Oh, wise ones, I've heard the M-15's boom can be stored within the cabin, but I've never managed to get mine in there. If possible, what's the secret maneuverations required? If not possible, where and how do you secure your boom when towing for distance? John Tyner M-15 #412 "Chimpanzee"
Hi: I store mine in the cabin all the time with the sail wrapped around it. The key is to get the boom right up against the bow and it will barely fit in the cabin. Make sure nothing is between the boom and the bow. Mine has been stored in the cabin throughout the winter and summer. It’s handy to have the sail on it for easy set up. In 7 years, I’ve never had any weathering or damage to the sail. Pete WinterSky (Zimowsky) San Juan Islander lost inland - an old salty stuck in the sagebrush outdoors writer and photographer Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pzimowsky Twitter: @zimosoutdoors The Northwest Outdoors Journey: https://outdoorsnorthwest.home.blog/2019/03/13/the-journey-begins/ "We Can Not Control the Wind But We Can Adjust Our Sails"
On Jun 6, 2024, at 7:49 PM, John Tyner <tynerjr@md.metrocast.net> wrote:
Oh, wise ones, I've heard the M-15's boom can be stored within the cabin, but I've never managed to get mine in there. If possible, what's the secret maneuverations required? If not possible, where and how do you secure your boom when towing for distance?
John Tyner
M-15 #412 "Chimpanzee"
Lift up the front of the boom. Sent from my iPad
On Jun 6, 2024, at 6:50 PM, John Tyner <tynerjr@md.metrocast.net> wrote:
Oh, wise ones, I've heard the M-15's boom can be stored within the cabin, but I've never managed to get mine in there. If possible, what's the secret maneuverations required? If not possible, where and how do you secure your boom when towing for distance?
John Tyner
M-15 #412 "Chimpanzee"
Yup, it’s super tight, but by lifting the part of the boom that reaches up into the forepeak it should fit through the companionway, with millimeters to spare. www.rustyknorr.weebly.com
On Jun 6, 2024, at 7:02 PM, Bob Eeg <montgomeryboats@hotmail.com> wrote:
Lift up the front of the boom.
Sent from my iPad
On Jun 6, 2024, at 6:50 PM, John Tyner <tynerjr@md.metrocast.net> wrote:
Oh, wise ones, I've heard the M-15's boom can be stored within the cabin, but I've never managed to get mine in there. If possible, what's the secret maneuverations required? If not possible, where and how do you secure your boom when towing for distance?
John Tyner
M-15 #412 "Chimpanzee"
Thanks for all the suggestions, everyone; that's how I've been trying so maybe my boom's not standard. I'll try again (and will also measure). What length should it be? 1988 model. John On 6/7/2024 12:44 AM, Rusty Knorr via montgomery_boats wrote:
Yup, it’s super tight, but by lifting the part of the boom that reaches up into the forepeak it should fit through the companionway, with millimeters to spare. www.rustyknorr.weebly.com
On Jun 6, 2024, at 7:02 PM, Bob Eeg<montgomeryboats@hotmail.com> wrote:
Lift up the front of the boom.
Sent from my iPad
On Jun 6, 2024, at 6:50 PM, John Tyner<tynerjr@md.metrocast.net> wrote:
Oh, wise ones, I've heard the M-15's boom can be stored within the cabin, but I've never managed to get mine in there. If possible, what's the secret maneuverations required? If not possible, where and how do you secure your boom when towing for distance?
John Tyner
M-15 #412 "Chimpanzee"
Measured just under 107" from end of boom to end of goose neck. -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Re: M_Boats: Re: M-15 boom storage Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2024 08:44:15 -0400 From: John Tyner <tynerjr@md.metrocast.net> To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Thanks for all the suggestions, everyone; that's how I've been trying so maybe my boom's not standard. I'll try again (and will also measure). What length should it be? 1988 model. John On 6/7/2024 12:44 AM, Rusty Knorr via montgomery_boats wrote:
Yup, it’s super tight, but by lifting the part of the boom that reaches up into the forepeak it should fit through the companionway, with millimeters to spare. www.rustyknorr.weebly.com
On Jun 6, 2024, at 7:02 PM, Bob Eeg<montgomeryboats@hotmail.com> wrote:
Lift up the front of the boom.
Sent from my iPad
On Jun 6, 2024, at 6:50 PM, John Tyner<tynerjr@md.metrocast.net> wrote:
Oh, wise ones, I've heard the M-15's boom can be stored within the cabin, but I've never managed to get mine in there. If possible, what's the secret maneuverations required? If not possible, where and how do you secure your boom when towing for distance?
John Tyner
M-15 #412 "Chimpanzee"
My boom measures just under 107" from cap on end to goose neck. John On 6/7/2024 8:44 AM, John Tyner wrote:
Thanks for all the suggestions, everyone; that's how I've been trying so maybe my boom's not standard. I'll try again (and will also measure). What length should it be? 1988 model.
John
On 6/7/2024 12:44 AM, Rusty Knorr via montgomery_boats wrote:
Yup, it’s super tight, but by lifting the part of the boom that reaches up into the forepeak it should fit through the companionway, with millimeters to spare. www.rustyknorr.weebly.com
On Jun 6, 2024, at 7:02 PM, Bob Eeg<montgomeryboats@hotmail.com> wrote:
Lift up the front of the boom.
Sent from my iPad
On Jun 6, 2024, at 6:50 PM, John Tyner<tynerjr@md.metrocast.net> wrote:
Oh, wise ones, I've heard the M-15's boom can be stored within the cabin, but I've never managed to get mine in there. If possible, what's the secret maneuverations required? If not possible, where and how do you secure your boom when towing for distance?
John Tyner
M-15 #412 "Chimpanzee"
Well, I never could get my boom into the cabin, and received no responses on boom length, so I thought I'd try again. Presently I've got my boom resting (cushioned and secured) on the cabin top between the verticals of the mast step and forward to the forestay chainplate. I've only towed it about 4 miles in this configuration, but will soon have a 360 mile trip to make. Attached is a photo showing the boom protruding from the cabin. Other end is all the way forward, and up, as suggested by some. John Tyner M-15 #412 "Chimpanzee" P.S. - I also have some oddball spindles (too long to be "short" spindles, too short to be "standard" spindles) on my Zieman trailer if anyone wants to get into that topic. On 6/7/2024 12:44 PM, John Tyner wrote:
My boom measures just under 107" from cap on end to goose neck.
John
On 6/7/2024 8:44 AM, John Tyner wrote:
Thanks for all the suggestions, everyone; that's how I've been trying so maybe my boom's not standard. I'll try again (and will also measure). What length should it be? 1988 model.
John
On 6/7/2024 12:44 AM, Rusty Knorr via montgomery_boats wrote:
Yup, it’s super tight, but by lifting the part of the boom that reaches up into the forepeak it should fit through the companionway, with millimeters to spare. www.rustyknorr.weebly.com
On Jun 6, 2024, at 7:02 PM, Bob Eeg<montgomeryboats@hotmail.com> wrote:
Lift up the front of the boom.
Sent from my iPad
On Jun 6, 2024, at 6:50 PM, John Tyner<tynerjr@md.metrocast.net> wrote:
Oh, wise ones, I've heard the M-15's boom can be stored within the cabin, but I've never managed to get mine in there. If possible, what's the secret maneuverations required? If not possible, where and how do you secure your boom when towing for distance?
John Tyner
M-15 #412 "Chimpanzee"
John, To get the boom in the cabin, you'll need to lift the boom up so the end is tight into the bow above the bow eye bolt. If you do it right, you'll just clear the hatch sides. On Tuesday, June 25, 2024 at 10:34:27 AM EDT, John Tyner <tynerjr@md.metrocast.net> wrote: Well, I never could get my boom into the cabin, and received no responses on boom length, so I thought I'd try again. Presently I've got my boom resting (cushioned and secured) on the cabin top between the verticals of the mast step and forward to the forestay chainplate. I've only towed it about 4 miles in this configuration, but will soon have a 360 mile trip to make. Attached is a photo showing the boom protruding from the cabin. Other end is all the way forward, and up, as suggested by some. John Tyner M-15 #412 "Chimpanzee" P.S. - I also have some oddball spindles (too long to be "short" spindles, too short to be "standard" spindles) on my Zieman trailer if anyone wants to get into that topic. On 6/7/2024 12:44 PM, John Tyner wrote:
My boom measures just under 107" from cap on end to goose neck.
John
On 6/7/2024 8:44 AM, John Tyner wrote:
Thanks for all the suggestions, everyone; that's how I've been trying so maybe my boom's not standard. I'll try again (and will also measure). What length should it be? 1988 model.
John
On 6/7/2024 12:44 AM, Rusty Knorr via montgomery_boats wrote:
Yup, it’s super tight, but by lifting the part of the boom that reaches up into the forepeak it should fit through the companionway, with millimeters to spare. www.rustyknorr.weebly.com
On Jun 6, 2024, at 7:02 PM, Bob Eeg<montgomeryboats@hotmail.com> wrote:
Lift up the front of the boom.
Sent from my iPad
On Jun 6, 2024, at 6:50 PM, John Tyner<tynerjr@md.metrocast.net> wrote:
Oh, wise ones, I've heard the M-15's boom can be stored within the cabin, but I've never managed to get mine in there. If possible, what's the secret maneuverations required? If not possible, where and how do you secure your boom when towing for distance?
John Tyner
M-15 #412 "Chimpanzee"
Why don’t you reach out to John Harris at CLC, I believe he used to own that boat. Maybe he put a longer boom on for some weird reason. There’s no secret to it, it either fits inside or it doesn’t, but I’ve had three and the boom fit in all of them, and I’ve never heard of one that didn’t fit. Rusty www.rustyknorr.weebly.com
On Jun 25, 2024, at 7:34 AM, John Tyner <tynerjr@md.metrocast.net> wrote:
Well, I never could get my boom into the cabin, and received no responses on boom length, so I thought I'd try again.
Presently I've got my boom resting (cushioned and secured) on the cabin top between the verticals of the mast step and forward to the forestay chainplate. I've only towed it about 4 miles in this configuration, but will soon have a 360 mile trip to make.
Attached is a photo showing the boom protruding from the cabin. Other end is all the way forward, and up, as suggested by some.
John Tyner
M-15 #412 "Chimpanzee"
P.S. - I also have some oddball spindles (too long to be "short" spindles, too short to be "standard" spindles) on my Zieman trailer if anyone wants to get into that topic.
On 6/7/2024 12:44 PM, John Tyner wrote:
My boom measures just under 107" from cap on end to goose neck.
John
On 6/7/2024 8:44 AM, John Tyner wrote:
Thanks for all the suggestions, everyone; that's how I've been trying so maybe my boom's not standard. I'll try again (and will also measure). What length should it be? 1988 model.
John
On 6/7/2024 12:44 AM, Rusty Knorr via montgomery_boats wrote:
Yup, it’s super tight, but by lifting the part of the boom that reaches up into the forepeak it should fit through the companionway, with millimeters to spare. www.rustyknorr.weebly.com
On Jun 6, 2024, at 7:02 PM, Bob Eeg<montgomeryboats@hotmail.com> wrote:
Lift up the front of the boom.
Sent from my iPad
On Jun 6, 2024, at 6:50 PM, John Tyner<tynerjr@md.metrocast.net> wrote:
Oh, wise ones, I've heard the M-15's boom can be stored within the cabin, but I've never managed to get mine in there. If possible, what's the secret maneuverations required? If not possible, where and how do you secure your boom when towing for distance?
John Tyner
M-15 #412 "Chimpanzee" <boom.JPG>
John was always (still is) experimenting with boats. I know he had a larger main made for Chimpanzee, but never associated that with a longer boom. Could be, and I have his contact info, so I'll ask. Of course, if someone knows (or would measure) what length the boom /should/ be, including gooseneck and end cap, I'd appreciate knowing. On 6/25/2024 11:53 AM, Rusty Knorr via montgomery_boats wrote:
Why don’t you reach out to John Harris at CLC, I believe he used to own that boat. Maybe he put a longer boom on for some weird reason. There’s no secret to it, it either fits inside or it doesn’t, but I’ve had three and the boom fit in all of them, and I’ve never heard of one that didn’t fit.
Rusty www.rustyknorr.weebly.com
On Jun 25, 2024, at 7:34 AM, John Tyner<tynerjr@md.metrocast.net> wrote:
Well, I never could get my boom into the cabin, and received no responses on boom length, so I thought I'd try again.
Presently I've got my boom resting (cushioned and secured) on the cabin top between the verticals of the mast step and forward to the forestay chainplate. I've only towed it about 4 miles in this configuration, but will soon have a 360 mile trip to make.
Attached is a photo showing the boom protruding from the cabin. Other end is all the way forward, and up, as suggested by some.
John Tyner
M-15 #412 "Chimpanzee"
P.S. - I also have some oddball spindles (too long to be "short" spindles, too short to be "standard" spindles) on my Zieman trailer if anyone wants to get into that topic.
On 6/7/2024 12:44 PM, John Tyner wrote:
My boom measures just under 107" from cap on end to goose neck.
John
On 6/7/2024 8:44 AM, John Tyner wrote:
Thanks for all the suggestions, everyone; that's how I've been trying so maybe my boom's not standard. I'll try again (and will also measure). What length should it be? 1988 model.
John
On 6/7/2024 12:44 AM, Rusty Knorr via montgomery_boats wrote:
Yup, it’s super tight, but by lifting the part of the boom that reaches up into the forepeak it should fit through the companionway, with millimeters to spare. www.rustyknorr.weebly.com
On Jun 6, 2024, at 7:02 PM, Bob Eeg<montgomeryboats@hotmail.com> wrote:
Lift up the front of the boom.
Sent from my iPad
> On Jun 6, 2024, at 6:50 PM, John Tyner<tynerjr@md.metrocast.net> wrote: > > Oh, wise ones, I've heard the M-15's boom can be stored within the cabin, but I've never managed to get mine in there. If possible, what's the secret maneuverations required? If not possible, where and how do you secure your boom when towing for distance? > > John Tyner > > M-15 #412 "Chimpanzee" <boom.JPG>
John, I just measured my boom. It’s 98”. That pretty much explains your issue trying to fit the boom in the cabin. Good luck. Skip Campion M-15 #210 1982 M-5.6 #28. 1973
On Jun 25, 2024, at 10:34 AM, John Tyner <tynerjr@md.metrocast.net> wrote:
Well, I never could get my boom into the cabin, and received no responses on boom length, so I thought I'd try again.
Presently I've got my boom resting (cushioned and secured) on the cabin top between the verticals of the mast step and forward to the forestay chainplate. I've only towed it about 4 miles in this configuration, but will soon have a 360 mile trip to make.
Attached is a photo showing the boom protruding from the cabin. Other end is all the way forward, and up, as suggested by some.
John Tyner
M-15 #412 "Chimpanzee"
P.S. - I also have some oddball spindles (too long to be "short" spindles, too short to be "standard" spindles) on my Zieman trailer if anyone wants to get into that topic.
On 6/7/2024 12:44 PM, John Tyner wrote:
My boom measures just under 107" from cap on end to goose neck.
John
On 6/7/2024 8:44 AM, John Tyner wrote:
Thanks for all the suggestions, everyone; that's how I've been trying so maybe my boom's not standard. I'll try again (and will also measure). What length should it be? 1988 model.
John
On 6/7/2024 12:44 AM, Rusty Knorr via montgomery_boats wrote:
Yup, it’s super tight, but by lifting the part of the boom that reaches up into the forepeak it should fit through the companionway, with millimeters to spare. www.rustyknorr.weebly.com
On Jun 6, 2024, at 7:02 PM, Bob Eeg<montgomeryboats@hotmail.com> wrote:
Lift up the front of the boom.
Sent from my iPad
On Jun 6, 2024, at 6:50 PM, John Tyner<tynerjr@md.metrocast.net> wrote:
Oh, wise ones, I've heard the M-15's boom can be stored within the cabin, but I've never managed to get mine in there. If possible, what's the secret maneuverations required? If not possible, where and how do you secure your boom when towing for distance?
John Tyner
M-15 #412 "Chimpanzee" <boom.JPG>
Thanks, Skip. Yeah, that extra 5"-6" will do it! On 6/25/2024 6:39 PM, William Campion via montgomery_boats wrote:
John, I just measured my boom. It’s 98”. That pretty much explains your issue trying to fit the boom in the cabin. Good luck.
Skip Campion M-15 #210 1982 M-5.6 #28. 1973
On Jun 25, 2024, at 10:34 AM, John Tyner<tynerjr@md.metrocast.net> wrote:
Well, I never could get my boom into the cabin, and received no responses on boom length, so I thought I'd try again.
Presently I've got my boom resting (cushioned and secured) on the cabin top between the verticals of the mast step and forward to the forestay chainplate. I've only towed it about 4 miles in this configuration, but will soon have a 360 mile trip to make.
Attached is a photo showing the boom protruding from the cabin. Other end is all the way forward, and up, as suggested by some.
John Tyner
M-15 #412 "Chimpanzee"
P.S. - I also have some oddball spindles (too long to be "short" spindles, too short to be "standard" spindles) on my Zieman trailer if anyone wants to get into that topic.
On 6/7/2024 12:44 PM, John Tyner wrote:
My boom measures just under 107" from cap on end to goose neck.
John
On 6/7/2024 8:44 AM, John Tyner wrote:
Thanks for all the suggestions, everyone; that's how I've been trying so maybe my boom's not standard. I'll try again (and will also measure). What length should it be? 1988 model.
John
On 6/7/2024 12:44 AM, Rusty Knorr via montgomery_boats wrote:
Yup, it’s super tight, but by lifting the part of the boom that reaches up into the forepeak it should fit through the companionway, with millimeters to spare. www.rustyknorr.weebly.com
On Jun 6, 2024, at 7:02 PM, Bob Eeg<montgomeryboats@hotmail.com> wrote:
Lift up the front of the boom.
Sent from my iPad
> On Jun 6, 2024, at 6:50 PM, John Tyner<tynerjr@md.metrocast.net> wrote: > > Oh, wise ones, I've heard the M-15's boom can be stored within the cabin, but I've never managed to get mine in there. If possible, what's the secret maneuverations required? If not possible, where and how do you secure your boom when towing for distance? > > John Tyner > > M-15 #412 "Chimpanzee" <boom.JPG>
Thanks, Skip. Yeah, those extra inches will do it! On 6/25/2024 6:39 PM, William Campion via montgomery_boats wrote:
John, I just measured my boom. It’s 98”. That pretty much explains your issue trying to fit the boom in the cabin. Good luck.
Skip Campion M-15 #210 1982 M-5.6 #28. 1973
On Jun 25, 2024, at 10:34 AM, John Tyner<tynerjr@md.metrocast.net> wrote:
Well, I never could get my boom into the cabin, and received no responses on boom length, so I thought I'd try again.
Presently I've got my boom resting (cushioned and secured) on the cabin top between the verticals of the mast step and forward to the forestay chainplate. I've only towed it about 4 miles in this configuration, but will soon have a 360 mile trip to make.
Attached is a photo showing the boom protruding from the cabin. Other end is all the way forward, and up, as suggested by some.
John Tyner
M-15 #412 "Chimpanzee"
P.S. - I also have some oddball spindles (too long to be "short" spindles, too short to be "standard" spindles) on my Zieman trailer if anyone wants to get into that topic.
On 6/7/2024 12:44 PM, John Tyner wrote:
My boom measures just under 107" from cap on end to goose neck.
John
On 6/7/2024 8:44 AM, John Tyner wrote:
Thanks for all the suggestions, everyone; that's how I've been trying so maybe my boom's not standard. I'll try again (and will also measure). What length should it be? 1988 model.
John
On 6/7/2024 12:44 AM, Rusty Knorr via montgomery_boats wrote:
Yup, it’s super tight, but by lifting the part of the boom that reaches up into the forepeak it should fit through the companionway, with millimeters to spare. www.rustyknorr.weebly.com
On Jun 6, 2024, at 7:02 PM, Bob Eeg<montgomeryboats@hotmail.com> wrote:
Lift up the front of the boom.
Sent from my iPad
> On Jun 6, 2024, at 6:50 PM, John Tyner<tynerjr@md.metrocast.net> wrote: > > Oh, wise ones, I've heard the M-15's boom can be stored within the cabin, but I've never managed to get mine in there. If possible, what's the secret maneuverations required? If not possible, where and how do you secure your boom when towing for distance? > > John Tyner > > M-15 #412 "Chimpanzee" <boom.JPG>
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