new owner and some questions - Anchor and jacklines
Hi everyone. I recently bought a M17 (formerly "toxic asset") and have been sailing the **** out of her. It was fun, and I need more! I want to start making longer trips. I would like to get a second anchor and I was wondering where the 2nd anchor can be cleated to? Currently, there is a cleat amidships in the bow deck. Line runs from a bucket in the cabin through a hawspipe through the deck. There are two more cleats in port and stbd side at the stern, but they don't look strong enough for an anchor to be secured to. Do I need to install another cleat? Also, how should I go about getting jacklines installed? A friend of mine is sending me his harnesses for me to use. I see one U-bolt on the sides of the cockpit, and eyelets at the bowsprit. Do I run them between the two? Thanks. -- 1977 M17 "Jindo" Jerry Lee gogojindo.blogspot.com Shooter's Quest Network Hi-Kick Racing Motorsports Blog
Jerry Lee: congrats on your new-to-you boat.
cleats in port and stbd side at the stern
there are some differences between M17s based on how jerry M. built them and what owners have done. the method used to attach the bow cleat to the deck is the same as the stern cleats. are your stern and bow cleats different sized? are they a 'horn' cleat that is clear anodized aluminum?
hawspipe through the deck.
this is a modification done by a prior owner. jerry M. would not have done this.
Also, how should I go about getting jacklines installed? ... I see one U-bolt on the sides of the cockpit, and eyelets at the bowsprit. Do I run them between the two?
jerry, in practice, didn't install any u-bolts for jacklines on his boats. i would check the one you have on your boat and see if it looks to be strong enough and has a good sized backing plate. by 'bowsprit' do you mean bow pulpit? i would insect the condition of the washers used to hold the pulpit to the deck before relying on the pulpit to hold your weight. you could, if the the bow cleat is well backed, tie one end of the jackline there.
gogojindo.blogspot.com
nice blog. keep at it as i enjoyed your writings. :: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com :: Sage Marine - www.sagemarine.com --- On Sat, 5/5/12, Jerry Lee Hi-Kick Racing <hikickracing@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi everyone. I recently bought a M17 (formerly "toxic asset") and have been sailing the **** out of her. It was fun, and I need more! I want to start making longer trips. I would like to get a second anchor and I was wondering where the 2nd anchor can be cleated to? Currently, there is a cleat amidships in the bow deck. Line runs from a bucket in the cabin through a hawspipe through the deck.
There are two more cleats in port and stbd side at the stern, but they don't look strong enough for an anchor to be secured to. Do I need to install another cleat?
Also, how should I go about getting jacklines installed? A friend of mine is sending me his harnesses for me to use. I see one U-bolt on the sides of the cockpit, and eyelets at the bowsprit. Do I run them between the two?
Thanks.
-- 1977 M17 "Jindo" Jerry Lee gogojindo.blogspot.com
Shooter's Quest Network Hi-Kick Racing Motorsports Blog
Thank you David. I meant to say "pulpit" The bow cleat is amidships and is a large horn cleat; perhaps 8 inches long. stern cleats are mounted on each side of the cockpit walls (is that called a gunwale?) but a lot smaller; half the size. The pulpit had really bad backing (medium sized washers) and shoddy caulking (leaked through to the cabin), so I installed big fender washers and re-did the caulking for now (I plan to eventually put in a proper aluminum plate, and I have to check on the balsa). I think I will just attach it to the bow cleat. I will check the backing plates on the padeyes (I referred to them as U-bolts earlier) also. Thank you for the advice, and the kind words about my blog Sincerely, Jerry Lee On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 12:10 PM, W David Scobie <wdscobie@yahoo.com> wrote:
Jerry Lee:
congrats on your new-to-you boat.
cleats in port and stbd side at the stern
there are some differences between M17s based on how jerry M. built them and what owners have done.
the method used to attach the bow cleat to the deck is the same as the stern cleats. are your stern and bow cleats different sized? are they a 'horn' cleat that is clear anodized aluminum?
hawspipe through the deck.
this is a modification done by a prior owner. jerry M. would not have done this.
Also, how should I go about getting jacklines installed? ... I see one U-bolt on the sides of the cockpit, and eyelets at the bowsprit. Do I run them between the two?
jerry, in practice, didn't install any u-bolts for jacklines on his boats. i would check the one you have on your boat and see if it looks to be strong enough and has a good sized backing plate.
by 'bowsprit' do you mean bow pulpit? i would insect the condition of the washers used to hold the pulpit to the deck before relying on the pulpit to hold your weight. you could, if the the bow cleat is well backed, tie one end of the jackline there.
gogojindo.blogspot.com
nice blog. keep at it as i enjoyed your writings.
:: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com :: Sage Marine - www.sagemarine.com
--- On Sat, 5/5/12, Jerry Lee Hi-Kick Racing <hikickracing@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi everyone. I recently bought a M17 (formerly "toxic asset") and have been sailing the **** out of her. It was fun, and I need more! I want to start making longer trips. I would like to get a second anchor and I was wondering where the 2nd anchor can be cleated to? Currently, there is a cleat amidships in the bow deck. Line runs from a bucket in the cabin through a hawspipe through the deck.
There are two more cleats in port and stbd side at the stern, but they don't look strong enough for an anchor to be secured to. Do I need to install another cleat?
Also, how should I go about getting jacklines installed? A friend of mine is sending me his harnesses for me to use. I see one U-bolt on the sides of the cockpit, and eyelets at the bowsprit. Do I run them between the two?
Thanks.
-- 1977 M17 "Jindo" Jerry Lee gogojindo.blogspot.com
Shooter's Quest Network Hi-Kick Racing Motorsports Blog
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