Cleaning the hull with rubbing compound
Montypals: Man, my Monty has lots of oxidation. It has been neglected while I build my SCAMP. So, I want to rub out the hull, but I have never done it. Should I do it by hand, or use some kind of buffing machine? I think the laps will get in the way. Thoughts? Daniel Rich M15 #208 "Kestrel" danielgrich@gmail.com
Daniel I like these 2 products that we use. (google) Aqua Buff 1000. (Cutting) Aqua Buff 2000 (finishing) Yes a machine . In the final stage we add some yellow wax to the Aqua Buff 2000 to shine It up like new Be well Bob Sent from my iPad
On Apr 30, 2017, at 8:59 PM, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> wrote:
Montypals:
Man, my Monty has lots of oxidation. It has been neglected while I build my SCAMP.
So, I want to rub out the hull, but I have never done it. Should I do it by hand, or use some kind of buffing machine? I think the laps will get in the way. Thoughts?
Daniel Rich M15 #208 "Kestrel" danielgrich@gmail.com
Thanks for the quick response Bob! OK, I will check them out. Can I get away with a buffing pad on my portable drill, or do I need an edge grinder or something else? Daniel
On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:15 PM, Bob Eeg <montgomeryboats@hotmail.com> wrote:
Daniel
I like these 2 products that we use.
(google)
Aqua Buff 1000. (Cutting) Aqua Buff 2000 (finishing)
Yes a machine . In the final stage we add some yellow wax to the Aqua Buff 2000 to shine It up like new
Be well Bob
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 30, 2017, at 8:59 PM, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> wrote:
Montypals:
Man, my Monty has lots of oxidation. It has been neglected while I build my SCAMP.
So, I want to rub out the hull, but I have never done it. Should I do it by hand, or use some kind of buffing machine? I think the laps will get in the way. Thoughts?
Daniel Rich M15 #208 "Kestrel" danielgrich@gmail.com
Get a proper buffer with a large pad. Worth the $39 bucks. Blue tape the teak And go to work. Sent from my iPad
On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:17 PM, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for the quick response Bob!
OK, I will check them out. Can I get away with a buffing pad on my portable drill, or do I need an edge grinder or something else?
Daniel
On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:15 PM, Bob Eeg <montgomeryboats@hotmail.com> wrote:
Daniel
I like these 2 products that we use.
(google)
Aqua Buff 1000. (Cutting) Aqua Buff 2000 (finishing)
Yes a machine . In the final stage we add some yellow wax to the Aqua Buff 2000 to shine It up like new
Be well Bob
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 30, 2017, at 8:59 PM, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> wrote:
Montypals:
Man, my Monty has lots of oxidation. It has been neglected while I build my SCAMP.
So, I want to rub out the hull, but I have never done it. Should I do it by hand, or use some kind of buffing machine? I think the laps will get in the way. Thoughts?
Daniel Rich M15 #208 "Kestrel" danielgrich@gmail.com
OK, makes sense. Looks like something like this could work… https://smile.amazon.com/Black-Decker-WP900-6-Inch-Polisher/dp/B000077CPT/re... <https://smile.amazon.com/Black-Decker-WP900-6-Inch-Polisher/dp/B000077CPT/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1493612482&sr=8-1&keywords=buffer> Daniel
On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:20 PM, Bob Eeg <montgomeryboats@hotmail.com> wrote:
Get a proper buffer with a large pad. Worth the $39 bucks. Blue tape the teak And go to work.
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:17 PM, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for the quick response Bob!
OK, I will check them out. Can I get away with a buffing pad on my portable drill, or do I need an edge grinder or something else?
Daniel
On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:15 PM, Bob Eeg <montgomeryboats@hotmail.com> wrote:
Daniel
I like these 2 products that we use.
(google)
Aqua Buff 1000. (Cutting) Aqua Buff 2000 (finishing)
Yes a machine . In the final stage we add some yellow wax to the Aqua Buff 2000 to shine It up like new
Be well Bob
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 30, 2017, at 8:59 PM, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> wrote:
Montypals:
Man, my Monty has lots of oxidation. It has been neglected while I build my SCAMP.
So, I want to rub out the hull, but I have never done it. Should I do it by hand, or use some kind of buffing machine? I think the laps will get in the way. Thoughts?
Daniel Rich M15 #208 "Kestrel" danielgrich@gmail.com
Also get an old windex to mist some water on the compound. Do a large section at a time. It cuts fast and doesn't take long. Sent from my iPad
On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:17 PM, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for the quick response Bob!
OK, I will check them out. Can I get away with a buffing pad on my portable drill, or do I need an edge grinder or something else?
Daniel
On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:15 PM, Bob Eeg <montgomeryboats@hotmail.com> wrote:
Daniel
I like these 2 products that we use.
(google)
Aqua Buff 1000. (Cutting) Aqua Buff 2000 (finishing)
Yes a machine . In the final stage we add some yellow wax to the Aqua Buff 2000 to shine It up like new
Be well Bob
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 30, 2017, at 8:59 PM, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> wrote:
Montypals:
Man, my Monty has lots of oxidation. It has been neglected while I build my SCAMP.
So, I want to rub out the hull, but I have never done it. Should I do it by hand, or use some kind of buffing machine? I think the laps will get in the way. Thoughts?
Daniel Rich M15 #208 "Kestrel" danielgrich@gmail.com
This is good to know. My Monty needs some TLC. Now, what about the teak? A total mess. Should I scrape with a cabinet scraper? Daniel
On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:23 PM, Bob Eeg <montgomeryboats@hotmail.com> wrote:
Also get an old windex to mist some water on the compound. Do a large section at a time. It cuts fast and doesn't take long.
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:17 PM, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for the quick response Bob!
OK, I will check them out. Can I get away with a buffing pad on my portable drill, or do I need an edge grinder or something else?
Daniel
On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:15 PM, Bob Eeg <montgomeryboats@hotmail.com> wrote:
Daniel
I like these 2 products that we use.
(google)
Aqua Buff 1000. (Cutting) Aqua Buff 2000 (finishing)
Yes a machine . In the final stage we add some yellow wax to the Aqua Buff 2000 to shine It up like new
Be well Bob
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 30, 2017, at 8:59 PM, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> wrote:
Montypals:
Man, my Monty has lots of oxidation. It has been neglected while I build my SCAMP.
So, I want to rub out the hull, but I have never done it. Should I do it by hand, or use some kind of buffing machine? I think the laps will get in the way. Thoughts?
Daniel Rich M15 #208 "Kestrel" danielgrich@gmail.com
Not a fan of a sponge try to get a rotating rug. Held on with Velcro. Teak https://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid=9118 Sent from my iPad On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:24 PM, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>> wrote: This is good to know. My Monty needs some TLC. Now, what about the teak? A total mess. Should I scrape with a cabinet scraper? Daniel On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:23 PM, Bob Eeg <montgomeryboats@hotmail.com<mailto:montgomeryboats@hotmail.com>> wrote: Also get an old windex to mist some water on the compound. Do a large section at a time. It cuts fast and doesn't take long. Sent from my iPad On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:17 PM, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>> wrote: Thanks for the quick response Bob! OK, I will check them out. Can I get away with a buffing pad on my portable drill, or do I need an edge grinder or something else? Daniel On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:15 PM, Bob Eeg <montgomeryboats@hotmail.com<mailto:montgomeryboats@hotmail.com>> wrote: Daniel I like these 2 products that we use. (google) Aqua Buff 1000. (Cutting) Aqua Buff 2000 (finishing) Yes a machine . In the final stage we add some yellow wax to the Aqua Buff 2000 to shine It up like new Be well Bob Sent from my iPad On Apr 30, 2017, at 8:59 PM, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>> wrote: Montypals: Man, my Monty has lots of oxidation. It has been neglected while I build my SCAMP. So, I want to rub out the hull, but I have never done it. Should I do it by hand, or use some kind of buffing machine? I think the laps will get in the way. Thoughts? Daniel Rich M15 #208 "Kestrel" danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>
I will check that out. The teak has something on it like Cetol. Peeling off. So, I think I need some sort of mechanical removal of it. Maybe I will just have to sand it. Daniel
On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:28 PM, Bob Eeg <montgomeryboats@hotmail.com> wrote:
Not a fan of a sponge try to get a rotating rug. Held on with Velcro.
Teak https://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid=9118
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:24 PM, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>> wrote:
This is good to know. My Monty needs some TLC.
Now, what about the teak? A total mess. Should I scrape with a cabinet scraper?
Daniel On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:23 PM, Bob Eeg <montgomeryboats@hotmail.com<mailto:montgomeryboats@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Also get an old windex to mist some water on the compound. Do a large section at a time. It cuts fast and doesn't take long.
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:17 PM, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>> wrote:
Thanks for the quick response Bob!
OK, I will check them out. Can I get away with a buffing pad on my portable drill, or do I need an edge grinder or something else?
Daniel On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:15 PM, Bob Eeg <montgomeryboats@hotmail.com<mailto:montgomeryboats@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Daniel
I like these 2 products that we use.
(google)
Aqua Buff 1000. (Cutting) Aqua Buff 2000 (finishing)
Yes a machine . In the final stage we add some yellow wax to the Aqua Buff 2000 to shine It up like new
Be well Bob
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 30, 2017, at 8:59 PM, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>> wrote:
Montypals:
Man, my Monty has lots of oxidation. It has been neglected while I build my SCAMP.
So, I want to rub out the hull, but I have never done it. Should I do it by hand, or use some kind of buffing machine? I think the laps will get in the way. Thoughts?
Daniel Rich M15 #208 "Kestrel" danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>
I'm about finished re-doing all the exterior wood on my M17. It was varnished with something rather thick and Cetol-colored, sort of, peeling in the most exposed places, solid in the protected places. I have aluminum toe rails so the only exterior wood is hatch ribs, hatch sliders, companionway board holders, and cabin top hand rails. This is all done with pieces removed from boat. So no risk of stripper chemical messing with other materials. I've been using a regular stripping chemical - Kleen-Strip I think is the brand I bought. That takes a lot of the elbow grease out of getting most of it off. May take a few passes for the thickly coated parts (if yours is like mine). First pass gets most of it; second pass gets the thicker parts the first pass didn't penetrate to. And still some manual scraping and/or wire-brushing. I am re-finishing with teak oil. After stripping and sanding: 2 applications Daly's Seafil Ship-n-Shore sealer. 5 applications Daly's Seafin teak oil. Have done all but the cabin top handrails - those are just about stripped. The rest are finished and back on the boat. Comes out looking really great. cheers, John S. On 04/30/2017 09:49 PM, Daniel Rich wrote:
I will check that out.
The teak has something on it like Cetol. Peeling off. So, I think I need some sort of mechanical removal of it. Maybe I will just have to sand it.
Daniel
On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:28 PM, Bob Eeg <montgomeryboats@hotmail.com> wrote:
Not a fan of a sponge try to get a rotating rug. Held on with Velcro.
Teak https://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid=9118
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:24 PM, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>> wrote:
This is good to know. My Monty needs some TLC.
Now, what about the teak? A total mess. Should I scrape with a cabinet scraper?
Daniel On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:23 PM, Bob Eeg <montgomeryboats@hotmail.com<mailto:montgomeryboats@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Also get an old windex to mist some water on the compound. Do a large section at a time. It cuts fast and doesn't take long.
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:17 PM, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>> wrote:
Thanks for the quick response Bob!
OK, I will check them out. Can I get away with a buffing pad on my portable drill, or do I need an edge grinder or something else?
Daniel On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:15 PM, Bob Eeg <montgomeryboats@hotmail.com<mailto:montgomeryboats@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Daniel
I like these 2 products that we use.
(google)
Aqua Buff 1000. (Cutting) Aqua Buff 2000 (finishing)
Yes a machine . In the final stage we add some yellow wax to the Aqua Buff 2000 to shine It up like new
Be well Bob
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 30, 2017, at 8:59 PM, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>> wrote:
Montypals:
Man, my Monty has lots of oxidation. It has been neglected while I build my SCAMP.
So, I want to rub out the hull, but I have never done it. Should I do it by hand, or use some kind of buffing machine? I think the laps will get in the way. Thoughts?
Daniel Rich M15 #208 "Kestrel" danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>
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Best way to strip an old finish is a heat gun and a good scraper like a Bahco/Sandvik.
On May 1, 2017 at 12:49 AM Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> wrote:
I will check that out.
The teak has something on it like Cetol. Peeling off. So, I think I need some sort of mechanical removal of it. Maybe I will just have to sand it.
Daniel
> >
On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:28 PM, Bob Eeg <montgomeryboats@hotmail.com> wrote:
Not a fan of a sponge try to get a rotating rug. Held on with Velcro.
Teak https://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid=9118
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:24 PM, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>> wrote:
This is good to know. My Monty needs some TLC.
Now, what about the teak? A total mess. Should I scrape with a cabinet scraper?
Daniel On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:23 PM, Bob Eeg <montgomeryboats@hotmail.com<mailto:montgomeryboats@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Also get an old windex to mist some water on the compound. Do a large section at a time. It cuts fast and doesn't take long.
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:17 PM, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>> wrote:
Thanks for the quick response Bob!
OK, I will check them out. Can I get away with a buffing pad on my portable drill, or do I need an edge grinder or something else?
Daniel On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:15 PM, Bob Eeg <montgomeryboats@hotmail.com<mailto:montgomeryboats@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Daniel
I like these 2 products that we use.
(google)
Aqua Buff 1000. (Cutting) Aqua Buff 2000 (finishing)
Yes a machine . In the final stage we add some yellow wax to the Aqua Buff 2000 to shine It up like new
Be well Bob
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 30, 2017, at 8:59 PM, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>> wrote:
Montypals:
Man, my Monty has lots of oxidation. It has been neglected while I build my SCAMP.
So, I want to rub out the hull, but I have never done it. Should I do it by hand, or use some kind of buffing machine? I think the laps will get in the way. Thoughts?
Daniel Rich M15 #208 "Kestrel" danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>
>
If you take the teak off the boat it will be a LOT easier to deal with. Most old teak needs to be rebedded anyway. Don't know what happened to my email about "New Glass 2" but that is what I used and it was very easy to get a magnificent, long lasting shine! I don't sell the stuff but I certainly will use it again when that becomes necessary. On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 10:46 AM, STANLEY WHEATLEY <swwheatley@comcast.net> wrote:
Best way to strip an old finish is a heat gun and a good scraper like a Bahco/Sandvik.
On May 1, 2017 at 12:49 AM Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com>
wrote:
I will check that out.
The teak has something on it like Cetol. Peeling off. So, I think I
need some sort of mechanical removal of it. Maybe I will just have to sand it.
Daniel
> >
On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:28 PM, Bob Eeg <
montgomeryboats@hotmail.com> wrote:
Not a fan of a sponge try to get a rotating rug. Held on with
Velcro.
userportal/show_product.do?pid=9118
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:24 PM, Daniel Rich <
danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>> wrote:
This is good to know. My Monty needs some TLC.
Now, what about the teak? A total mess. Should I scrape with a
cabinet scraper?
Daniel On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:23 PM, Bob Eeg <
montgomeryboats@hotmail.com<mailto:montgomeryboats@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Also get an old windex to mist some water on the compound. Do
a large section at a time. It cuts fast and doesn't take long.
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:17 PM, Daniel Rich <
danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>> wrote:
Thanks for the quick response Bob!
OK, I will check them out. Can I get away with a buffing pad
on my portable drill, or do I need an edge grinder or something else?
Daniel On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:15 PM, Bob Eeg <
montgomeryboats@hotmail.com<mailto:montgomeryboats@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Daniel
I like these 2 products that we use.
(google)
Aqua Buff 1000. (Cutting) Aqua Buff 2000 (finishing)
Yes a machine . In the final stage we add some yellow wax to the Aqua Buff
2000 to shine
It up like new
Be well Bob
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 30, 2017, at 8:59 PM, Daniel Rich <
danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>> wrote:
Montypals:
Man, my Monty has lots of oxidation. It has been neglected
while I build my SCAMP.
So, I want to rub out the hull, but I have never done it.
Should I do it by hand, or use some kind of buffing machine? I think the laps will get in the way. Thoughts?
Daniel Rich M15 #208 "Kestrel" danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>
>
Well, getting the toe rails off will be a pain. I will probably do it in place. I may regret it. Daniel On 5/1/2017 10:05 AM, Thomas Buzzi wrote:
If you take the teak off the boat it will be a LOT easier to deal with. Most old teak needs to be rebedded anyway. Don't know what happened to my email about "New Glass 2" but that is what I used and it was very easy to get a magnificent, long lasting shine! I don't sell the stuff but I certainly will use it again when that becomes necessary.
On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 10:46 AM, STANLEY WHEATLEY <swwheatley@comcast.net> wrote:
Best way to strip an old finish is a heat gun and a good scraper like a Bahco/Sandvik.
On May 1, 2017 at 12:49 AM Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com>
wrote:
I will check that out.
The teak has something on it like Cetol. Peeling off. So, I think I
need some sort of mechanical removal of it. Maybe I will just have to sand it.
Daniel
> >
On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:28 PM, Bob Eeg <
montgomeryboats@hotmail.com> wrote:
Not a fan of a sponge try to get a rotating rug. Held on with
Velcro.
userportal/show_product.do?pid=9118
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:24 PM, Daniel Rich <
danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>> wrote:
This is good to know. My Monty needs some TLC.
Now, what about the teak? A total mess. Should I scrape with a
cabinet scraper?
Daniel On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:23 PM, Bob Eeg <
montgomeryboats@hotmail.com<mailto:montgomeryboats@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Also get an old windex to mist some water on the compound. Do
a large section at a time. It cuts fast and doesn't take long.
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:17 PM, Daniel Rich <
danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>> wrote:
Thanks for the quick response Bob!
OK, I will check them out. Can I get away with a buffing pad
on my portable drill, or do I need an edge grinder or something else?
Daniel On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:15 PM, Bob Eeg <
montgomeryboats@hotmail.com<mailto:montgomeryboats@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Daniel
I like these 2 products that we use.
(google)
Aqua Buff 1000. (Cutting) Aqua Buff 2000 (finishing)
Yes a machine . In the final stage we add some yellow wax to the Aqua Buff
2000 to shine
It up like new
Be well Bob
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 30, 2017, at 8:59 PM, Daniel Rich <
danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>> wrote:
Montypals:
Man, my Monty has lots of oxidation. It has been neglected
while I build my SCAMP.
So, I want to rub out the hull, but I have never done it.
Should I do it by hand, or use some kind of buffing machine? I think the laps will get in the way. Thoughts?
Daniel Rich M15 #208 "Kestrel" danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>
>
True, I was referring more to the hatch slides and hand rails. etc. My 1977 has the metal, perforated toe rails. I did take those off and filled any fissures between the deck and the hull in that joint to make sure I didn't get any weeping leaks from there. On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 12:09 PM, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> wrote:
Well, getting the toe rails off will be a pain. I will probably do it in place. I may regret it.
Daniel
On 5/1/2017 10:05 AM, Thomas Buzzi wrote:
If you take the teak off the boat it will be a LOT easier to deal with. Most old teak needs to be rebedded anyway. Don't know what happened to my email about "New Glass 2" but that is what I used and it was very easy to get a magnificent, long lasting shine! I don't sell the stuff but I certainly will use it again when that becomes necessary.
On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 10:46 AM, STANLEY WHEATLEY <swwheatley@comcast.net
wrote:
Best way to strip an old finish is a heat gun and a good scraper like a
Bahco/Sandvik.
On May 1, 2017 at 12:49 AM Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com>
wrote:
I will check that out.
The teak has something on it like Cetol. Peeling off. So, I think I
need some sort of mechanical removal of it. Maybe I will just have to sand it.
Daniel
> >
On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:28 PM, Bob Eeg <
montgomeryboats@hotmail.com> wrote:
Not a fan of a sponge try to get a rotating rug. Held on with
Velcro.
Teak
userportal/show_product.do?pid=9118
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:24 PM, Daniel Rich <
danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>> wrote:
This is good to know. My Monty needs some TLC.
Now, what about the teak? A total mess. Should I scrape with a
cabinet scraper?
Daniel
On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:23 PM, Bob Eeg <
montgomeryboats@hotmail.com<mailto:montgomeryboats@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Also get an old windex to mist some water on the compound. Do
a large section at a time. It cuts fast and doesn't take long.
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:17 PM, Daniel Rich <
danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>> wrote:
Thanks for the quick response Bob!
OK, I will check them out. Can I get away with a buffing pad
on my portable drill, or do I need an edge grinder or something else?
Daniel
On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:15 PM, Bob Eeg <
montgomeryboats@hotmail.com<mailto:montgomeryboats@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Daniel
I like these 2 products that we use.
(google)
Aqua Buff 1000. (Cutting) Aqua Buff 2000 (finishing)
Yes a machine . In the final stage we add some yellow wax to the Aqua Buff
2000 to shine
It up like new
Be well Bob
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 30, 2017, at 8:59 PM, Daniel Rich <
danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>> wrote:
Montypals:
Man, my Monty has lots of oxidation. It has been neglected
while I build my SCAMP.
So, I want to rub out the hull, but I have never done it.
Should I do it by hand, or use some kind of buffing machine? I think the
laps will get in the way. Thoughts?
Daniel Rich
M15 #208 "Kestrel" danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>
>
I agree with Tom but removing the toe rails would require popping out the teak plugs. And replacing them with new plugs. Not a big deal but more work. Some plugs won't come out perfectly and you end up chipping the radius. Bob Sent from my iPad
On May 1, 2017, at 10:10 AM, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> wrote:
Well, getting the toe rails off will be a pain. I will probably do it in place. I may regret it.
Daniel
On 5/1/2017 10:05 AM, Thomas Buzzi wrote: If you take the teak off the boat it will be a LOT easier to deal with. Most old teak needs to be rebedded anyway. Don't know what happened to my email about "New Glass 2" but that is what I used and it was very easy to get a magnificent, long lasting shine! I don't sell the stuff but I certainly will use it again when that becomes necessary.
On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 10:46 AM, STANLEY WHEATLEY <swwheatley@comcast.net> wrote:
Best way to strip an old finish is a heat gun and a good scraper like a Bahco/Sandvik.
On May 1, 2017 at 12:49 AM Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com>
wrote:
I will check that out.
The teak has something on it like Cetol. Peeling off. So, I think I
need some sort of mechanical removal of it. Maybe I will just have to sand it.
Daniel
> >
On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:28 PM, Bob Eeg <
montgomeryboats@hotmail.com> wrote:
Not a fan of a sponge try to get a rotating rug. Held on with
Velcro.
userportal/show_product.do?pid=9118
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:24 PM, Daniel Rich <
danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>> wrote:
This is good to know. My Monty needs some TLC.
Now, what about the teak? A total mess. Should I scrape with a
cabinet scraper?
Daniel On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:23 PM, Bob Eeg <
montgomeryboats@hotmail.com<mailto:montgomeryboats@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Also get an old windex to mist some water on the compound. Do
a large section at a time. It cuts fast and doesn't take long.
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:17 PM, Daniel Rich <
danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>> wrote:
Thanks for the quick response Bob!
OK, I will check them out. Can I get away with a buffing pad
on my portable drill, or do I need an edge grinder or something else?
Daniel On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:15 PM, Bob Eeg <
montgomeryboats@hotmail.com<mailto:montgomeryboats@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Daniel
I like these 2 products that we use.
(google)
Aqua Buff 1000. (Cutting) Aqua Buff 2000 (finishing)
Yes a machine . In the final stage we add some yellow wax to the Aqua Buff
2000 to shine
It up like new
Be well Bob
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 30, 2017, at 8:59 PM, Daniel Rich <
danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>> wrote:
Montypals:
Man, my Monty has lots of oxidation. It has been neglected
while I build my SCAMP.
So, I want to rub out the hull, but I have never done it.
Should I do it by hand, or use some kind of buffing machine? I think the laps will get in the way. Thoughts?
Daniel Rich M15 #208 "Kestrel" danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>
>
Well, not looking for a yacht quality job, so I will give it a go on the boat. Daniel On 5/1/2017 10:14 AM, Bob Eeg wrote:
I agree with Tom but removing the toe rails would require popping out the teak plugs.
And replacing them with new plugs. Not a big deal but more work. Some plugs won't come out perfectly and you end up chipping the radius.
Bob
Sent from my iPad
On May 1, 2017, at 10:10 AM, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> wrote:
Well, getting the toe rails off will be a pain. I will probably do it in place. I may regret it.
Daniel
On 5/1/2017 10:05 AM, Thomas Buzzi wrote: If you take the teak off the boat it will be a LOT easier to deal with. Most old teak needs to be rebedded anyway. Don't know what happened to my email about "New Glass 2" but that is what I used and it was very easy to get a magnificent, long lasting shine! I don't sell the stuff but I certainly will use it again when that becomes necessary.
On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 10:46 AM, STANLEY WHEATLEY <swwheatley@comcast.net> wrote:
Best way to strip an old finish is a heat gun and a good scraper like a Bahco/Sandvik.
On May 1, 2017 at 12:49 AM Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com>
wrote:
I will check that out.
The teak has something on it like Cetol. Peeling off. So, I think I
need some sort of mechanical removal of it. Maybe I will just have to sand it.
Daniel
> >
On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:28 PM, Bob Eeg <
montgomeryboats@hotmail.com> wrote:
Not a fan of a sponge try to get a rotating rug. Held on with
Velcro.
userportal/show_product.do?pid=9118
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:24 PM, Daniel Rich <
danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>> wrote:
This is good to know. My Monty needs some TLC.
Now, what about the teak? A total mess. Should I scrape with a
cabinet scraper?
Daniel On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:23 PM, Bob Eeg <
montgomeryboats@hotmail.com<mailto:montgomeryboats@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Also get an old windex to mist some water on the compound. Do
a large section at a time. It cuts fast and doesn't take long.
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:17 PM, Daniel Rich <
danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>> wrote:
Thanks for the quick response Bob!
OK, I will check them out. Can I get away with a buffing pad
on my portable drill, or do I need an edge grinder or something else?
Daniel On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:15 PM, Bob Eeg <
montgomeryboats@hotmail.com<mailto:montgomeryboats@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Daniel
I like these 2 products that we use.
(google)
Aqua Buff 1000. (Cutting) Aqua Buff 2000 (finishing)
Yes a machine . In the final stage we add some yellow wax to the Aqua Buff
2000 to shine
It up like new
Be well Bob
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 30, 2017, at 8:59 PM, Daniel Rich <
danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>> wrote:
Montypals:
Man, my Monty has lots of oxidation. It has been neglected
while I build my SCAMP.
So, I want to rub out the hull, but I have never done it.
Should I do it by hand, or use some kind of buffing machine? I think the laps will get in the way. Thoughts?
Daniel Rich M15 #208 "Kestrel" danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>
>
If you mask off the rails with painter's (masking) tape to protect the deck, you could probably use a chemical stripper on the wood finish without risking the gelcoat & fiberglass. Read the stripper's warnings carefully though! I'm using "Klean-Strip" premium stripper and it says don't use on linoleum, rubber, fiberglass, a handful of other synthetic surfaces. And I'm working with the removable wood pieces so no risk. It sure does cut way down on the elbow grease of scraping to use the strippers where possible. Most of the finish peels of relatively easily. If there are thick spots that it doesn't penetrate the first time around, just hit those with a second round after scraping off all the easier parts. cheers, John S. On 05/01/2017 10:35 AM, Daniel Rich wrote:
Well, not looking for a yacht quality job, so I will give it a go on the boat.
Daniel
On 5/1/2017 10:14 AM, Bob Eeg wrote:
I agree with Tom but removing the toe rails would require popping out the teak plugs.
And replacing them with new plugs. Not a big deal but more work. Some plugs won't come out perfectly and you end up chipping the radius.
Bob
Sent from my iPad
On May 1, 2017, at 10:10 AM, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> wrote:
Well, getting the toe rails off will be a pain. I will probably do it in place. I may regret it.
Daniel
On 5/1/2017 10:05 AM, Thomas Buzzi wrote: If you take the teak off the boat it will be a LOT easier to deal with. Most old teak needs to be rebedded anyway. Don't know what happened to my email about "New Glass 2" but that is what I used and it was very easy to get a magnificent, long lasting shine! I don't sell the stuff but I certainly will use it again when that becomes necessary.
On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 10:46 AM, STANLEY WHEATLEY <swwheatley@comcast.net> wrote:
Best way to strip an old finish is a heat gun and a good scraper like a Bahco/Sandvik.
On May 1, 2017 at 12:49 AM Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com>
wrote:
I will check that out.
The teak has something on it like Cetol. Peeling off. So, I think I
need some sort of mechanical removal of it. Maybe I will just have to sand it.
Daniel
> > > On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:28 PM, Bob Eeg <
montgomeryboats@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Not a fan of a sponge try to get a rotating rug. Held on > with Velcro. > Teak > https://www.jamestowndistributors.com/ userportal/show_product.do?pid=9118 > Sent from my iPad > > On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:24 PM, Daniel Rich < danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>> wrote: > This is good to know. My Monty needs some TLC. > > Now, what about the teak? A total mess. Should I scrape > with a cabinet scraper? > Daniel > On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:23 PM, Bob Eeg < montgomeryboats@hotmail.com<mailto:montgomeryboats@hotmail.com>> wrote: > Also get an old windex to mist some water on the > compound. Do a large section at a time. It cuts fast and doesn't take long. > Sent from my iPad > > On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:17 PM, Daniel Rich < danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>> wrote: > Thanks for the quick response Bob! > > OK, I will check them out. Can I get away with a buffing > pad on my portable drill, or do I need an edge grinder or something else? > Daniel > On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:15 PM, Bob Eeg < montgomeryboats@hotmail.com<mailto:montgomeryboats@hotmail.com>> wrote: > Daniel > > I like these 2 products that we use. > > (google) > > Aqua Buff 1000. (Cutting) > Aqua Buff 2000 (finishing) > > Yes a machine . > In the final stage we add some yellow wax to the Aqua Buff 2000 to shine > It up like new > > Be well > Bob > > Sent from my iPad > > On Apr 30, 2017, at 8:59 PM, Daniel Rich < danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>> wrote: > Montypals: > > Man, my Monty has lots of oxidation. It has been neglected while I build my SCAMP. > So, I want to rub out the hull, but I have never done it. Should I do it by hand, or use some kind of buffing machine? I think the laps will get in the way. Thoughts? > Daniel Rich > M15 #208 "Kestrel" > danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com> > > >
-- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john@eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com
I used a citrus stripper which was great on bottom paint. Worth a try on the bright work. It is water soluble and I don't think it harms other surfaces. When it allowed me to squeegee off the bottom paint there was no discernible damage to the gelcoat. On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 2:52 PM, John Schinnerer <john@eco-living.net> wrote:
If you mask off the rails with painter's (masking) tape to protect the deck, you could probably use a chemical stripper on the wood finish without risking the gelcoat & fiberglass. Read the stripper's warnings carefully though! I'm using "Klean-Strip" premium stripper and it says don't use on linoleum, rubber, fiberglass, a handful of other synthetic surfaces. And I'm working with the removable wood pieces so no risk.
It sure does cut way down on the elbow grease of scraping to use the strippers where possible. Most of the finish peels of relatively easily. If there are thick spots that it doesn't penetrate the first time around, just hit those with a second round after scraping off all the easier parts.
cheers, John S.
On 05/01/2017 10:35 AM, Daniel Rich wrote:
Well, not looking for a yacht quality job, so I will give it a go on the boat.
Daniel
On 5/1/2017 10:14 AM, Bob Eeg wrote:
I agree with Tom but removing the toe rails would require popping out the teak plugs.
And replacing them with new plugs. Not a big deal but more work. Some plugs won't come out perfectly and you end up chipping the radius.
Bob
Sent from my iPad
On May 1, 2017, at 10:10 AM, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> wrote:
Well, getting the toe rails off will be a pain. I will probably do it in place. I may regret it.
Daniel
On 5/1/2017 10:05 AM, Thomas Buzzi wrote:
If you take the teak off the boat it will be a LOT easier to deal with. Most old teak needs to be rebedded anyway. Don't know what happened to my email about "New Glass 2" but that is what I used and it was very easy to get a magnificent, long lasting shine! I don't sell the stuff but I certainly will use it again when that becomes necessary.
On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 10:46 AM, STANLEY WHEATLEY <swwheatley@comcast.net> wrote:
Best way to strip an old finish is a heat gun and a good scraper
like a Bahco/Sandvik.
On May 1, 2017 at 12:49 AM Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> > wrote:
> I will check that out. > > The teak has something on it like Cetol. Peeling off. So, I > think I > need some sort of mechanical removal of it. Maybe I will just have to sand it.
> Daniel > > > > > >> On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:28 PM, Bob Eeg < >> > montgomeryboats@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Not a fan of a sponge try to get a rotating rug. Held on >> with >> > Velcro.
> Teak >> https://www.jamestowndistributors.com/ >> > userportal/show_product.do?pid=9118
> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:24 PM, Daniel Rich < >> > danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>> wrote:
> This is good to know. My Monty needs some TLC. >> >> Now, what about the teak? A total mess. Should I scrape >> with a >> > cabinet scraper?
> Daniel >> On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:23 PM, Bob Eeg < >> > montgomeryboats@hotmail.com<mailto:montgomeryboats@hotmail.com>> wrote:
> Also get an old windex to mist some water on the >> compound. Do >> > a large section at a time. It cuts fast and doesn't take long.
> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:17 PM, Daniel Rich < >> > danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Thanks for the quick response Bob! >> >> OK, I will check them out. Can I get away with a buffing >> pad >> > on my portable drill, or do I need an edge grinder or something else?
> Daniel >> On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:15 PM, Bob Eeg < >> > montgomeryboats@hotmail.com<mailto:montgomeryboats@hotmail.com>> wrote:
> Daniel >> >> I like these 2 products that we use. >> >> (google) >> >> Aqua Buff 1000. (Cutting) >> Aqua Buff 2000 (finishing) >> >> Yes a machine . >> In the final stage we add some yellow wax to the Aqua Buff >> > 2000 to shine
> It up like new >> >> Be well >> Bob >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Apr 30, 2017, at 8:59 PM, Daniel Rich < >> > danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Montypals: >> >> Man, my Monty has lots of oxidation. It has been neglected >> > while I build my SCAMP.
> So, I want to rub out the hull, but I have never done it. >> > Should I do it by hand, or use some kind of buffing machine? I think the laps will get in the way. Thoughts?
> Daniel Rich >> M15 #208 "Kestrel" >> danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com> >> >> > >> >
-- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john@eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com
The stripper stuff I'm using is also water cleanup, but not citrus based. So it might be harsher on synthetics, as the label warns. Glad to hear the citrus based one seems harmless to gelcoat, for future reference. cheers, john S. On 05/01/2017 03:32 PM, Thomas Buzzi wrote:
I used a citrus stripper which was great on bottom paint. Worth a try on the bright work. It is water soluble and I don't think it harms other surfaces. When it allowed me to squeegee off the bottom paint there was no discernible damage to the gelcoat.
On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 2:52 PM, John Schinnerer <john@eco-living.net> wrote:
If you mask off the rails with painter's (masking) tape to protect the deck, you could probably use a chemical stripper on the wood finish without risking the gelcoat & fiberglass. Read the stripper's warnings carefully though! I'm using "Klean-Strip" premium stripper and it says don't use on linoleum, rubber, fiberglass, a handful of other synthetic surfaces. And I'm working with the removable wood pieces so no risk.
It sure does cut way down on the elbow grease of scraping to use the strippers where possible. Most of the finish peels of relatively easily. If there are thick spots that it doesn't penetrate the first time around, just hit those with a second round after scraping off all the easier parts.
cheers, John S.
On 05/01/2017 10:35 AM, Daniel Rich wrote:
Well, not looking for a yacht quality job, so I will give it a go on the boat.
Daniel
On 5/1/2017 10:14 AM, Bob Eeg wrote:
I agree with Tom but removing the toe rails would require popping out the teak plugs.
And replacing them with new plugs. Not a big deal but more work. Some plugs won't come out perfectly and you end up chipping the radius.
Bob
Sent from my iPad
On May 1, 2017, at 10:10 AM, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> wrote:
Well, getting the toe rails off will be a pain. I will probably do it in place. I may regret it.
Daniel
On 5/1/2017 10:05 AM, Thomas Buzzi wrote:
If you take the teak off the boat it will be a LOT easier to deal with. Most old teak needs to be rebedded anyway. Don't know what happened to my email about "New Glass 2" but that is what I used and it was very easy to get a magnificent, long lasting shine! I don't sell the stuff but I certainly will use it again when that becomes necessary.
On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 10:46 AM, STANLEY WHEATLEY <swwheatley@comcast.net> wrote:
Best way to strip an old finish is a heat gun and a good scraper > like a > Bahco/Sandvik. > > On May 1, 2017 at 12:49 AM Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> >> > wrote: > >> I will check that out. >> >> The teak has something on it like Cetol. Peeling off. So, I >> think I >> > need some sort of mechanical removal of it. Maybe I will just have > to sand > it. > >> Daniel >> >> > > >> >>> On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:28 PM, Bob Eeg < >>> >> montgomeryboats@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> Not a fan of a sponge try to get a rotating rug. Held on >>> with >>> >> Velcro. > >> Teak >>> https://www.jamestowndistributors.com/ >>> >> userportal/show_product.do?pid=9118 > >> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:24 PM, Daniel Rich < >>> >> danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>> wrote: > >> This is good to know. My Monty needs some TLC. >>> >>> Now, what about the teak? A total mess. Should I scrape >>> with a >>> >> cabinet scraper? > >> Daniel >>> On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:23 PM, Bob Eeg < >>> >> montgomeryboats@hotmail.com<mailto:montgomeryboats@hotmail.com>> > wrote: > >> Also get an old windex to mist some water on the >>> compound. Do >>> >> a large section at a time. It cuts fast and doesn't take long. > >> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:17 PM, Daniel Rich < >>> >> danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>> wrote: > >> Thanks for the quick response Bob! >>> >>> OK, I will check them out. Can I get away with a buffing >>> pad >>> >> on my portable drill, or do I need an edge grinder or something else? > >> Daniel >>> On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:15 PM, Bob Eeg < >>> >> montgomeryboats@hotmail.com<mailto:montgomeryboats@hotmail.com>> > wrote: > >> Daniel >>> >>> I like these 2 products that we use. >>> >>> (google) >>> >>> Aqua Buff 1000. (Cutting) >>> Aqua Buff 2000 (finishing) >>> >>> Yes a machine . >>> In the final stage we add some yellow wax to the Aqua Buff >>> >> 2000 to shine > >> It up like new >>> >>> Be well >>> Bob >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> On Apr 30, 2017, at 8:59 PM, Daniel Rich < >>> >> danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>> wrote: > >> Montypals: >>> >>> Man, my Monty has lots of oxidation. It has been neglected >>> >> while I build my SCAMP. > >> So, I want to rub out the hull, but I have never done it. >>> >> Should I do it by hand, or use some kind of buffing machine? I > think the > laps will get in the way. Thoughts? > >> Daniel Rich >>> M15 #208 "Kestrel" >>> danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com> >>> >>> > >>> >>
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-- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john@eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com
Hi Daniel I have a Makita circular buffer that works very well on my M-23. I use the 3-M cleaner wax combo or compound wax combo on my boat depending on the state of the gel coat. I think there may be more effective products but these seem to work well. Then I like the 3-M past wax which is most effective with a power buffer. The laps get in the way as they do on every hull project but the circular buffer works well. It is very much worth the money. Robbin M-23 pinch me (Monty owner until it sells) Robbin Roddewig robbin.roddewig@verizon.net -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Mon, May 1, 2017 12:00 am Subject: M_Boats: Cleaning the hull with rubbing compound Montypals: Man, my Monty has lots of oxidation. It has been neglected while I build my SCAMP. So, I want to rub out the hull, but I have never done it. Should I do it by hand, or use some kind of buffing machine? I think the laps will get in the way. Thoughts? Daniel Rich M15 #208 "Kestrel" danielgrich@gmail.com
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