I have an M17 in Superior, WI, I would be glad to show you that. I have a friend who has a M15 I'll ask him if he will show you his. I'll get back to you as soon as I can get a hold of him. Dale H Nummi Superior, WI ________________________________________________________________________ Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free.