Craft The Best Boats You Can Build http://www.clcboats.com
John, Welcome aboard from another former Windmill sailor! The first and only boat that I built was a Windmill and I raced it in Duxbury Harbor MA for a couple of seasons. A good boat and another good group of people. I hope to see you on the Bay in your M15 this season. Doug "Seas The Day" M15 #310 --- John Harris <john@clcboats.com> wrote:
To all, many thanks for your enthusiastic welcome. Twelve years ago I joined the Windmill Class (15'6" racing sloop) largely on the strength of the friendly people in the class. Studying the class membership is a good way to choose a boat. I quickly discovered that hanging out with Windmill owners was as much fun as sailing the sporty Windmill; they are a good sort. Seems that way with the Montgomery folk, as well: I lurked on your site for some months before buying a boat. I'm also pleased to note that the Windmill and M-15 jibs are exactly the same dimensions, so I have a basement full of ex-racing jibs, dacron still crackly, from which to choose.
To answer a few questions:
How did you trace the list of owners? I would like to know where my M-17 has been since it left the factory.
I wish I could claim elaborate gumshoe work. But the truth is that among #412's papers was a "statement of origin," with room for second, third, and fourth assignments. Each new owner had dutifully recorded their name.
John, I'd be curious to know what your deck plan is
and what hardware you are thinking of using...a dingy racer's perspective would be interesting...
I'll snap some digital photos when I get to that stage.
Cheers, John
Chesapeake Light Craft The Best Boats You Can Build http://www.clcboats.com
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