Re: M_Boats: "paddle-ability" of the 17
I played around with making a mount for a long oar for the transom on my M17. I tried it in the North Channel when I was up with the Monty flotilla several years ago. All it seemed to do was fishtale the boat with little forward progress. I KNOW I was not performing the correct lift, twist, shake, etc to the driving oar. I would like to figure it out sometime. I still have the oar and mount. Doug Keltch was watching me, I'm sure he was having a good chuckle. Bones ____________________________________________________________ 37 Items To Stockpile Don't Get Caught Without These 37 "Crucial" Items During A Crisis. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/50b3e3d91acb863d86042st03vuc
B, Saw a Youtube video by a guy who mounted a rotationg oarlock tube on his transom, into which he inserted a longish aluminum oar with a flexible swim fin at the end. Basically, it works like a tuna tail fin, which has pretty good drive. Apparently no fancy rotation of the oar is necessary--just a fairly low-amplitude back and forth sculling. His boat was a largish inflatable sailboat, which is probably a toad to shove in displacement mode, and he was easily surpassing 2 knots or more. Hmmm. Tom Jenkins On Nov 26, 2012, at 1:48 PM, bownez@juno.com wrote:
I played around with making a mount for a long oar for the transom on my M17. I tried it in the North Channel when I was up with the Monty flotilla several years ago. All it seemed to do was fishtale the boat with little forward progress. I KNOW I was not performing the correct lift, twist, shake, etc to the driving oar. I would like to figure it out sometime. I still have the oar and mount. Doug Keltch was watching me, I'm sure he was having a good chuckle.
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From the MSOG........... http://msog.org/how-to/oars.cfm About 1 knot when it's calm. I have tried it in a chop with not much luck. I couldn't generate enough thrust with it to overcome the windage. As an alternative, a straight oar of about 9 feet could be used to row from one side, or do double duty as a sculling oar off the stern. For the hopelessly curious............ http://www.boatbuilding-links.de/Jim-Michalak/oar-building-and-rowing.htm or built from the CLC plans........again........around 9 feet........ http://www.clcboats.com/shop/boats/boat-gear/oars/wooden-oars-plans-patterns... If you wanted to strictly scull with it, probably should add at least a foot of blade, but as shown in these designs, a nine footer could scull or row. I have also used a Motor Guide 56 trolling motor with good success........until the battery runs down. About 3 to 3.5 knots max. Bottom line is if you have to go to weather when the winds up, and you are in a confined channel and can't sail, you are probably going to want a gas motor.
Aloha, How about row-ability? Anyone tried rafting or sculling oars, with oarlocks? They're available plenty long, light and strong for sure. Does add another awkward item to stow. However rafting oars at least are available in break-down (two piece, take-apart) versions to mitigate that issue. cheers, John S. On 11/26/2012 12:26 PM, Howard Audsley wrote:
From the MSOG...........
http://msog.org/how-to/oars.cfm
About 1 knot when it's calm. I have tried it in a chop with not much luck. I couldn't generate enough thrust with it to overcome the windage.
As an alternative, a straight oar of about 9 feet could be used to row from one side, or do double duty as a sculling oar off the stern.
For the hopelessly curious............
http://www.boatbuilding-links.de/Jim-Michalak/oar-building-and-rowing.htm
or built from the CLC plans........again........around 9 feet........
http://www.clcboats.com/shop/boats/boat-gear/oars/wooden-oars-plans-patterns...
If you wanted to strictly scull with it, probably should add at least a foot of blade, but as shown in these designs, a nine footer could scull or row.
I have also used a Motor Guide 56 trolling motor with good success........until the battery runs down. About 3 to 3.5 knots max.
Bottom line is if you have to go to weather when the winds up, and you are in a confined channel and can't sail, you are probably going to want a gas motor.
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