I am on F B but they have voided my password 3 times and I really don't have time to mess with it unless it,s more interesting then reporting every time you go to the head. Eldor M17 Motu iti
HI, I PERSONALLY DO NOT USE FACEBOOK. I THINK THE FACEBOOK APPROACH IS TO PROVIDE A PLACE FOR EXCHANGE OF IDEAS AND TO UPLOAD PHOTOS , VIDEO, ETC. THIS [MONTGOMERY BOATS MAILMAN XMISSION] SEEMS A BIT AWKWARD AS WELL. A SIMPLER APPROACH MIGHT BE TO START A YAHOO GROUP. IT IS EASY. IT ALLOWS FILES , PHOTOS, EMAIL, CALENDER, AND IT IS FREE. WE COULD LINK TO MSOG. ANYONE INTERESTED? LON SELKIE -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of eisenee@aol.com Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 6:12 PM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: anyone here use Face book? I am on F B but they have voided my password 3 times and I really don't have time to mess with it unless it,s more interesting then reporting every time you go to the head. Eldor M17 Motu iti _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet!
lon: at this time there are the following 'general' montgomery sailboat sites - http://www.msogphotosite.com http://www.msog.org neither of the above are 'actively updated'. msog.org 'hosts' the listproc (MAILMAN XMISSION) then there is - http://www.montgomeryowners.com IMO, this site has been 'panned' by the montgomery 'community'. even though it has a forum, blogs, photo hosting abilities, etc... it is the most 'advanced' site in it's abilities in the current www environment. there is a yahoo site - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Montyowners/ the yahoo groups site hosts only the boat owners registry. the yahoogroups 'registry was created by sean mulligan (ie, M23 'dauntless') after a general 'polling' on the msog.org/MAILMAN-XMISSION list about the interest in another 'site' being created. there is also the trailorsailor site - http://bbs.trailersailor.com/forums/montgomery/index.cgi a BBS format. and now there is the facebook offereing. i haven't joined yet ... but i do use facebook in a 'limited' way. overall i don't find the facebook service all that 'central' to my communication needs (a bit to genNEXT, 'commercia', and 'spam-like' with all the top and side ad banners). when last 'polled' the majority 'preference' was for the continued use of the listproc. if you look at 'use numbers' number two is the trailersailor BBS. the msogphotosite and msog sites are 'historical' as neither is actively updated. the montgomeryowners site hasn't had a new post in many many months (many 'political' reasons for this). dave scobie M17 #375 - SWEET PEA visit SWEET PEA's www-site - http://www.m17-375.webs.com --- On Sun, 11/8/09, zimco <zimco@gci.net> wrote: HI, I PERSONALLY DO NOT USE FACEBOOK. I THINK THE FACEBOOK APPROACH IS TO PROVIDE A PLACE FOR EXCHANGE OF IDEAS AND TO UPLOAD PHOTOS , VIDEO, ETC. THIS [MONTGOMERY BOATS MAILMAN XMISSION] SEEMS A BIT AWKWARD AS WELL. A SIMPLER APPROACH MIGHT BE TO START A YAHOO GROUP. IT IS EASY. IT ALLOWS FILES , PHOTOS, EMAIL, CALENDER, AND IT IS FREE. WE COULD LINK TO MSOG. ANYONE INTERESTED? LON SELKIE
HI DAVE, THANKYOU FOR THE CONCISE INVENTORY OF MONTY SITES. I VERY MUCH AGREE WITH ABOUT FACEBOOK. I JOINED THE MONTGOMERYOWNERS.COM SITE SOME TIME BACK AND THEN FORGOT TO RETURN TO IT. I AM CURIOUS ABOUT THE "POLITICS" YOU REFER TO. I VISITED MSOG FOR YEARS BEFORE I GOT MY PRESENT M17. MIGHT IT BE POSSIBLE TO EXPAND THE ROLE OF THE http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Montyowners/ SITE? IT HAS POTENTIAL DO TO SO MUCH MORE THAN JUST BE A REGISTRY. IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WE HAVE AN AWKWARD WORK AROUND USING THE MAILMAN XMISSION AND SOME FOLKS POSTING PHOTOS TO TRAILERSAILOR OR FACEBOOK OR OTHER SITES. I HAVE BEEN SENDING MY PHOTOS DIRECTLY TO SOME OF THE M17 OWNERS WHO SEEMED TO HAVE AN INTEREST IN STRETCHING THE Q-BERTH FOR EXAMPLE. THAT MEANS THAT OTHERS WHO MIGHT BE INTERESTED GET LEFT OUT. A CENTRAL REPOSITORY WOULD BE USEFUL. SEAN MULLIGAN DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ABOUT EXPANDING THE MISSION OF YOUR SITE? LON SELKIE =========================== lon: at this time there are the following 'general' montgomery sailboat sites - http://www.msogphotosite.com http://www.msog.org neither of the above are 'actively updated'. msog.org 'hosts' the listproc (MAILMAN XMISSION) then there is - http://www.montgomeryowners.com IMO, this site has been 'panned' by the montgomery 'community'. even though it has a forum, blogs, photo hosting abilities, etc... it is the most 'advanced' site in it's abilities in the current www environment. there is a yahoo site - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Montyowners/ the yahoo groups site hosts only the boat owners registry. the yahoogroups 'registry was created by sean mulligan (ie, M23 'dauntless') after a general 'polling' on the msog.org/MAILMAN-XMISSION list about the interest in another 'site' being created. there is also the trailorsailor site - http://bbs.trailersailor.com/forums/montgomery/index.cgi a BBS format. and now there is the facebook offereing. i haven't joined yet ... but i do use facebook in a 'limited' way. overall i don't find the facebook service all that 'central' to my communication needs (a bit to genNEXT, 'commercia', and 'spam-like' with all the top and side ad banners). when last 'polled' the majority 'preference' was for the continued use of the listproc. if you look at 'use numbers' number two is the trailersailor BBS. the msogphotosite and msog sites are 'historical' as neither is actively updated. the montgomeryowners site hasn't had a new post in many many months (many 'political' reasons for this). dave scobie M17 #375 - SWEET PEA visit SWEET PEA's www-site - http://www.m17-375.webs.com
Hi, I have been reading in the background since I bought my M17 and wish to thank all the members for their priceless stories and information. This forum has been extremely useful to me as a new Monty owner. My wife and I sail in Biscayne Bay most of the time. I agree with Dave and Lon that we need a better way to share images, video and data files. I think we should keep this forum as it is though. I remember there was an argument regarding the MontgomeryOwners.com site a while back, but I can’t remember the gist of it. I have visited all the sites mentioned by Dave, and the following is my conclusion: The builder’s Montgomeryboats.com site has some info and a lot of pictures, but it could be better. I understand this is not a priority for Bob, but I want him to know that I would have purchased some items from his website if he had replacement parts and accessories for M boats for retail sale online. I have spent more money fixing and improving my boat than I paid for her! It would be fantastic if we could add images again to the MSOG sites. I found the centerboard repairs there very instructing, too. I read every message on this xmail board and it is my main source of M boats info. I also read every once in a while the Trailer-Sailor one and it is good, too; it would be nice to consolidate them and have everyone in the same place. I will start using the MontgomeryOwners.com site to post my pictures because I don't have a better option. We should preserve the searchable archives in this site if at all possible. I use other boating Yahoo Groups and they work very well; I agree with Lon it would be nice to make the Yahoo Group, now used as a member register, a full service site or at least activate the photo section, so we can add pictures there. I don’t use Facebook and don’t intend to. Fair winds, Juan & Patricia More M17 # 359 PS: Lon, I would love to get pictures of that V-berth extension; my wife and I have been talking about it since I read your original posting. Thanks! My email is: jpmore@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/
Hi everyone, I have rarely posted or replied on this listserve. However, I feel akin to you all because of our affection for our M-boats and the 'small is bigger' concept. So, I will chip in my two-bits for what it is worth: - I would not have purchased my boat if the MSOG site did not exist; a central repository of info on line is very important. Too bad that it is somewhat dormant - maybe we should all chip in to an annual pot, and pay someone keen, like Sean or Dave, to be the administrator... Imagine what the site would be like now, if it had been maintained and managed! - I am always amazed and impressed that we have regular contributions from Jerry and Bob, and seriously comforted by the knowledge/expertise available; I doubt that they have time to review/post to more than one forum as often as they do now. - History and continuity seem increasingly taken for granted and devalued in favour of 'newer and better'; when it is blowing 30, I am thankful for Hess' and Montgomery's thought, integrity and effort, not my gps or chartplotter or... - Too many forums will likely lead to confusion, competition, ultimately exclusions, and the specter of 'politics' alluded to by Dave; one forum, one voice, say it here or don't say it at all... - Just because there is a lull in the exchange rate on this listserve does not invalidate it; often the email are flying back and forth without much of value being said or accomplished either which is the yin and yang of discourse; if the phone doesn't ring or if it has some static, does it need to be disconnected? - I enjoy this listserve, even though I seldom post, and many have commented that it was years before they contributed; this is a tribute to having a solid and reliable venue, so lets support/improve what we have rather than fly off in all directions... Sorry to inhale so much of everyone's time, I can get carried away with my rants... Cheers, Doug Poco Cambio M17 #39 On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 1:13 AM, zimco <zimco@gci.net> wrote:
HI DAVE,
THANKYOU FOR THE CONCISE INVENTORY OF MONTY SITES.
I VERY MUCH AGREE WITH ABOUT FACEBOOK.
I JOINED THE MONTGOMERYOWNERS.COM SITE SOME TIME BACK AND THEN FORGOT TO RETURN TO IT. I AM CURIOUS ABOUT THE "POLITICS" YOU REFER TO.
I VISITED MSOG FOR YEARS BEFORE I GOT MY PRESENT M17.
MIGHT IT BE POSSIBLE TO EXPAND THE ROLE OF THE http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Montyowners/ SITE? IT HAS POTENTIAL DO TO SO MUCH MORE THAN JUST BE A REGISTRY.
IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WE HAVE AN AWKWARD WORK AROUND USING THE MAILMAN XMISSION AND SOME FOLKS POSTING PHOTOS TO TRAILERSAILOR OR FACEBOOK OR OTHER SITES. I HAVE BEEN SENDING MY PHOTOS DIRECTLY TO SOME OF THE M17 OWNERS WHO SEEMED TO HAVE AN INTEREST IN STRETCHING THE Q-BERTH FOR EXAMPLE. THAT MEANS THAT OTHERS WHO MIGHT BE INTERESTED GET LEFT OUT. A CENTRAL REPOSITORY WOULD BE USEFUL.
SEAN MULLIGAN DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ABOUT EXPANDING THE MISSION OF YOUR SITE?
LON
SELKIE
===========================
lon:
at this time there are the following 'general' montgomery sailboat sites -
http://www.msogphotosite.com http://www.msog.org
neither of the above are 'actively updated'. msog.org 'hosts' the listproc (MAILMAN XMISSION)
then there is -
http://www.montgomeryowners.com
IMO, this site has been 'panned' by the montgomery 'community'. even though it has a forum, blogs, photo hosting abilities, etc... it is the most 'advanced' site in it's abilities in the current www environment.
there is a yahoo site -
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Montyowners/
the yahoo groups site hosts only the boat owners registry. the yahoogroups 'registry was created by sean mulligan (ie, M23 'dauntless') after a general 'polling' on the msog.org/MAILMAN-XMISSION list about the interest in another 'site' being created.
there is also the trailorsailor site -
http://bbs.trailersailor.com/forums/montgomery/index.cgi
a BBS format.
and now there is the facebook offereing. i haven't joined yet ... but i do use facebook in a 'limited' way. overall i don't find the facebook service all that 'central' to my communication needs (a bit to genNEXT, 'commercia', and 'spam-like' with all the top and side ad banners).
when last 'polled' the majority 'preference' was for the continued use of the listproc. if you look at 'use numbers' number two is the trailersailor BBS. the msogphotosite and msog sites are 'historical' as neither is actively updated. the montgomeryowners site hasn't had a new post in many many months (many 'political' reasons for this).
dave scobie M17 #375 - SWEET PEA visit SWEET PEA's www-site - http://www.m17-375.webs.com
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Doug, I have to say I agree with all your points. Thanks for the input. Tom Jenkins M17 Scintilla #626 On Nov 8, 2009, at 10:02 AM, doug henning wrote:
Hi everyone, I have rarely posted or replied on this listserve. However, I feel akin to you all because of our affection for our M-boats and the 'small is bigger' concept. So, I will chip in my two-bits for what it is worth:
- I would not have purchased my boat if the MSOG site did not exist; a central repository of info on line is very important. Too bad that it is somewhat dormant - maybe we should all chip in to an annual pot, and pay someone keen, like Sean or Dave, to be the administrator... Imagine what the site would be like now, if it had been maintained and managed! - I am always amazed and impressed that we have regular contributions from Jerry and Bob, and seriously comforted by the knowledge/ expertise available; I doubt that they have time to review/post to more than one forum as often as they do now. - History and continuity seem increasingly taken for granted and devalued in favour of 'newer and better'; when it is blowing 30, I am thankful for Hess' and Montgomery's thought, integrity and effort, not my gps or chartplotter or... - Too many forums will likely lead to confusion, competition, ultimately exclusions, and the specter of 'politics' alluded to by Dave; one forum, one voice, say it here or don't say it at all... - Just because there is a lull in the exchange rate on this listserve does not invalidate it; often the email are flying back and forth without much of value being said or accomplished either which is the yin and yang of discourse; if the phone doesn't ring or if it has some static, does it need to be disconnected? - I enjoy this listserve, even though I seldom post, and many have commented that it was years before they contributed; this is a tribute to having a solid and reliable venue, so lets support/improve what we have rather than fly off in all directions...
Sorry to inhale so much of everyone's time, I can get carried away with my rants...
Cheers, Doug Poco Cambio M17 #39
On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 1:13 AM, zimco <zimco@gci.net> wrote:
HI DAVE,
THANKYOU FOR THE CONCISE INVENTORY OF MONTY SITES.
I VERY MUCH AGREE WITH ABOUT FACEBOOK.
I JOINED THE MONTGOMERYOWNERS.COM SITE SOME TIME BACK AND THEN FORGOT TO RETURN TO IT. I AM CURIOUS ABOUT THE "POLITICS" YOU REFER TO.
I VISITED MSOG FOR YEARS BEFORE I GOT MY PRESENT M17.
MIGHT IT BE POSSIBLE TO EXPAND THE ROLE OF THE http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Montyowners/ SITE? IT HAS POTENTIAL DO TO SO MUCH MORE THAN JUST BE A REGISTRY.
IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WE HAVE AN AWKWARD WORK AROUND USING THE MAILMAN XMISSION AND SOME FOLKS POSTING PHOTOS TO TRAILERSAILOR OR FACEBOOK OR OTHER SITES. I HAVE BEEN SENDING MY PHOTOS DIRECTLY TO SOME OF THE M17 OWNERS WHO SEEMED TO HAVE AN INTEREST IN STRETCHING THE Q-BERTH FOR EXAMPLE. THAT MEANS THAT OTHERS WHO MIGHT BE INTERESTED GET LEFT OUT. A CENTRAL REPOSITORY WOULD BE USEFUL.
SEAN MULLIGAN DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ABOUT EXPANDING THE MISSION OF YOUR SITE?
LON
SELKIE
===========================
lon:
at this time there are the following 'general' montgomery sailboat sites -
http://www.msogphotosite.com http://www.msog.org
neither of the above are 'actively updated'. msog.org 'hosts' the listproc (MAILMAN XMISSION)
then there is -
http://www.montgomeryowners.com
IMO, this site has been 'panned' by the montgomery 'community'. even though it has a forum, blogs, photo hosting abilities, etc... it is the most 'advanced' site in it's abilities in the current www environment.
there is a yahoo site -
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Montyowners/
the yahoo groups site hosts only the boat owners registry. the yahoogroups 'registry was created by sean mulligan (ie, M23 'dauntless') after a general 'polling' on the msog.org/MAILMAN-XMISSION list about the interest in another 'site' being created.
there is also the trailorsailor site -
http://bbs.trailersailor.com/forums/montgomery/index.cgi
a BBS format.
and now there is the facebook offereing. i haven't joined yet ... but i do use facebook in a 'limited' way. overall i don't find the facebook service all that 'central' to my communication needs (a bit to genNEXT, 'commercia', and 'spam-like' with all the top and side ad banners).
when last 'polled' the majority 'preference' was for the continued use of the listproc. if you look at 'use numbers' number two is the trailersailor BBS. the msogphotosite and msog sites are 'historical' as neither is actively updated. the montgomeryowners site hasn't had a new post in many many months (many 'political' reasons for this).
dave scobie M17 #375 - SWEET PEA visit SWEET PEA's www-site - http://www.m17-375.webs.com
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Doug, Well said. When I made the decision to downsize from my NorSea, there were three driving forces for selecting a M17: - It was a Lyle Hess design; - Bob Eeg; - and, this group of knowledgeable and helpful folks. Period. Joe Seafrog M17 651 ----- Original Message ----- From: "doug henning" <doughenning1@gmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 1:02 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: MONTY SITES
Hi everyone, I have rarely posted or replied on this listserve. However, I feel akin to you all because of our affection for our M-boats and the 'small is bigger' concept. So, I will chip in my two-bits for what it is worth:
- I would not have purchased my boat if the MSOG site did not exist; a central repository of info on line is very important. Too bad that it is somewhat dormant - maybe we should all chip in to an annual pot, and pay someone keen, like Sean or Dave, to be the administrator... Imagine what the site would be like now, if it had been maintained and managed! - I am always amazed and impressed that we have regular contributions from Jerry and Bob, and seriously comforted by the knowledge/expertise available; I doubt that they have time to review/post to more than one forum as often as they do now. - History and continuity seem increasingly taken for granted and devalued in favour of 'newer and better'; when it is blowing 30, I am thankful for Hess' and Montgomery's thought, integrity and effort, not my gps or chartplotter or... - Too many forums will likely lead to confusion, competition, ultimately exclusions, and the specter of 'politics' alluded to by Dave; one forum, one voice, say it here or don't say it at all... - Just because there is a lull in the exchange rate on this listserve does not invalidate it; often the email are flying back and forth without much of value being said or accomplished either which is the yin and yang of discourse; if the phone doesn't ring or if it has some static, does it need to be disconnected? - I enjoy this listserve, even though I seldom post, and many have commented that it was years before they contributed; this is a tribute to having a solid and reliable venue, so lets support/improve what we have rather than fly off in all directions...
Sorry to inhale so much of everyone's time, I can get carried away with my rants...
Cheers, Doug Poco Cambio M17 #39
On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 1:13 AM, zimco <zimco@gci.net> wrote:
HI DAVE,
THANKYOU FOR THE CONCISE INVENTORY OF MONTY SITES.
I VERY MUCH AGREE WITH ABOUT FACEBOOK.
I JOINED THE MONTGOMERYOWNERS.COM SITE SOME TIME BACK AND THEN FORGOT TO RETURN TO IT. I AM CURIOUS ABOUT THE "POLITICS" YOU REFER TO.
I VISITED MSOG FOR YEARS BEFORE I GOT MY PRESENT M17.
MIGHT IT BE POSSIBLE TO EXPAND THE ROLE OF THE http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Montyowners/ SITE? IT HAS POTENTIAL DO TO SO MUCH MORE THAN JUST BE A REGISTRY.
IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WE HAVE AN AWKWARD WORK AROUND USING THE MAILMAN XMISSION AND SOME FOLKS POSTING PHOTOS TO TRAILERSAILOR OR FACEBOOK OR OTHER SITES. I HAVE BEEN SENDING MY PHOTOS DIRECTLY TO SOME OF THE M17 OWNERS WHO SEEMED TO HAVE AN INTEREST IN STRETCHING THE Q-BERTH FOR EXAMPLE. THAT MEANS THAT OTHERS WHO MIGHT BE INTERESTED GET LEFT OUT. A CENTRAL REPOSITORY WOULD BE USEFUL.
SEAN MULLIGAN DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ABOUT EXPANDING THE MISSION OF YOUR SITE?
LON
SELKIE
===========================
lon:
at this time there are the following 'general' montgomery sailboat sites -
http://www.msogphotosite.com http://www.msog.org
neither of the above are 'actively updated'. msog.org 'hosts' the listproc (MAILMAN XMISSION)
then there is -
http://www.montgomeryowners.com
IMO, this site has been 'panned' by the montgomery 'community'. even though it has a forum, blogs, photo hosting abilities, etc... it is the most 'advanced' site in it's abilities in the current www environment.
there is a yahoo site -
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Montyowners/
the yahoo groups site hosts only the boat owners registry. the yahoogroups 'registry was created by sean mulligan (ie, M23 'dauntless') after a general 'polling' on the msog.org/MAILMAN-XMISSION list about the interest in another 'site' being created.
there is also the trailorsailor site -
http://bbs.trailersailor.com/forums/montgomery/index.cgi
a BBS format.
and now there is the facebook offereing. i haven't joined yet ... but i do use facebook in a 'limited' way. overall i don't find the facebook service all that 'central' to my communication needs (a bit to genNEXT, 'commercia', and 'spam-like' with all the top and side ad banners).
when last 'polled' the majority 'preference' was for the continued use of the listproc. if you look at 'use numbers' number two is the trailersailor BBS. the msogphotosite and msog sites are 'historical' as neither is actively updated. the montgomeryowners site hasn't had a new post in many many months (many 'political' reasons for this).
dave scobie M17 #375 - SWEET PEA visit SWEET PEA's www-site - http://www.m17-375.webs.com
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I thought I had the solution for securing the lockers on my M17. However, what I find is that there is very little clearance to secure any hardware on the lid. Any suggestions and/or suppliers. Thanks folks, Joe Seafrog M17 #651
Joe Murphy wrote:
I thought I had the solution for securing the lockers on my M17. However, what I find is that there is very little clearance to secure any hardware on the lid. Any suggestions and/or suppliers. Thanks folks, Joe Seafrog M17 #651
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Hi Joe, When I installed the hasp on our M15 sail lockers, I think I had just enough space to get the nuts on the inside flange of the sail locker lid. I installed them and added some Locktite to the threads so that they wouldn't loosen. The other part of the assembly was inside the sail locker itself, so there was no clearance problem. ----------------------------- Another consideration: I don't know how thick the sail locker lid flange is, but if there isn't enough space on the inside for the nuts, then is the flange where you are mounting the hardware thick enough so that you could tap the hole and put threads into the fiberglass itself? Connie ex M15 #400 LEPPO
This is how my M17 locker "lock" is setup: http://audasea.montgomeryowners.com/?p=30 On Nov 8, 2009, at 3:30 PM, Conbert H. Benneck wrote:
Joe Murphy wrote:
I thought I had the solution for securing the lockers on my M17. However, what I find is that there is very little clearance to secure any hardware on the lid. Any suggestions and/or suppliers. Thanks folks, Joe Seafrog M17 #651
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Hi Joe,
When I installed the hasp on our M15 sail lockers, I think I had just enough space to get the nuts on the inside flange of the sail locker lid. I installed them and added some Locktite to the threads so that they wouldn't loosen.
The other part of the assembly was inside the sail locker itself, so there was no clearance problem.
-----------------------------
Another consideration:
I don't know how thick the sail locker lid flange is, but if there isn't enough space on the inside for the nuts, then is the flange where you are mounting the hardware thick enough so that you could tap the hole and put threads into the fiberglass itself?
Connie ex M15 #400 LEPPO
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Howard Audsley wrote: Hi Howard, Now that's a wonderful way to explain something and to show the details of how you did it. Masterful! Connie
This is how my M17 locker "lock" is setup:
http://audasea.montgomeryowners.com/?p=30
On Nov 8, 2009, at 3:30 PM, Conbert H. Benneck wrote:
Joe Murphy wrote:
I thought I had the solution for securing the lockers on my M17. However, what I find is that there is very little clearance to secure any hardware on the lid. Any suggestions and/or suppliers. Thanks folks, Joe Seafrog M17 #651
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Hi Joe,
When I installed the hasp on our M15 sail lockers, I think I had just enough space to get the nuts on the inside flange of the sail locker lid. I installed them and added some Locktite to the threads so that they wouldn't loosen.
The other part of the assembly was inside the sail locker itself, so there was no clearance problem.
-----------------------------
Another consideration:
I don't know how thick the sail locker lid flange is, but if there isn't enough space on the inside for the nuts, then is the flange where you are mounting the hardware thick enough so that you could tap the hole and put threads into the fiberglass itself?
Connie ex M15 #400 LEPPO
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Howard and Connie, Thanks for sharing the ideas. I'm now thinking of getting a thin piece of SS long enough and wide enough to use as a small backing plate for the lid. I'll use piece just thick enough to be able to tap. I'll use some epoxy and between the epoxy and the threaded backing plate I think I'll have enough strength to secure the hasp and be able to clear the lip. Again, thanks. Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Conbert H. Benneck" <chbenneck@sbcglobal.net> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 11:14 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Cockpit Locker Fasteners
Howard Audsley wrote:
Hi Howard,
Now that's a wonderful way to explain something and to show the details of how you did it.
Masterful!
Connie
This is how my M17 locker "lock" is setup:
http://audasea.montgomeryowners.com/?p=30
On Nov 8, 2009, at 3:30 PM, Conbert H. Benneck wrote:
Joe Murphy wrote:
I thought I had the solution for securing the lockers on my M17. However, what I find is that there is very little clearance to secure any hardware on the lid. Any suggestions and/or suppliers. Thanks folks, Joe Seafrog M17 #651
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Hi Joe,
When I installed the hasp on our M15 sail lockers, I think I had just enough space to get the nuts on the inside flange of the sail locker lid. I installed them and added some Locktite to the threads so that they wouldn't loosen.
The other part of the assembly was inside the sail locker itself, so there was no clearance problem.
-----------------------------
Another consideration:
I don't know how thick the sail locker lid flange is, but if there isn't enough space on the inside for the nuts, then is the flange where you are mounting the hardware thick enough so that you could tap the hole and put threads into the fiberglass itself?
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That's a nice set up. One question. If you had put the line at the right side of the lid instad of the middel do you think it would work as well? Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Howard Audsley" <haudsley@tranquility.net> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 4:35 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Cockpit Locker Fasteners
This is how my M17 locker "lock" is setup:
http://audasea.montgomeryowners.com/?p=30
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I thought I had the solution for securing the lockers on my M17. However, what I find is that there is very little clearance to secure any hardware on the lid. Any suggestions and/or suppliers. Thanks folks, Joe Seafrog M17 #651
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Hi Joe,
When I installed the hasp on our M15 sail lockers, I think I had just enough space to get the nuts on the inside flange of the sail locker lid. I installed them and added some Locktite to the threads so that they wouldn't loosen.
The other part of the assembly was inside the sail locker itself, so there was no clearance problem.
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I don't know how thick the sail locker lid flange is, but if there isn't enough space on the inside for the nuts, then is the flange where you are mounting the hardware thick enough so that you could tap the hole and put threads into the fiberglass itself?
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Howard, I like your approach, although I agree that something like Larry's variation might be a good idea if you keep heavy objects (e.g. gas cans) below the door. I am also concerned with the blind starboard locker, since I keep some 'spensive and critical things in there that could be stolen or dumped in the drink. My Potter has a simple cylinder lock keyed on the top to secure a similar locker, with a flange that rotates under the locker edge. I think I will start looking for something of that sort. Tom Jenkins M17 Scintilla On Nov 8, 2009, at 1:35 PM, Howard Audsley wrote:
This is how my M17 locker "lock" is setup:
http://audasea.montgomeryowners.com/?p=30
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Joe Murphy wrote:
I thought I had the solution for securing the lockers on my M17. However, what I find is that there is very little clearance to secure any hardware on the lid. Any suggestions and/or suppliers. Thanks folks, Joe Seafrog M17 #651
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Hi Joe,
When I installed the hasp on our M15 sail lockers, I think I had just enough space to get the nuts on the inside flange of the sail locker lid. I installed them and added some Locktite to the threads so that they wouldn't loosen.
The other part of the assembly was inside the sail locker itself, so there was no clearance problem.
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Another consideration:
I don't know how thick the sail locker lid flange is, but if there isn't enough space on the inside for the nuts, then is the flange where you are mounting the hardware thick enough so that you could tap the hole and put threads into the fiberglass itself?
Connie ex M15 #400 LEPPO
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I put hasps on mine using short screws. --Gary ☺ On Nov 8, 2009, at 9:06 AM, Joe Murphy wrote:
I thought I had the solution for securing the lockers on my M17. However, what I find is that there is very little clearance to secure any hardware on the lid. Any suggestions and/or suppliers. Thanks folks, Joe Seafrog M17 #651
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Do you recommend a particular brand/style/size of hasps, Gary? Recommended lock design/specific product? —Steve on Whidbey M-15 hull #163 On Nov 9, 2009, at 12:33 PM, Gary M Hyde wrote:
I put hasps on mine using short screws. --Gary ☺
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I thought I had the solution for securing the lockers on my M17. However, what I find is that there is very little clearance to secure any hardware on the lid. Any suggestions and/or suppliers. Thanks folks, Joe Seafrog M17 #651
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I used stainless ones with a twist-lock feature. The size was pretty common, but don't know what. Boat is in storage at present, so can't find out or photograph. --Gary Hyde 2005 M17 #637 sailboat 'Hydeaway 2' & Bolger Nymph On Nov 9, 2009, at 12:54 PM, steve pearse wrote:
Do you recommend a particular brand/style/size of hasps, Gary? Recommended lock design/specific product?
—Steve on Whidbey
M-15 hull #163
On Nov 9, 2009, at 12:33 PM, Gary M Hyde wrote:
I put hasps on mine using short screws. --Gary ☺
On Nov 8, 2009, at 9:06 AM, Joe Murphy wrote:
I thought I had the solution for securing the lockers on my M17. However, what I find is that there is very little clearance to secure any hardware on the lid. Any suggestions and/or suppliers. Thanks folks, Joe Seafrog M17 #651
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Thanks for the info, Gary. —Steve on Whidbey On Nov 9, 2009, at 5:06 PM, Gary M Hyde wrote:
I used stainless ones with a twist-lock feature. The size was pretty common, but don't know what. Boat is in storage at present, so can't find out or photograph.
--Gary Hyde 2005 M17 #637 sailboat 'Hydeaway 2' & Bolger Nymph
On Nov 9, 2009, at 12:54 PM, steve pearse wrote:
Do you recommend a particular brand/style/size of hasps, Gary? Recommended lock design/specific product?
—Steve on Whidbey
M-15 hull #163
On Nov 9, 2009, at 12:33 PM, Gary M Hyde wrote:
I put hasps on mine using short screws. --Gary ☺
On Nov 8, 2009, at 9:06 AM, Joe Murphy wrote:
I thought I had the solution for securing the lockers on my M17. However, what I find is that there is very little clearance to secure any hardware on the lid. Any suggestions and/or suppliers. Thanks folks, Joe Seafrog M17 #651
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I find this listserver is very good for trading ideas You can also use the Montgomery Forum on the Trailer Sailor. You can post pictures. Lots of ideas are exchanged there. Bill On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 1:25 AM, zimco <zimco@gci.net> wrote:
HI,
I PERSONALLY DO NOT USE FACEBOOK. I THINK THE FACEBOOK APPROACH IS TO PROVIDE A PLACE FOR EXCHANGE OF IDEAS AND TO UPLOAD PHOTOS , VIDEO, ETC.
THIS [MONTGOMERY BOATS MAILMAN XMISSION] SEEMS A BIT AWKWARD AS WELL.
A SIMPLER APPROACH MIGHT BE TO START A YAHOO GROUP. IT IS EASY. IT ALLOWS FILES , PHOTOS, EMAIL, CALENDER, AND IT IS FREE. WE COULD LINK TO MSOG.
ANYONE INTERESTED?
LON SELKIE
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of eisenee@aol.com Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 6:12 PM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: anyone here use Face book?
I am on F B but they have voided my password 3 times and I really don't have time to mess with it unless it,s more interesting then reporting every time you go to the head. Eldor M17 Motu iti _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
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