Where does this wire end?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/he3d0wj5fm3ayno/20160128_174720.jpg?dl=0 Your looking from the v berth out towards the companion way at the "ceiling" over the sink...the blue and green wire that feeds that little bus bar goes into the fiberglass there. I can't for the life of me find the other end. The little bus bar is unpowered at the moment and the blue/green feeds it. On a positive note...stern light is now working from panel for the first time in forever like the nav light! Whoohooo! Jazz
My M17 (1976) had a wire like that (embedded in the cabin overhead). If I recall correctly, it ran forward to the aft edge of the forward hatch, followed that edge a bit and then emerged to be connected to a thru-deck connector in the vicinity of the mast step. In my case, I believe it was used for an anchor light. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jazzy" <jazzydaze@gmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 9:16:08 PM Subject: M_Boats: Where does this wire end? https://www.dropbox.com/s/he3d0wj5fm3ayno/20160128_174720.jpg?dl=0 Your looking from the v berth out towards the companion way at the "ceiling" over the sink...the blue and green wire that feeds that little bus bar goes into the fiberglass there. I can't for the life of me find the other end. The little bus bar is unpowered at the moment and the blue/green feeds it. On a positive note...stern light is now working from panel for the first time in forever like the nav light! Whoohooo! Jazz
Prior to re-tooling in 81 we laminated the wire in with frabbergrass to several locations, including the bow and stern lights. After retooling we ran all wires from the switch panel, up the mast compression post and put a tricolor at the masthead and the cabin light right next to the post. Worked out great and much easier to work on. If I was messing around with an old boat, I'd just copy the new setup and forget about the embedded wires. I know that a few of the embedded wires got drilled thru when installing aftermarket deck hardware. -----Original Message----- From: swwheatley@comcast.net Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 8:23 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Where does this wire end? My M17 (1976) had a wire like that (embedded in the cabin overhead). If I recall correctly, it ran forward to the aft edge of the forward hatch, followed that edge a bit and then emerged to be connected to a thru-deck connector in the vicinity of the mast step. In my case, I believe it was used for an anchor light. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jazzy" <jazzydaze@gmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 9:16:08 PM Subject: M_Boats: Where does this wire end? https://www.dropbox.com/s/he3d0wj5fm3ayno/20160128_174720.jpg?dl=0 Your looking from the v berth out towards the companion way at the "ceiling" over the sink...the blue and green wire that feeds that little bus bar goes into the fiberglass there. I can't for the life of me find the other end. The little bus bar is unpowered at the moment and the blue/green feeds it. On a positive note...stern light is now working from panel for the first time in forever like the nav light! Whoohooo! Jazz
Thanks, Jerry, for that last statement. I used the existing wires wherever possible but now if they don't work I will realize I may have drilled through one while mounting additional hardware. Any ideas on how to string new wires and attaching them to the fiberglass overhead and avoiding having them look like phone wires strung from pole to pole? Tom B <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> This email has been sent from a virus-free computer protected by Avast. www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> <#DDB4FAA8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 11:24 AM, <jerry@jerrymontgomery.org> wrote:
Prior to re-tooling in 81 we laminated the wire in with frabbergrass to several locations, including the bow and stern lights. After retooling we ran all wires from the switch panel, up the mast compression post and put a tricolor at the masthead and the cabin light right next to the post. Worked out great and much easier to work on. If I was messing around with an old boat, I'd just copy the new setup and forget about the embedded wires.
I know that a few of the embedded wires got drilled thru when installing aftermarket deck hardware.
-----Original Message----- From: swwheatley@comcast.net Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 8:23 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Where does this wire end?
My M17 (1976) had a wire like that (embedded in the cabin overhead). If I recall correctly, it ran forward to the aft edge of the forward hatch, followed that edge a bit and then emerged to be connected to a thru-deck connector in the vicinity of the mast step. In my case, I believe it was used for an anchor light.
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From: "Jazzy" <jazzydaze@gmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 9:16:08 PM Subject: M_Boats: Where does this wire end?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/he3d0wj5fm3ayno/20160128_174720.jpg?dl=0
Your looking from the v berth out towards the companion way at the "ceiling" over the sink...the blue and green wire that feeds that little bus bar goes into the fiberglass there. I can't for the life of me find the other end. The little bus bar is unpowered at the moment and the blue/green feeds it. On a positive note...stern light is now working from panel for the first time in forever like the nav light! Whoohooo!
Jazz
Thanks Jerry! Love the Monty...my first real sailboat! I like the idea of the light by the compression post alot. And it makes sense to run it up that way for the mastlight which is my next project after the compass light. The mast light has one black wire up top, and the bottom of the mast shows two "speaker" type wires. Adding power didnt light it with alligater clips. Doesn't sound good. Lol. Hopefully a bulb. The bow light and stern light weren't too hard to find. The stern light gave me a little hell because it's blue and green at the light and then spliced somewhere in between to a loose brown and white at under the sink. ....go figure! And I hear ya Tom...I have to get power to behind the compass on the starboard side of the companion way. The wires are already up there if I could just find the other end of it! Lol...nothing behind the panel or under the port sink. I'll have a looksie upwards under the sink. May have missed that. If not I'll have to telephone pole it somehow. They have nice conduit that could hide stuff if need be, but I'm hoping to avoid that. Jazz On Jan 29, 2016 9:36 AM, "Thomas Buzzi" <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks, Jerry, for that last statement. I used the existing wires wherever possible but now if they don't work I will realize I may have drilled through one while mounting additional hardware. Any ideas on how to string new wires and attaching them to the fiberglass overhead and avoiding having them look like phone wires strung from pole to pole? Tom B < https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaig...
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On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 11:24 AM, <jerry@jerrymontgomery.org> wrote:
Prior to re-tooling in 81 we laminated the wire in with frabbergrass to several locations, including the bow and stern lights. After retooling we ran all wires from the switch panel, up the mast compression post and put a tricolor at the masthead and the cabin light right next to the post. Worked out great and much easier to work on. If I was messing around with an old boat, I'd just copy the new setup and forget about the embedded wires.
I know that a few of the embedded wires got drilled thru when installing aftermarket deck hardware.
-----Original Message----- From: swwheatley@comcast.net Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 8:23 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Where does this wire end?
My M17 (1976) had a wire like that (embedded in the cabin overhead). If I recall correctly, it ran forward to the aft edge of the forward hatch, followed that edge a bit and then emerged to be connected to a thru-deck connector in the vicinity of the mast step. In my case, I believe it was used for an anchor light.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jazzy" <jazzydaze@gmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 9:16:08 PM Subject: M_Boats: Where does this wire end?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/he3d0wj5fm3ayno/20160128_174720.jpg?dl=0
Your looking from the v berth out towards the companion way at the "ceiling" over the sink...the blue and green wire that feeds that little bus bar goes into the fiberglass there. I can't for the life of me find the other end. The little bus bar is unpowered at the moment and the blue/green feeds it. On a positive note...stern light is now working from panel for the first time in forever like the nav light! Whoohooo!
Jazz
If you're going to be in saltwater/coastal marine environment at all, use quality marine grade wire, heat-seal marine grade splices, connectors, plugs, etc. also. Yeah it costs more, but the quantities are small for little boats like ours, and, the troubleshooting and fixing you *won't* have to do in a year or two are worth it (unless you really like that kind of thing... :-). cheers, John S. On 01/29/2016 03:16 PM, Jazzy wrote:
Thanks Jerry! Love the Monty...my first real sailboat! I like the idea of the light by the compression post alot. And it makes sense to run it up that way for the mastlight which is my next project after the compass light. The mast light has one black wire up top, and the bottom of the mast shows two "speaker" type wires. Adding power didnt light it with alligater clips. Doesn't sound good. Lol. Hopefully a bulb. The bow light and stern light weren't too hard to find. The stern light gave me a little hell because it's blue and green at the light and then spliced somewhere in between to a loose brown and white at under the sink. ....go figure!
And I hear ya Tom...I have to get power to behind the compass on the starboard side of the companion way. The wires are already up there if I could just find the other end of it! Lol...nothing behind the panel or under the port sink. I'll have a looksie upwards under the sink. May have missed that. If not I'll have to telephone pole it somehow. They have nice conduit that could hide stuff if need be, but I'm hoping to avoid that.
Jazz On Jan 29, 2016 9:36 AM, "Thomas Buzzi" <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks, Jerry, for that last statement. I used the existing wires wherever possible but now if they don't work I will realize I may have drilled through one while mounting additional hardware. Any ideas on how to string new wires and attaching them to the fiberglass overhead and avoiding having them look like phone wires strung from pole to pole? Tom B < https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaig...
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On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 11:24 AM, <jerry@jerrymontgomery.org> wrote:
Prior to re-tooling in 81 we laminated the wire in with frabbergrass to several locations, including the bow and stern lights. After retooling we ran all wires from the switch panel, up the mast compression post and put a tricolor at the masthead and the cabin light right next to the post. Worked out great and much easier to work on. If I was messing around with an old boat, I'd just copy the new setup and forget about the embedded wires.
I know that a few of the embedded wires got drilled thru when installing aftermarket deck hardware.
-----Original Message----- From: swwheatley@comcast.net Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 8:23 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Where does this wire end?
My M17 (1976) had a wire like that (embedded in the cabin overhead). If I recall correctly, it ran forward to the aft edge of the forward hatch, followed that edge a bit and then emerged to be connected to a thru-deck connector in the vicinity of the mast step. In my case, I believe it was used for an anchor light.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jazzy" <jazzydaze@gmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 9:16:08 PM Subject: M_Boats: Where does this wire end?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/he3d0wj5fm3ayno/20160128_174720.jpg?dl=0
Your looking from the v berth out towards the companion way at the "ceiling" over the sink...the blue and green wire that feeds that little bus bar goes into the fiberglass there. I can't for the life of me find the other end. The little bus bar is unpowered at the moment and the blue/green feeds it. On a positive note...stern light is now working from panel for the first time in forever like the nav light! Whoohooo!
Jazz
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They also have heat shrink connectors that have heat activated glue inside the shrink sleeve which makes these things really watertight. My boat trailer uses them and they work great! <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> This email has been sent from a virus-free computer protected by Avast. www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> <#DDB4FAA8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 9:15 PM, John Schinnerer <john@eco-living.net> wrote:
If you're going to be in saltwater/coastal marine environment at all, use quality marine grade wire, heat-seal marine grade splices, connectors, plugs, etc. also. Yeah it costs more, but the quantities are small for little boats like ours, and, the troubleshooting and fixing you *won't* have to do in a year or two are worth it (unless you really like that kind of thing... :-).
cheers, John S.
On 01/29/2016 03:16 PM, Jazzy wrote:
Thanks Jerry! Love the Monty...my first real sailboat! I like the idea of the light by the compression post alot. And it makes sense to run it up that way for the mastlight which is my next project after the compass light. The mast light has one black wire up top, and the bottom of the mast shows two "speaker" type wires. Adding power didnt light it with alligater clips. Doesn't sound good. Lol. Hopefully a bulb. The bow light and stern light weren't too hard to find. The stern light gave me a little hell because it's blue and green at the light and then spliced somewhere in between to a loose brown and white at under the sink. ....go figure!
And I hear ya Tom...I have to get power to behind the compass on the starboard side of the companion way. The wires are already up there if I could just find the other end of it! Lol...nothing behind the panel or under the port sink. I'll have a looksie upwards under the sink. May have missed that. If not I'll have to telephone pole it somehow. They have nice conduit that could hide stuff if need be, but I'm hoping to avoid that.
Jazz On Jan 29, 2016 9:36 AM, "Thomas Buzzi" <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks, Jerry, for that last statement. I used the existing wires wherever
possible but now if they don't work I will realize I may have drilled through one while mounting additional hardware. Any ideas on how to string new wires and attaching them to the fiberglass overhead and avoiding having them look like phone wires strung from pole to pole? Tom B <
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On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 11:24 AM, <jerry@jerrymontgomery.org> wrote:
Prior to re-tooling in 81 we laminated the wire in with frabbergrass to
several locations, including the bow and stern lights. After retooling
we
ran all wires from the switch panel, up the mast compression post and
put a
tricolor at the masthead and the cabin light right next to the post. Worked out great and much easier to work on. If I was messing around
with
an old boat, I'd just copy the new setup and forget about the embedded wires.
I know that a few of the embedded wires got drilled thru when installing aftermarket deck hardware.
-----Original Message----- From: swwheatley@comcast.net Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 8:23 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Where does this wire end?
My M17 (1976) had a wire like that (embedded in the cabin overhead). If I recall correctly, it ran forward to the aft edge of the forward hatch, followed that edge a bit and then emerged to be connected to a thru-deck connector in the vicinity of the mast step. In my case, I believe it was used for an anchor light.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jazzy" <jazzydaze@gmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 9:16:08 PM Subject: M_Boats: Where does this wire end?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/he3d0wj5fm3ayno/20160128_174720.jpg?dl=0
Your looking from the v berth out towards the companion way at the "ceiling" over the sink...the blue and green wire that feeds that little bus bar goes into the fiberglass there. I can't for the life of me find
the
other end. The little bus bar is unpowered at the moment and the
blue/green
feeds it. On a positive note...stern light is now working from panel for the first time in forever like the nav light! Whoohooo!
Jazz
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Agreed! I redid my Snipe trailer too many times until I found out about the glue shrink wrap stuff! Hoping to make use of what's all in there if I can. We'll see how it goes...no boat playing today. I went for an LED nav light today and the computers were down. Saved me some cash for a day atleast. Oh I have questions about safety equip...I'll post with that subject... Jazz On Jan 29, 2016 7:25 PM, "Thomas Buzzi" <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> wrote:
They also have heat shrink connectors that have heat activated glue inside the shrink sleeve which makes these things really watertight. My boat trailer uses them and they work great!
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On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 9:15 PM, John Schinnerer <john@eco-living.net> wrote:
If you're going to be in saltwater/coastal marine environment at all, use quality marine grade wire, heat-seal marine grade splices, connectors, plugs, etc. also. Yeah it costs more, but the quantities are small for little boats like ours, and, the troubleshooting and fixing you *won't* have to do in a year or two are worth it (unless you really like that kind of thing... :-).
cheers, John S.
On 01/29/2016 03:16 PM, Jazzy wrote:
Thanks Jerry! Love the Monty...my first real sailboat! I like the idea of the light by the compression post alot. And it makes sense to run it up that way for the mastlight which is my next project after the compass light. The mast light has one black wire up top, and the bottom of the mast shows two "speaker" type wires. Adding power didnt light it with alligater clips. Doesn't sound good. Lol. Hopefully a bulb. The bow light and stern light weren't too hard to find. The stern light gave me a little hell because it's blue and green at the light and then spliced somewhere in between to a loose brown and white at under the sink. ....go figure!
And I hear ya Tom...I have to get power to behind the compass on the starboard side of the companion way. The wires are already up there if I could just find the other end of it! Lol...nothing behind the panel or under the port sink. I'll have a looksie upwards under the sink. May have missed that. If not I'll have to telephone pole it somehow. They have nice conduit that could hide stuff if need be, but I'm hoping to avoid that.
Jazz On Jan 29, 2016 9:36 AM, "Thomas Buzzi" <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks, Jerry, for that last statement. I used the existing wires wherever
possible but now if they don't work I will realize I may have drilled through one while mounting additional hardware. Any ideas on how to string new wires and attaching them to the fiberglass overhead and avoiding having them look like phone wires strung from pole to pole? Tom B <
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On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 11:24 AM, <jerry@jerrymontgomery.org> wrote:
Prior to re-tooling in 81 we laminated the wire in with frabbergrass to
several locations, including the bow and stern lights. After
retooling
we
ran all wires from the switch panel, up the mast compression post and
put a
tricolor at the masthead and the cabin light right next to the post. Worked out great and much easier to work on. If I was messing around
with
an old boat, I'd just copy the new setup and forget about the embedded wires.
I know that a few of the embedded wires got drilled thru when installing aftermarket deck hardware.
-----Original Message----- From: swwheatley@comcast.net Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 8:23 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Where does this wire end?
My M17 (1976) had a wire like that (embedded in the cabin overhead). If I recall correctly, it ran forward to the aft edge of the forward hatch, followed that edge a bit and then emerged to be connected to a thru-deck connector in the vicinity of the mast step. In my case, I believe it was used for an anchor light.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jazzy" <jazzydaze@gmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 9:16:08 PM Subject: M_Boats: Where does this wire end?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/he3d0wj5fm3ayno/20160128_174720.jpg?dl=0
Your looking from the v berth out towards the companion way at the "ceiling" over the sink...the blue and green wire that feeds that little bus bar goes into the fiberglass there. I can't for the life of me find
the
other end. The little bus bar is unpowered at the moment and the
blue/green
feeds it. On a positive note...stern light is now working from panel for the first time in forever like the nav light! Whoohooo!
Jazz
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Sail--Boat (Break Out Another Thousand) On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 9:55 PM, Jazzy <jazzydaze@gmail.com> wrote:
Agreed! I redid my Snipe trailer too many times until I found out about the glue shrink wrap stuff! Hoping to make use of what's all in there if I can. We'll see how it goes...no boat playing today. I went for an LED nav light today and the computers were down. Saved me some cash for a day atleast.
Oh I have questions about safety equip...I'll post with that subject...
Jazz On Jan 29, 2016 7:25 PM, "Thomas Buzzi" <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> wrote:
They also have heat shrink connectors that have heat activated glue inside the shrink sleeve which makes these things really watertight. My boat trailer uses them and they work great!
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On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 9:15 PM, John Schinnerer <john@eco-living.net> wrote:
If you're going to be in saltwater/coastal marine environment at all, use quality marine grade wire, heat-seal marine grade splices, connectors, plugs, etc. also. Yeah it costs more, but the quantities are small for little boats like ours, and, the troubleshooting and fixing you *won't* have to do in a year or two are worth it (unless you really like that kind of thing... :-).
cheers, John S.
On 01/29/2016 03:16 PM, Jazzy wrote:
Thanks Jerry! Love the Monty...my first real sailboat! I like the idea of the light by the compression post alot. And it makes sense to run it up that way for the mastlight which is my next project after the compass light. The mast light has one black wire up top, and the bottom of the mast shows two "speaker" type wires. Adding power didnt light it with alligater clips. Doesn't sound good. Lol. Hopefully a bulb. The bow light and stern light weren't too hard to find. The stern light gave me a little hell because it's blue and green at the light and then spliced somewhere in between to a loose brown and white at under the sink. ....go figure!
And I hear ya Tom...I have to get power to behind the compass on the starboard side of the companion way. The wires are already up there if I could just find the other end of it! Lol...nothing behind the panel or under the port sink. I'll have a looksie upwards under the sink. May have missed that. If not I'll have to telephone pole it somehow. They have nice conduit that could hide stuff if need be, but I'm hoping to avoid that.
Jazz On Jan 29, 2016 9:36 AM, "Thomas Buzzi" <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks, Jerry, for that last statement. I used the existing wires wherever
possible but now if they don't work I will realize I may have drilled through one while mounting additional hardware. Any ideas on how to string new wires and attaching them to the fiberglass overhead and avoiding having them look like phone wires strung from pole to pole? Tom B <
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On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 11:24 AM, <jerry@jerrymontgomery.org> wrote:
Prior to re-tooling in 81 we laminated the wire in with frabbergrass
to
several locations, including the bow and stern lights. After retooling
we
ran all wires from the switch panel, up the mast compression post and
put a
tricolor at the masthead and the cabin light right next to the post. Worked out great and much easier to work on. If I was messing around
with
an old boat, I'd just copy the new setup and forget about the embedded wires.
I know that a few of the embedded wires got drilled thru when installing aftermarket deck hardware.
-----Original Message----- From: swwheatley@comcast.net Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 8:23 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Where does this wire end?
My M17 (1976) had a wire like that (embedded in the cabin overhead). If I recall correctly, it ran forward to the aft edge of the forward hatch, followed that edge a bit and then emerged to be connected to a thru-deck connector in the vicinity of the mast step. In my case, I believe it was used for an anchor light.
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From: "Jazzy" <jazzydaze@gmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 9:16:08 PM Subject: M_Boats: Where does this wire end?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/he3d0wj5fm3ayno/20160128_174720.jpg?dl=0
Your looking from the v berth out towards the companion way at the "ceiling" over the sink...the blue and green wire that feeds that little bus bar goes into the fiberglass there. I can't for the life of me find
the
other end. The little bus bar is unpowered at the moment and the
blue/green
feeds it. On a positive note...stern light is now working from panel for the first time in forever like the nav light! Whoohooo!
Jazz
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Man still no joy finding the end of the wire. I shrunk myself and climbed inside galley upside down and backwards...it's not there. Any other ideas where I might look? I really want to use it as it pokes out right where I need it to. Jazz On Jan 30, 2016 8:18 AM, "Thomas Buzzi" <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> wrote:
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On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 9:55 PM, Jazzy <jazzydaze@gmail.com> wrote:
Agreed! I redid my Snipe trailer too many times until I found out about the glue shrink wrap stuff! Hoping to make use of what's all in there if I can. We'll see how it goes...no boat playing today. I went for an LED nav light today and the computers were down. Saved me some cash for a day atleast.
Oh I have questions about safety equip...I'll post with that subject...
Jazz On Jan 29, 2016 7:25 PM, "Thomas Buzzi" <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> wrote:
They also have heat shrink connectors that have heat activated glue inside the shrink sleeve which makes these things really watertight. My boat trailer uses them and they work great!
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On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 9:15 PM, John Schinnerer <john@eco-living.net> wrote:
If you're going to be in saltwater/coastal marine environment at all, use quality marine grade wire, heat-seal marine grade splices, connectors, plugs, etc. also. Yeah it costs more, but the quantities are small for little boats like ours, and, the troubleshooting and fixing you *won't* have to do in a year or two are worth it (unless you really like that kind of thing... :-).
cheers, John S.
On 01/29/2016 03:16 PM, Jazzy wrote:
Thanks Jerry! Love the Monty...my first real sailboat! I like the idea of the light by the compression post alot. And it makes sense to run it up that way for the mastlight which is my next project after the compass light. The mast light has one black wire up top, and the bottom of the mast shows two "speaker" type wires. Adding power didnt light it with alligater clips. Doesn't sound good. Lol. Hopefully a bulb. The bow light and stern light weren't too hard to find. The stern light gave me a little hell because it's blue and green at the light and then spliced somewhere in between to a loose brown and white at under the sink. ....go figure!
And I hear ya Tom...I have to get power to behind the compass on the starboard side of the companion way. The wires are already up there if I could just find the other end of it! Lol...nothing behind the panel or under the port sink. I'll have a looksie upwards under the sink. May have missed that. If not I'll have to telephone pole it somehow. They have nice conduit that could hide stuff if need be, but I'm hoping to avoid that.
Jazz On Jan 29, 2016 9:36 AM, "Thomas Buzzi" <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks, Jerry, for that last statement. I used the existing wires wherever
possible but now if they don't work I will realize I may have drilled through one while mounting additional hardware. Any ideas on how to string new wires and attaching them to the fiberglass overhead and avoiding having them look like phone wires strung from pole to pole? Tom B <
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On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 11:24 AM, <jerry@jerrymontgomery.org>
wrote:
Prior to re-tooling in 81 we laminated the wire in with
frabbergrass to
> several locations, including the bow and stern lights. After retooling > we
> ran all wires from the switch panel, up the mast compression post and > put a
> tricolor at the masthead and the cabin light right next to the post. > Worked out great and much easier to work on. If I was messing around > with
> an old boat, I'd just copy the new setup and forget about the embedded > wires. > > I know that a few of the embedded wires got drilled thru when installing > aftermarket deck hardware. > > -----Original Message----- From: swwheatley@comcast.net > Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 8:23 AM > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Where does this wire end? > > My M17 (1976) had a wire like that (embedded in the cabin overhead). If > I > recall correctly, it ran forward to the aft edge of the forward hatch, > followed that edge a bit and then emerged to be connected to a thru-deck > connector in the vicinity of the mast step. In my case, I believe it was > used for an anchor light. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jazzy" <jazzydaze@gmail.com> > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" < > montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> > Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 9:16:08 PM > Subject: M_Boats: Where does this wire end? > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/he3d0wj5fm3ayno/20160128_174720.jpg?dl=0 > > Your looking from the v berth out towards the companion way at the > "ceiling" over the sink...the blue and green wire that feeds that little > bus bar goes into the fiberglass there. I can't for the life of me find > the
> other end. The little bus bar is unpowered at the moment and the > blue/green
> feeds it. On a positive note...stern light is now working from panel for > the first time in forever like the nav light! Whoohooo! > > Jazz > > > > >
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Jazz, It is there somewhere. It might be tied into another wire, say all cabin lights would be led to one wire for the circuit box. Use the continuity tester or a larger battery with a wire and bulb if you need more voltage. Sometimes the continuity tester barely lit even with a new battery in it. Make sure the wire ends you were probing were not corroded. That will mess up the current flow big time. Try checking circuits at night so you can make the inside of the boat dark easily. On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 5:31 PM, Jazzy <jazzydaze@gmail.com> wrote:
Man still no joy finding the end of the wire. I shrunk myself and climbed inside galley upside down and backwards...it's not there. Any other ideas where I might look? I really want to use it as it pokes out right where I need it to.
Jazz On Jan 30, 2016 8:18 AM, "Thomas Buzzi" <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> wrote:
Sail--Boat (Break Out Another Thousand)
On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 9:55 PM, Jazzy <jazzydaze@gmail.com> wrote:
Agreed! I redid my Snipe trailer too many times until I found out about the glue shrink wrap stuff! Hoping to make use of what's all in there if I can. We'll see how it goes...no boat playing today. I went for an LED nav light today and the computers were down. Saved me some cash for a day atleast.
Oh I have questions about safety equip...I'll post with that subject...
Jazz On Jan 29, 2016 7:25 PM, "Thomas Buzzi" <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> wrote:
They also have heat shrink connectors that have heat activated glue inside the shrink sleeve which makes these things really watertight. My boat trailer uses them and they work great!
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On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 9:15 PM, John Schinnerer < john@eco-living.net> wrote:
If you're going to be in saltwater/coastal marine environment at all, use quality marine grade wire, heat-seal marine grade splices, connectors, plugs, etc. also. Yeah it costs more, but the quantities are small for little boats like ours, and, the troubleshooting and fixing you *won't* have to do in a year or two are worth it (unless you really like that kind of thing... :-).
cheers, John S.
On 01/29/2016 03:16 PM, Jazzy wrote:
Thanks Jerry! Love the Monty...my first real sailboat! I like the idea of the light by the compression post alot. And it makes sense to run it up that way for the mastlight which is my next project after the compass light. The mast light has one black wire up top, and the bottom of the mast shows two "speaker" type wires. Adding power didnt light it with alligater clips. Doesn't sound good. Lol. Hopefully a bulb. The bow light and stern light weren't too hard to find. The stern light gave me a little hell because it's blue and green at the light and then spliced somewhere in between to a loose brown and white at under the sink. ....go figure!
And I hear ya Tom...I have to get power to behind the compass on the starboard side of the companion way. The wires are already up there if I could just find the other end of it! Lol...nothing behind the panel or under the port sink. I'll have a looksie upwards under the sink. May have missed that. If not I'll have to telephone pole it somehow. They have nice conduit that could hide stuff if need be, but I'm hoping to avoid that.
Jazz On Jan 29, 2016 9:36 AM, "Thomas Buzzi" <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks, Jerry, for that last statement. I used the existing wires wherever > possible but now if they don't work I will realize I may have drilled > through one while mounting additional hardware. > Any ideas on how to string new wires and attaching them to the fiberglass > overhead and avoiding having them look like phone wires strung from pole > to > pole? > Tom B > < > >
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> >> >> <#DDB4FAA8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 11:24 AM, <jerry@jerrymontgomery.org> wrote: > > Prior to re-tooling in 81 we laminated the wire in with frabbergrass to >> several locations, including the bow and stern lights. After retooling >> > we > >> ran all wires from the switch panel, up the mast compression post and >> > put a > >> tricolor at the masthead and the cabin light right next to the post. >> Worked out great and much easier to work on. If I was messing around >> > with > >> an old boat, I'd just copy the new setup and forget about the embedded >> wires. >> >> I know that a few of the embedded wires got drilled thru when installing >> aftermarket deck hardware. >> >> -----Original Message----- From: swwheatley@comcast.net >> Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 8:23 AM >> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats >> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Where does this wire end? >> >> My M17 (1976) had a wire like that (embedded in the cabin overhead). If >> I >> recall correctly, it ran forward to the aft edge of the forward hatch, >> followed that edge a bit and then emerged to be connected to a thru-deck >> connector in the vicinity of the mast step. In my case, I believe it was >> used for an anchor light. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Jazzy" <jazzydaze@gmail.com> >> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" < >> montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> >> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 9:16:08 PM >> Subject: M_Boats: Where does this wire end? >> >> https://www.dropbox.com/s/he3d0wj5fm3ayno/20160128_174720.jpg?dl=0 >> >> Your looking from the v berth out towards the companion way at the >> "ceiling" over the sink...the blue and green wire that feeds that little >> bus bar goes into the fiberglass there. I can't for the life of me find >> > the > >> other end. The little bus bar is unpowered at the moment and the >> > blue/green > >> feeds it. On a positive note...stern light is now working from panel for >> the first time in forever like the nav light! Whoohooo! >> >> Jazz >> >> >> >> >> > -- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design
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Jazzy, Does your boat have the galley on the port side just aft of the v-berth? My 1977 model does. While digging around for wires to use that are embedded in the fiberglass layup at the factory I found several that were bunched underneath the galley. I had to lie on my back, folded double on the cabin floor to peer up and under the sink when I discovered them. All my wires led to a small busbar on the port side aft of the sink accessible from the cockpit portside locker. Not a handy set up. I have since moved all the wiring to the more conventional layout of on the bulkhead at the foot of the v-berth. Good luck with your hunting. I assume you have one of those auto circuit tracers which come with a battery in the handle, a wire at one end with an alligator clip and a sharp probe at the other end. It is a continuity tester and is useful for figuring out which wire popping out of where goes to what. Tom B <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> This email has been sent from a virus-free computer protected by Avast. www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> <#DDB4FAA8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 8:16 PM, Jazzy <jazzydaze@gmail.com> wrote:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/he3d0wj5fm3ayno/20160128_174720.jpg?dl=0
Your looking from the v berth out towards the companion way at the "ceiling" over the sink...the blue and green wire that feeds that little bus bar goes into the fiberglass there. I can't for the life of me find the other end. The little bus bar is unpowered at the moment and the blue/green feeds it. On a positive note...stern light is now working from panel for the first time in forever like the nav light! Whoohooo!
Jazz
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Thomas Buzzi