Hello Monty owners. I have an M15 with the original engine bracket on the transom. Has anyone mounted a 2 hp 4 stroke Honda motor on the original bracket? If so, did it operate ok from there? Also, what length shaft, 15 or 20 inches, would you recommend? Thanks Mike Hall So Cal Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
mike: a 2HP long shaft will work on a M15 fixed bracket. if you single hand when you go forward of the cabin bulkhead the motor will cavitate. :: Dave Scobie :: former M15 owner (fixed bracket) :: M17 #375 - SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com :: Sage Marine - www.sagemarine.us --- On Mon, 2/28/11, beowulf2@cox.net <beowulf2@cox.net> wrote: Hello Monty owners. I have an M15 with the original engine bracket on the transom. Has anyone mounted a 2 hp 4 stroke Honda motor on the original bracket? If so, did it operate ok from there? Also, what length shaft, 15 or 20 inches, would you recommend? Thanks Mike Hall So Cal Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
Mike, I have a Honda 2/20 in. on my 15/original bracket. I found that I couldn't tip the motor up far enough to lock on the stock bracket. I took a piece of 2x8 about 8 inches long and through bolted it to the bracket. The motor is now about 3+ inches higher and back about 1 5/8 in. When I tip it up now, it clears everything fine. The Honda 2 feels surprisingly spunky on my 15. I was impressed. Rik On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 12:48 PM, <beowulf2@cox.net> wrote:
Hello Monty owners. I have an M15 with the original engine bracket on the transom. Has anyone mounted a 2 hp 4 stroke Honda motor on the original bracket? If so, did it operate ok from there? Also, what length shaft, 15 or 20 inches, would you recommend?
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the honda 2HP is a great motor and a great fit for the M15. the only negative, IMO, is the lack of an external fuel tank option ... refueling every 45ish minutes isn't fun. :: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 - SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com :: Sage Marine - www.sagemarine.us --- On Mon, 2/28/11, Rik Sandberg <sanderico1@gmail.com> wrote: The Honda 2 feels surprisingly spunky on my 15. I was impressed. Rik On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 12:48 PM, <beowulf2@cox.net> wrote:
Hello Monty owners. I have an M15 with the original engine bracket on the transom. Has anyone mounted a 2 hp 4 stroke Honda motor on the original bracket? If so, did it operate ok from there? Also, what length shaft, 15 or 20 inches, would you recommend?
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On 28-Feb-11 5:32 PM, W David Scobie wrote: Hi Mike, I had a 2 HP HONDA short shaft on my M15 #400 attached to the original fixed mount. The drawback with the fixed mount is that the HONDA prop isn't quite out of he water , and drags while on a port tack. I finally replaced the fixed mount with a lift mount, and that solved my problem. It also solved the problem of being able to vary the prop depth in the water depending on how many people are sitting in the cockpit. I was very happy with my HONDA, an older model without the clutch. To reverse I had to turn the engine around. I agree with Dave about the lack of an external tank, but solved that problem by purchasing an outboard hose with bulb pump in-line. Now I could refuel by squeezing the bulb while holding the end of the hose in the fuel tank opening. Connie ex M15 #400 LEPPO
the honda 2HP is a great motor and a great fit for the M15.
the only negative, IMO, is the lack of an external fuel tank option ... refueling every 45ish minutes isn't fun.
:: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 - SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com :: Sage Marine - www.sagemarine.us
--- On Mon, 2/28/11, Rik Sandberg<sanderico1@gmail.com> wrote: The Honda 2 feels surprisingly spunky on my 15. I was impressed.
Rik
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 12:48 PM,<beowulf2@cox.net> wrote:
Hello Monty owners. I have an M15 with the original engine bracket on the transom. Has anyone mounted a 2 hp 4 stroke Honda motor on the original bracket? If so, did it operate ok from there? Also, what length shaft, 15 or 20 inches, would you recommend?
Thanks Mike Hall So Cal Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
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I have a yamaha 3hp that I converted to a remote tank. Turns out it had a klein carb. with an integral fuel pump mounted in it. Just had to cut the fuel line and put a tee in it with a fuel line fitting for a remote tank. Worked really good with the remote and you still could use the internal tank too. I dont know if the honda has a pump or not but it would be worth a check.
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 07:46:04 -0500 From: chbenneck@sbcglobal.net To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: 2 hp Honda
On 28-Feb-11 5:32 PM, W David Scobie wrote:
Hi Mike,
I had a 2 HP HONDA short shaft on my M15 #400 attached to the original fixed mount.
The drawback with the fixed mount is that the HONDA prop isn't quite out of he water , and drags while on a port tack.
I finally replaced the fixed mount with a lift mount, and that solved my problem. It also solved the problem of being able to vary the prop depth in the water depending on how many people are sitting in the cockpit.
I was very happy with my HONDA, an older model without the clutch. To reverse I had to turn the engine around.
I agree with Dave about the lack of an external tank, but solved that problem by purchasing an outboard hose with bulb pump in-line. Now I could refuel by squeezing the bulb while holding the end of the hose in the fuel tank opening.
Connie ex M15 #400 LEPPO
the honda 2HP is a great motor and a great fit for the M15.
the only negative, IMO, is the lack of an external fuel tank option ... refueling every 45ish minutes isn't fun.
:: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 - SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com :: Sage Marine - www.sagemarine.us
--- On Mon, 2/28/11, Rik Sandberg<sanderico1@gmail.com> wrote: The Honda 2 feels surprisingly spunky on my 15. I was impressed.
Rik
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 12:48 PM,<beowulf2@cox.net> wrote:
Hello Monty owners. I have an M15 with the original engine bracket on the transom. Has anyone mounted a 2 hp 4 stroke Honda motor on the original bracket? If so, did it operate ok from there? Also, what length shaft, 15 or 20 inches, would you recommend?
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Does anyone have experince with the 4hp Mariner? The internal tank only holds about 1 gal and refilling in rough conditions is a pain. If it could be modified like the Yahama it would be a lifesaver for me. Eldor M17 Motu iti -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Wood <kwoocon@msn.com> To: montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Fri, Mar 4, 2011 6:54 am Subject: Re: M_Boats: 2 hp Honda have a yamaha 3hp that I converted to a remote tank. Turns out it had a lein carb. with an integral fuel pump mounted in it. Just had to cut the fuel ine and put a tee in it with a fuel line fitting for a remote tank. Worked eally good with the remote and you still could use the internal tank too. I ont know if the honda has a pump or not but it would be worth a check.
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 07:46:04 -0500 From: chbenneck@sbcglobal.net To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: 2 hp Honda
On 28-Feb-11 5:32 PM, W David Scobie wrote: Hi Mike, I had a 2 HP HONDA short shaft on my M15 #400 attached to the original fixed mount. The drawback with the fixed mount is that the HONDA prop isn't quite out of he water , and drags while on a port tack. I finally replaced the fixed mount with a lift mount, and that solved my problem. It also solved the problem of being able to vary the prop depth in the water depending on how many people are sitting in the cockpit. I was very happy with my HONDA, an older model without the clutch. To reverse I had to turn the engine around. I agree with Dave about the lack of an external tank, but solved that problem by purchasing an outboard hose with bulb pump in-line. Now I could refuel by squeezing the bulb while holding the end of the hose in the fuel tank opening. Connie ex M15 #400 LEPPO
the honda 2HP is a great motor and a great fit for the M15.
the only negative, IMO, is the lack of an external fuel tank option ... efueling every 45ish minutes isn't fun.
:: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 - SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com :: Sage Marine - www.sagemarine.us
--- On Mon, 2/28/11, Rik Sandberg<sanderico1@gmail.com> wrote: The Honda 2 feels surprisingly spunky on my 15. I was impressed.
Rik
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 12:48 PM,<beowulf2@cox.net> wrote:
Hello Monty owners. I have an M15 with the original engine bracket on the transom. Has anyone mounted a 2 hp 4 stroke Honda motor on the original bracket? If so, did it operate ok from there? Also, what length shaft, 15 r 20 inches, would you recommend?
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There is a modification for an alternate gas cap on the engine that allows you to fill the tank with a squeeze bulb. The link is: http://www.wwpotterowners.com/Modification82.html This will work for any cockpit gas tank, you just need to cut off the fitting on the squeeze bulb. Then when the engine tank is getting low you just open the cockpit gas tank and insert the hose and pump away. Doug Kelch "Seas the Day" M15 G #310 ________________________________ From: "eisenee@aol.com" <eisenee@aol.com> To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Fri, March 4, 2011 8:56:19 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: 2 hp Honda Does anyone have experince with the 4hp Mariner? The internal tank only holds about 1 gal and refilling in rough conditions is a pain. If it could be modified like the Yahama it would be a lifesaver for me. Eldor M17 Motu iti -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Wood <kwoocon@msn.com> To: montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Fri, Mar 4, 2011 6:54 am Subject: Re: M_Boats: 2 hp Honda have a yamaha 3hp that I converted to a remote tank. Turns out it had a lein carb. with an integral fuel pump mounted in it. Just had to cut the fuel ine and put a tee in it with a fuel line fitting for a remote tank. Worked eally good with the remote and you still could use the internal tank too. I ont know if the honda has a pump or not but it would be worth a check.
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 07:46:04 -0500 From: chbenneck@sbcglobal.net To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: 2 hp Honda
On 28-Feb-11 5:32 PM, W David Scobie wrote: Hi Mike, I had a 2 HP HONDA short shaft on my M15 #400 attached to the original fixed mount. The drawback with the fixed mount is that the HONDA prop isn't quite out of he water , and drags while on a port tack. I finally replaced the fixed mount with a lift mount, and that solved my problem. It also solved the problem of being able to vary the prop depth in the water depending on how many people are sitting in the cockpit. I was very happy with my HONDA, an older model without the clutch. To reverse I had to turn the engine around. I agree with Dave about the lack of an external tank, but solved that problem by purchasing an outboard hose with bulb pump in-line. Now I could refuel by squeezing the bulb while holding the end of the hose in the fuel tank opening. Connie ex M15 #400 LEPPO
the honda 2HP is a great motor and a great fit for the M15.
the only negative, IMO, is the lack of an external fuel tank option ... efueling every 45ish minutes isn't fun.
:: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 - SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com :: Sage Marine - www.sagemarine.us
--- On Mon, 2/28/11, Rik Sandberg<sanderico1@gmail.com> wrote: The Honda 2 feels surprisingly spunky on my 15. I was impressed.
Rik
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 12:48 PM,<beowulf2@cox.net> wrote:
Hello Monty owners. I have an M15 with the original engine bracket on the transom. Has anyone mounted a 2 hp 4 stroke Honda motor on the original bracket? If so, did it operate ok from there? Also, what length shaft, 15 r 20 inches, would you recommend?
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Mike: Get the long-shaft either the 2hp Honda or the 2.5hp Yamaha. I had the Honda on my M15 and added a block to the stock mount to raise it about 2 inches so that I could tilt the motor up further while sailing. --Gary Hyde 2005 M17 #637 sailboat 'Hydeaway 2' On Feb 28, 2011, at 10:48 AM, beowulf2@cox.net wrote:
Hello Monty owners. I have an M15 with the original engine bracket on the transom. Has anyone mounted a 2 hp 4 stroke Honda motor on the original bracket? If so, did it operate ok from there? Also, what length shaft, 15 or 20 inches, would you recommend?
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As others have reported, I also have a small problem tilting with the original mount and the Honda 2HP. Added a spacer between the aft face of the mount and the engine to move the engine aft. The spacer is as thick as would fit and still allow the engine "clamp gap" to slip over the assembly. Now I can tilt the engine up and, when rotated roughly 90 degrees, just get the tilt latch engaged by pushing the engine cowling (I suppose it deforms just a bit) past the upper lip of the transom. Moving the engine further aft would finally give me clearance, but without modifying the bracket the Honda's clamping gap just won't allow it. Engine operates fine, though sometimes you'll bang your knuckles pull-starting, and I've no difficulties whatsoever with it pushing the boat, but tides and currents aren't anything difficult here. Get the long shaft. -- John Tyner '88 M-15 #412 "Chimpanzee" On 2/28/2011 1:48 PM, beowulf2@cox.net wrote:
Hello Monty owners. I have an M15 with the original engine bracket on the transom. Has anyone mounted a 2 hp 4 stroke Honda motor on the original bracket? If so, did it operate ok from there? Also, what length shaft, 15 or 20 inches, would you recommend?
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