broken forestay mast fitting
My forestay mast fitting broke and I found out when the mast was down or it could have been more serious. I jury rigged a fitting in order to enjoy some sailing this last weekend on Odell Lake, Oregon. But now I need to know how to permanently replace this fitting where the forestay attaches to the mast. I would appreciate any ideas on that one. All there is left is the oblong hole in the mast where the fitting used to be.
Doug: Boat? 15 or 17? So the fitting is the aluminum metal casting? Year of boat? :: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: M6'8" #650 :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com On Wed, Sep 5, 2018, 7:50 AM doug <doug9326@gmail.com> wrote:
My forestay mast fitting broke and I found out when the mast was down or it could have been more serious. I jury rigged a fitting in order to enjoy some sailing this last weekend on Odell Lake, Oregon. But now I need to know how to permanently replace this fitting where the forestay attaches to the mast. I would appreciate any ideas on that one. All there is left is the oblong hole in the mast where the fitting used to be.
The year is 1980. The fitting is whatever it is that holds up the forestay on the mast. So the mast fitting is the aluminum metal casting which the forestay is attached to on the mast just above the jib fitting.
On Sep 5, 2018, at 8:03 AM, Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> wrote:
Doug:
Boat? 15 or 17?
So the fitting is the aluminum metal casting?
Year of boat?
:: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: M6'8" #650 :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com
On Wed, Sep 5, 2018, 7:50 AM doug <doug9326@gmail.com> wrote:
My forestay mast fitting broke and I found out when the mast was down or it could have been more serious. I jury rigged a fitting in order to enjoy some sailing this last weekend on Odell Lake, Oregon. But now I need to know how to permanently replace this fitting where the forestay attaches to the mast. I would appreciate any ideas on that one. All there is left is the oblong hole in the mast where the fitting used to be.
17 Doug? Or is this a 15? :: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: M6'8" #650 :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com On Wed, Sep 5, 2018, 8:31 AM doug <doug9326@gmail.com> wrote:
The year is 1980. The fitting is whatever it is that holds up the forestay on the mast. So the mast fitting is the aluminum metal casting which the forestay is attached to on the mast just above the jib fitting.
On Sep 5, 2018, at 8:03 AM, Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> wrote:
Doug:
Boat? 15 or 17?
So the fitting is the aluminum metal casting?
Year of boat?
:: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: M6'8" #650 :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com
On Wed, Sep 5, 2018, 7:50 AM doug <doug9326@gmail.com> wrote:
My forestay mast fitting broke and I found out when the mast was down or it could have been more serious. I jury rigged a fitting in order to enjoy some sailing this last weekend on Odell Lake, Oregon. But now I need to know how to permanently replace this fitting where the forestay attaches to the mast. I would appreciate any ideas on that one. All there is left is the oblong hole in the mast where the fitting used to be.
Ignore the last email - '80 means a 17! (Duh on my part). A picture will really help as your boat's mast is different shape/size than one you can nkw get now (as the mast manufacturer for your boat is no longer around). :: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: M6'8" #650 :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com On Wed, Sep 5, 2018, 8:34 AM Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> wrote:
17 Doug? Or is this a 15?
:: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: M6'8" #650 :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com
On Wed, Sep 5, 2018, 8:31 AM doug <doug9326@gmail.com> wrote:
The year is 1980. The fitting is whatever it is that holds up the forestay on the mast. So the mast fitting is the aluminum metal casting which the forestay is attached to on the mast just above the jib fitting.
On Sep 5, 2018, at 8:03 AM, Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> wrote:
Doug:
Boat? 15 or 17?
So the fitting is the aluminum metal casting?
Year of boat?
:: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: M6'8" #650 :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com
On Wed, Sep 5, 2018, 7:50 AM doug <doug9326@gmail.com> wrote:
My forestay mast fitting broke and I found out when the mast was down or it could have been more serious. I jury rigged a fitting in order to enjoy some sailing this last weekend on Odell Lake, Oregon. But now I need to know how to permanently replace this fitting where the forestay attaches to the mast. I would appreciate any ideas on that one. All there is left is the oblong hole in the mast where the fitting used to be.
Ok. I will get a photo to you today. Thanks On Wed, Sep 5, 2018, 9:38 AM Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> wrote:
Ignore the last email - '80 means a 17! (Duh on my part).
A picture will really help as your boat's mast is different shape/size than one you can nkw get now (as the mast manufacturer for your boat is no longer around).
:: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: M6'8" #650 :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com
On Wed, Sep 5, 2018, 8:34 AM Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> wrote:
17 Doug? Or is this a 15?
:: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: M6'8" #650 :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com
On Wed, Sep 5, 2018, 8:31 AM doug <doug9326@gmail.com> wrote:
The year is 1980. The fitting is whatever it is that holds up the forestay on the mast. So the mast fitting is the aluminum metal casting which the forestay is attached to on the mast just above the jib fitting.
On Sep 5, 2018, at 8:03 AM, Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> wrote:
Doug:
Boat? 15 or 17?
So the fitting is the aluminum metal casting?
Year of boat?
:: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: M6'8" #650 :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com
On Wed, Sep 5, 2018, 7:50 AM doug <doug9326@gmail.com> wrote:
My forestay mast fitting broke and I found out when the mast was down or it could have been more serious. I jury rigged a fitting in order to enjoy some sailing this last weekend on Odell Lake, Oregon. But now I need to know how to permanently replace this fitting where the forestay attaches to the mast. I would appreciate any ideas on that one. All there is left is the oblong hole in the mast where the fitting used to be.
Doug I thought you owned a 1980 Montgomery 15....? You mentioned an oblong hole.....that’s for the headstay. A bolt runs thru the mast capturing the swaged headstay and either end of the bolt will hold the Side stays. The headstay exits out the oblong hole. Bob Sent from my iPad
On Sep 5, 2018, at 8:40 AM, Doug 9326 <doug9326@gmail.com> wrote:
Ok. I will get a photo to you today. Thanks
On Wed, Sep 5, 2018, 9:38 AM Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> wrote:
Ignore the last email - '80 means a 17! (Duh on my part).
A picture will really help as your boat's mast is different shape/size than one you can nkw get now (as the mast manufacturer for your boat is no longer around).
:: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: M6'8" #650 :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com
On Wed, Sep 5, 2018, 8:34 AM Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> wrote:
17 Doug? Or is this a 15?
:: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: M6'8" #650 :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com
On Wed, Sep 5, 2018, 8:31 AM doug <doug9326@gmail.com> wrote:
The year is 1980. The fitting is whatever it is that holds up the forestay on the mast. So the mast fitting is the aluminum metal casting which the forestay is attached to on the mast just above the jib fitting.
On Sep 5, 2018, at 8:03 AM, Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> wrote:
Doug:
Boat? 15 or 17?
So the fitting is the aluminum metal casting?
Year of boat?
:: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: M6'8" #650 :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com
On Wed, Sep 5, 2018, 7:50 AM doug <doug9326@gmail.com> wrote:
My forestay mast fitting broke and I found out when the mast was down or it could have been more serious. I jury rigged a fitting in order to enjoy some sailing this last weekend on Odell Lake, Oregon. But now I need to know how to permanently replace this fitting where the forestay attaches to the mast. I would appreciate any ideas on that one. All there is left is the oblong hole in the mast where the fitting used to be.
it's a forestay; headstays are on masthead rigs. -----Original Message----- From: Bob Eeg Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 8:49 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: broken forestay mast fitting Doug I thought you owned a 1980 Montgomery 15....? You mentioned an oblong hole.....that’s for the headstay. A bolt runs thru the mast capturing the swaged headstay and either end of the bolt will hold the Side stays. The headstay exits out the oblong hole. Bob Sent from my iPad
On Sep 5, 2018, at 8:40 AM, Doug 9326 <doug9326@gmail.com> wrote:
Ok. I will get a photo to you today. Thanks
On Wed, Sep 5, 2018, 9:38 AM Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> wrote:
Ignore the last email - '80 means a 17! (Duh on my part).
A picture will really help as your boat's mast is different shape/size than one you can nkw get now (as the mast manufacturer for your boat is no longer around).
:: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: M6'8" #650 :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com
On Wed, Sep 5, 2018, 8:34 AM Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> wrote:
17 Doug? Or is this a 15?
:: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: M6'8" #650 :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com
On Wed, Sep 5, 2018, 8:31 AM doug <doug9326@gmail.com> wrote:
The year is 1980. The fitting is whatever it is that holds up the forestay on the mast. So the mast fitting is the aluminum metal casting which the forestay is attached to on the mast just above the jib fitting.
On Sep 5, 2018, at 8:03 AM, Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> wrote:
Doug:
Boat? 15 or 17?
So the fitting is the aluminum metal casting?
Year of boat?
:: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: M6'8" #650 :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com
On Wed, Sep 5, 2018, 7:50 AM doug <doug9326@gmail.com> wrote:
My forestay mast fitting broke and I found out when the mast was down or it could have been more serious. I jury rigged a fitting in order to enjoy some sailing this last weekend on Odell Lake, Oregon. But now I need to know how to permanently replace this fitting where the forestay attaches to the mast. I would appreciate any ideas on that one. All there is left is the oblong hole in the mast where the fitting used to be.
Thanks for the coaching there. I will try to remember that. On Wed, Sep 5, 2018, 6:35 PM <jerry@jerrymontgomery.org> wrote:
it's a forestay; headstays are on masthead rigs.
-----Original Message----- From: Bob Eeg Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 8:49 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: broken forestay mast fitting
Doug I thought you owned a 1980 Montgomery 15....? You mentioned an oblong hole.....that’s for the headstay. A bolt runs thru the mast capturing the swaged headstay and either end of the bolt will hold the Side stays. The headstay exits out the oblong hole. Bob
Sent from my iPad
On Sep 5, 2018, at 8:40 AM, Doug 9326 <doug9326@gmail.com> wrote:
Ok. I will get a photo to you today. Thanks
On Wed, Sep 5, 2018, 9:38 AM Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> wrote:
Ignore the last email - '80 means a 17! (Duh on my part).
A picture will really help as your boat's mast is different shape/size than one you can nkw get now (as the mast manufacturer for your boat is no longer around).
:: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: M6'8" #650 :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com
On Wed, Sep 5, 2018, 8:34 AM Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> wrote:
17 Doug? Or is this a 15?
:: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: M6'8" #650 :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com
On Wed, Sep 5, 2018, 8:31 AM doug <doug9326@gmail.com> wrote:
The year is 1980. The fitting is whatever it is that holds up the forestay on the mast. So the mast fitting is the aluminum metal casting which the forestay is attached to on the mast just above the jib fitting.
On Sep 5, 2018, at 8:03 AM, Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> wrote:
Doug:
Boat? 15 or 17?
So the fitting is the aluminum metal casting?
Year of boat?
:: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: M6'8" #650 :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com
> On Wed, Sep 5, 2018, 7:50 AM doug <doug9326@gmail.com> wrote: > > My forestay mast fitting broke and I found out when the mast was down or > it could have been more serious. I jury rigged a fitting in order to enjoy > some sailing this last weekend on Odell Lake, Oregon. But now I need to > know how to permanently replace this fitting where the forestay attaches to > the mast. I would appreciate any ideas on that one. All there is left is > the oblong hole in the mast where the fitting used to be.
Doug: For the email list you need to reduce the size of the image ... I can't remember the exact size limit but something 200-300MB should be OK (I think). :: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: M6'8" #650 :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com On Wed, Sep 5, 2018, 8:41 AM Doug 9326 <doug9326@gmail.com> wrote:
Ok. I will get a photo to you today. Thanks
On Wed, Sep 5, 2018, 9:38 AM Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> wrote:
Ignore the last email - '80 means a 17! (Duh on my part).
A picture will really help as your boat's mast is different shape/size than one you can nkw get now (as the mast manufacturer for your boat is no longer around).
:: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: M6'8" #650 :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com
On Wed, Sep 5, 2018, 8:34 AM Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> wrote:
17 Doug? Or is this a 15?
:: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: M6'8" #650 :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com
On Wed, Sep 5, 2018, 8:31 AM doug <doug9326@gmail.com> wrote:
The year is 1980. The fitting is whatever it is that holds up the forestay on the mast. So the mast fitting is the aluminum metal casting which the forestay is attached to on the mast just above the jib fitting.
On Sep 5, 2018, at 8:03 AM, Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> wrote:
Doug:
Boat? 15 or 17?
So the fitting is the aluminum metal casting?
Year of boat?
:: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: M6'8" #650 :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com
On Wed, Sep 5, 2018, 7:50 AM doug <doug9326@gmail.com> wrote:
My forestay mast fitting broke and I found out when the mast was down or it could have been more serious. I jury rigged a fitting in order to enjoy some sailing this last weekend on Odell Lake, Oregon. But now I need to know how to permanently replace this fitting where the forestay attaches to the mast. I would appreciate any ideas on that one. All there is left is the oblong hole in the mast where the fitting used to be.
Thanks Dave. I may get around to posting some photos of my fine little yacht/M-15. She is looking nice with some good rigging, transom mounted ladder, teak rudder, new Honda 2hp, and very clean inside and out.
On Sep 5, 2018, at 8:51 AM, Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> wrote:
Doug:
For the email list you need to reduce the size of the image ... I can't remember the exact size limit but something 200-300MB should be OK (I think).
:: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: M6'8" #650 :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com
On Wed, Sep 5, 2018, 8:41 AM Doug 9326 <doug9326@gmail.com> wrote:
Ok. I will get a photo to you today. Thanks
On Wed, Sep 5, 2018, 9:38 AM Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> wrote:
Ignore the last email - '80 means a 17! (Duh on my part).
A picture will really help as your boat's mast is different shape/size than one you can nkw get now (as the mast manufacturer for your boat is no longer around).
:: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: M6'8" #650 :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com
On Wed, Sep 5, 2018, 8:34 AM Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> wrote:
17 Doug? Or is this a 15?
:: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: M6'8" #650 :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com
On Wed, Sep 5, 2018, 8:31 AM doug <doug9326@gmail.com> wrote:
The year is 1980. The fitting is whatever it is that holds up the forestay on the mast. So the mast fitting is the aluminum metal casting which the forestay is attached to on the mast just above the jib fitting.
On Sep 5, 2018, at 8:03 AM, Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> wrote:
Doug:
Boat? 15 or 17?
So the fitting is the aluminum metal casting?
Year of boat?
:: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: M6'8" #650 :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com
On Wed, Sep 5, 2018, 7:50 AM doug <doug9326@gmail.com> wrote:
> My forestay mast fitting broke and I found out when the mast was down or > it could have been more serious. I jury rigged a fitting in order to enjoy > some sailing this last weekend on Odell Lake, Oregon. But now I need to > know how to permanently replace this fitting where the forestay attaches to > the mast. I would appreciate any ideas on that one. All there is left is > the oblong hole in the mast where the fitting used to be.
Doug. Yeah ... 15 uses a 1/4" bolt. Get 316 or 18-8 stainless, a nyloc nut and washers. M15 is a simple rig so easy to repair. Check condition of the thimble eye and at the lower end the mechanical swage. Anything seem fishy, or broken wire strands (meathooks) replace the forestay. M17 is _completely_ different and more difficult to replace as the hardware is out of production. (The two boats only similar in rigging wires as both use 1/8".) :: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: M6'8" #650 :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com On Wed, Sep 5, 2018, 1:04 PM doug <doug9326@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Dave. I may get around to posting some photos of my fine little yacht/M-15. She is looking nice with some good rigging, transom mounted ladder, teak rudder, new Honda 2hp, and very clean inside and out.
On Sep 5, 2018, at 8:51 AM, Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> wrote:
Doug:
For the email list you need to reduce the size of the image ... I can't remember the exact size limit but something 200-300MB should be OK (I think).
:: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: M6'8" #650 :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com
On Wed, Sep 5, 2018, 8:41 AM Doug 9326 <doug9326@gmail.com> wrote:
Ok. I will get a photo to you today. Thanks
On Wed, Sep 5, 2018, 9:38 AM Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> wrote:
Ignore the last email - '80 means a 17! (Duh on my part).
A picture will really help as your boat's mast is different shape/size than one you can nkw get now (as the mast manufacturer for your boat is no longer around).
:: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: M6'8" #650 :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com
On Wed, Sep 5, 2018, 8:34 AM Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> wrote:
17 Doug? Or is this a 15?
:: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: M6'8" #650 :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com
On Wed, Sep 5, 2018, 8:31 AM doug <doug9326@gmail.com> wrote:
The year is 1980. The fitting is whatever it is that holds up the forestay on the mast. So the mast fitting is the aluminum metal casting which the forestay is attached to on the mast just above the jib fitting.
> On Sep 5, 2018, at 8:03 AM, Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> wrote: > > Doug: > > Boat? 15 or 17? > > So the fitting is the aluminum metal casting? > > Year of boat? > > > :: Dave Scobie > :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com > :: M6'8" #650 > :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com > > On Wed, Sep 5, 2018, 7:50 AM doug <doug9326@gmail.com> wrote: > >> My forestay mast fitting broke and I found out when the mast was down or >> it could have been more serious. I jury rigged a fitting in order to enjoy >> some sailing this last weekend on Odell Lake, Oregon. But now I need to >> know how to permanently replace this fitting where the forestay attaches to >> the mast. I would appreciate any ideas on that one. All there is left is >> the oblong hole in the mast where the fitting used to be.
Thanks again. Rigging looks new with no meathooks. Definitely will use stainless. I took the bolt out that runs through the mast for the shrouds recently. Little did I know that it also holds the forestay. When I saw the forestay had come loose I found that oblong hole in the mast and sure wondered how a fitting could just come loose and out without any tampering or use. Now I know. As usual, its user error, mine.
On Sep 5, 2018, at 1:26 PM, Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> wrote:
Doug.
Yeah ... 15 uses a 1/4" bolt. Get 316 or 18-8 stainless, a nyloc nut and washers. M15 is a simple rig so easy to repair. Check condition of the thimble eye and at the lower end the mechanical swage. Anything seem fishy, or broken wire strands (meathooks) replace the forestay.
M17 is _completely_ different and more difficult to replace as the hardware is out of production. (The two boats only similar in rigging wires as both use 1/8".)
:: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: M6'8" #650 :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com
On Wed, Sep 5, 2018, 1:04 PM doug <doug9326@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Dave. I may get around to posting some photos of my fine little yacht/M-15. She is looking nice with some good rigging, transom mounted ladder, teak rudder, new Honda 2hp, and very clean inside and out.
On Sep 5, 2018, at 8:51 AM, Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> wrote:
Doug:
For the email list you need to reduce the size of the image ... I can't remember the exact size limit but something 200-300MB should be OK (I think).
:: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: M6'8" #650 :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com
On Wed, Sep 5, 2018, 8:41 AM Doug 9326 <doug9326@gmail.com> wrote:
Ok. I will get a photo to you today. Thanks
On Wed, Sep 5, 2018, 9:38 AM Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> wrote:
Ignore the last email - '80 means a 17! (Duh on my part).
A picture will really help as your boat's mast is different shape/size than one you can nkw get now (as the mast manufacturer for your boat is no longer around).
:: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: M6'8" #650 :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com
On Wed, Sep 5, 2018, 8:34 AM Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> wrote:
17 Doug? Or is this a 15?
:: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: M6'8" #650 :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com
On Wed, Sep 5, 2018, 8:31 AM doug <doug9326@gmail.com> wrote:
> The year is 1980. The fitting is whatever it is that holds up the > forestay on the mast. So the mast fitting is the aluminum metal casting > which the forestay is attached to on the mast just above the jib fitting. > >> On Sep 5, 2018, at 8:03 AM, Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Doug: >> >> Boat? 15 or 17? >> >> So the fitting is the aluminum metal casting? >> >> Year of boat? >> >> >> :: Dave Scobie >> :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com >> :: M6'8" #650 >> :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com >> >> On Wed, Sep 5, 2018, 7:50 AM doug <doug9326@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> My forestay mast fitting broke and I found out when the mast was down > or >>> it could have been more serious. I jury rigged a fitting in order to > enjoy >>> some sailing this last weekend on Odell Lake, Oregon. But now I need > to >>> know how to permanently replace this fitting where the forestay > attaches to >>> the mast. I would appreciate any ideas on that one. All there is > left is >>> the oblong hole in the mast where the fitting used to be. > >
That happened on my M-15 several years ago and I was able to drop the mast and jerry rig a fitting from a small bolt and washer I picked up at the local True Value hardware. Now that I have the information from Dave Scobie's e-mail I will probably order a regular fitting and replace the bolt and washer that have worked for many years. I think Odell Lake is a motor free lake, did you have a paddle? Steve M-15 # 335 -----Original Message----- From: doug Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2018 7:48 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: M_Boats: broken forestay mast fitting My forestay mast fitting broke and I found out when the mast was down or it could have been more serious. I jury rigged a fitting in order to enjoy some sailing this last weekend on Odell Lake, Oregon. But now I need to know how to permanently replace this fitting where the forestay attaches to the mast. I would appreciate any ideas on that one. All there is left is the oblong hole in the mast where the fitting used to be. =
Got the answer from Scobie. I was not aware that the headstay is attached to the mast with the stay running through the oblong hole and then captured from within the mast with the bolt that runs through the mast for the shrouds. Makes sense now and thanks so so much for this easy fix. About Odell Lake, it is just fine to have any motor there and many boats do as does mine. Its a big Kokanee fishing lake with well equipped fishing boats. The fishing right now is fantastic for kokanee. The problem with Odell is the wind. It can come up ferociously and does very often so one has to be ready for that. The lake that does not allow motors is Waldo Lake which is accessed just down the highway a mile from the entrance to Odell. People do sail on Waldo though and either walk their boat from the ramp (water is two feet deep) or just sail it out as I did this summer. Doug M-15 Bend, Oregon
On Sep 5, 2018, at 9:31 AM, Steve Trapp <stevetrapp@Q.com> wrote:
That happened on my M-15 several years ago and I was able to drop the mast and jerry rig a fitting from a small bolt and washer I picked up at the local True Value hardware. Now that I have the information from Dave Scobie's e-mail I will probably order a regular fitting and replace the bolt and washer that have worked for many years. I think Odell Lake is a motor free lake, did you have a paddle? Steve M-15 # 335
-----Original Message----- From: doug Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2018 7:48 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: M_Boats: broken forestay mast fitting
My forestay mast fitting broke and I found out when the mast was down or it could have been more serious. I jury rigged a fitting in order to enjoy some sailing this last weekend on Odell Lake, Oregon. But now I need to know how to permanently replace this fitting where the forestay attaches to the mast. I would appreciate any ideas on that one. All there is left is the oblong hole in the mast where the fitting used to be. =
When I was in jr high school I lived in Oakridge, just down the hill from Odel, and lost two classmates who were fishing on Odel in a canoe. The canoe was found the next day, and the bodies drifted to shore a few days later. Take a storm jib! -----Original Message----- From: doug Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 1:02 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: broken forestay mast fitting Got the answer from Scobie. I was not aware that the headstay is attached to the mast with the stay running through the oblong hole and then captured from within the mast with the bolt that runs through the mast for the shrouds. Makes sense now and thanks so so much for this easy fix. About Odell Lake, it is just fine to have any motor there and many boats do as does mine. Its a big Kokanee fishing lake with well equipped fishing boats. The fishing right now is fantastic for kokanee. The problem with Odell is the wind. It can come up ferociously and does very often so one has to be ready for that. The lake that does not allow motors is Waldo Lake which is accessed just down the highway a mile from the entrance to Odell. People do sail on Waldo though and either walk their boat from the ramp (water is two feet deep) or just sail it out as I did this summer. Doug M-15 Bend, Oregon
On Sep 5, 2018, at 9:31 AM, Steve Trapp <stevetrapp@Q.com> wrote:
That happened on my M-15 several years ago and I was able to drop the mast and jerry rig a fitting from a small bolt and washer I picked up at the local True Value hardware. Now that I have the information from Dave Scobie's e-mail I will probably order a regular fitting and replace the bolt and washer that have worked for many years. I think Odell Lake is a motor free lake, did you have a paddle? Steve M-15 # 335
-----Original Message----- From: doug Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2018 7:48 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: M_Boats: broken forestay mast fitting
My forestay mast fitting broke and I found out when the mast was down or it could have been more serious. I jury rigged a fitting in order to enjoy some sailing this last weekend on Odell Lake, Oregon. But now I need to know how to permanently replace this fitting where the forestay attaches to the mast. I would appreciate any ideas on that one. All there is left is the oblong hole in the mast where the fitting used to be. =
Wow. That's a powerful story. Very sorry to hear that news. I understand completely since I was caught in one of Odell Lakes sudden wind uprisings in a kayak. Impossible to paddle against let alone try to sail. Zero to 40kts this last Saturday in less than 30 minutes!! Sent from BlueMail On Sep 5, 2018, 6:52 PM, at 6:52 PM, jerry@jerrymontgomery.org wrote:
When I was in jr high school I lived in Oakridge, just down the hill from Odel, and lost two classmates who were fishing on Odel in a canoe. The
canoe was found the next day, and the bodies drifted to shore a few days later. Take a storm jib!
-----Original Message----- From: doug Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 1:02 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: broken forestay mast fitting
Got the answer from Scobie. I was not aware that the headstay is attached to the mast with the stay running through the oblong hole and then captured from within the mast with the bolt that runs through the mast for the shrouds. Makes sense now and thanks so so much for this easy fix. About Odell Lake, it is just fine to have any motor there and many boats do as does mine. Its a big Kokanee fishing lake with well equipped fishing boats. The fishing right now is fantastic for kokanee. The problem with Odell is the wind. It can come up ferociously and does very often so one has to be ready for that. The lake that does not allow motors is Waldo Lake which is accessed just down the highway a mile from the entrance to Odell. People do sail on Waldo though and either walk their boat from the ramp
(water is two feet deep) or just sail it out as I did this summer.
Doug M-15 Bend, Oregon
On Sep 5, 2018, at 9:31 AM, Steve Trapp <stevetrapp@Q.com> wrote:
That happened on my M-15 several years ago and I was able to drop the mast and jerry rig a fitting from a small bolt and washer I picked up at the local True Value hardware. Now that I have the information from Dave Scobie's e-mail I will probably order a regular fitting and replace the bolt and washer that have worked for many years. I think Odell Lake is a motor free lake, did you have a paddle? Steve M-15 # 335
-----Original Message----- From: doug Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2018 7:48 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: M_Boats: broken forestay mast fitting
My forestay mast fitting broke and I found out when the mast was down or it could have been more serious. I jury rigged a fitting in order to
enjoy some sailing this last weekend on Odell Lake, Oregon. But now I need to know how to permanently replace this fitting where the forestay attaches to the mast. I would appreciate any ideas on that one. All
there is left is the oblong hole in the mast where the fitting used to be. =
Jerry, I taught school in Lowell for about five years, if memory serves, Oakridge was up Hwy 58 a few more miles, towed my M-15 up to Odell Lake a few times. Am sure that was many years after you had finished jr. high. Steve M-15 # 335 -----Original Message----- From: jerry@jerrymontgomery.org Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2018 5:45 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: broken forestay mast fitting When I was in jr high school I lived in Oakridge, just down the hill from Odel, and lost two classmates who were fishing on Odel in a canoe. The canoe was found the next day, and the bodies drifted to shore a few days later. Take a storm jib! -----Original Message----- From: doug Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 1:02 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: broken forestay mast fitting Got the answer from Scobie. I was not aware that the headstay is attached to the mast with the stay running through the oblong hole and then captured from within the mast with the bolt that runs through the mast for the shrouds. Makes sense now and thanks so so much for this easy fix. About Odell Lake, it is just fine to have any motor there and many boats do as does mine. Its a big Kokanee fishing lake with well equipped fishing boats. The fishing right now is fantastic for kokanee. The problem with Odell is the wind. It can come up ferociously and does very often so one has to be ready for that. The lake that does not allow motors is Waldo Lake which is accessed just down the highway a mile from the entrance to Odell. People do sail on Waldo though and either walk their boat from the ramp (water is two feet deep) or just sail it out as I did this summer. Doug M-15 Bend, Oregon
On Sep 5, 2018, at 9:31 AM, Steve Trapp <stevetrapp@Q.com> wrote:
That happened on my M-15 several years ago and I was able to drop the mast and jerry rig a fitting from a small bolt and washer I picked up at the local True Value hardware. Now that I have the information from Dave Scobie's e-mail I will probably order a regular fitting and replace the bolt and washer that have worked for many years. I think Odell Lake is a motor free lake, did you have a paddle? Steve M-15 # 335
-----Original Message----- From: doug Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2018 7:48 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: M_Boats: broken forestay mast fitting
My forestay mast fitting broke and I found out when the mast was down or it could have been more serious. I jury rigged a fitting in order to enjoy some sailing this last weekend on Odell Lake, Oregon. But now I need to know how to permanently replace this fitting where the forestay attaches to the mast. I would appreciate any ideas on that one. All there is left is the oblong hole in the mast where the fitting used to be. =
I've got some soft spots for Oakridge, altho the spotted owl has taken it's toll there, like all the small logging towns on the W slope of the Cascades and the entire Coast Range. most of them now are meth- amphetamine city and everybody is on welfare. I'm currently re-reading Tom Sawyer, and Huck waking Tom by tapping on his window to get him up in the morning; I lived just across the hwy from the river and my buddy Charlie would come by with his shotgun in the wee hours, tap my window, and we'd go down, sit by the river, waiting for some unfortunate duck to fly by, until time for school. A good way to grow up, close to impossible nowdays. We fished in Odell Lake- big mackinaw, but that was way before them sailboats. -----Original Message----- From: Steve Trapp Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 12:49 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: broken forestay mast fitting Jerry, I taught school in Lowell for about five years, if memory serves, Oakridge was up Hwy 58 a few more miles, towed my M-15 up to Odell Lake a few times. Am sure that was many years after you had finished jr. high. Steve M-15 # 335 -----Original Message----- From: jerry@jerrymontgomery.org Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2018 5:45 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: broken forestay mast fitting When I was in jr high school I lived in Oakridge, just down the hill from Odel, and lost two classmates who were fishing on Odel in a canoe. The canoe was found the next day, and the bodies drifted to shore a few days later. Take a storm jib! -----Original Message----- From: doug Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 1:02 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: broken forestay mast fitting Got the answer from Scobie. I was not aware that the headstay is attached to the mast with the stay running through the oblong hole and then captured from within the mast with the bolt that runs through the mast for the shrouds. Makes sense now and thanks so so much for this easy fix. About Odell Lake, it is just fine to have any motor there and many boats do as does mine. Its a big Kokanee fishing lake with well equipped fishing boats. The fishing right now is fantastic for kokanee. The problem with Odell is the wind. It can come up ferociously and does very often so one has to be ready for that. The lake that does not allow motors is Waldo Lake which is accessed just down the highway a mile from the entrance to Odell. People do sail on Waldo though and either walk their boat from the ramp (water is two feet deep) or just sail it out as I did this summer. Doug M-15 Bend, Oregon
On Sep 5, 2018, at 9:31 AM, Steve Trapp <stevetrapp@Q.com> wrote:
That happened on my M-15 several years ago and I was able to drop the mast and jerry rig a fitting from a small bolt and washer I picked up at the local True Value hardware. Now that I have the information from Dave Scobie's e-mail I will probably order a regular fitting and replace the bolt and washer that have worked for many years. I think Odell Lake is a motor free lake, did you have a paddle? Steve M-15 # 335
-----Original Message----- From: doug Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2018 7:48 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: M_Boats: broken forestay mast fitting
My forestay mast fitting broke and I found out when the mast was down or it could have been more serious. I jury rigged a fitting in order to enjoy some sailing this last weekend on Odell Lake, Oregon. But now I need to know how to permanently replace this fitting where the forestay attaches to the mast. I would appreciate any ideas on that one. All there is left is the oblong hole in the mast where the fitting used to be. =
Yup! Times have changed and it hurts. But wind, a sail and a simple boat have not changed. I still love the focus that comes as those three harmonize together on a lake or sound. Been that way for 55 years. Sent from BlueMail On Sep 10, 2018, 3:40 PM, at 3:40 PM, jerry@jerrymontgomery.org wrote:
I've got some soft spots for Oakridge, altho the spotted owl has taken it's toll there, like all the small logging towns on the W slope of the Cascades and the entire Coast Range. most of them now are meth- amphetamine city and everybody is on welfare. I'm currently re-reading Tom Sawyer, and Huck
waking Tom by tapping on his window to get him up in the morning; I lived just across the hwy from the river and my buddy Charlie would come by with his shotgun in the wee hours, tap my window, and we'd go down, sit by the river, waiting for some unfortunate duck to fly by, until time for school. A good way to grow up, close to impossible nowdays.
We fished in Odell Lake- big mackinaw, but that was way before them sailboats.
-----Original Message----- From: Steve Trapp Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 12:49 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: broken forestay mast fitting
Jerry, I taught school in Lowell for about five years, if memory serves, Oakridge was up Hwy 58 a few more miles, towed my M-15 up to Odell Lake a few times. Am sure that was many years after you had finished jr. high. Steve M-15 # 335
-----Original Message----- From: jerry@jerrymontgomery.org Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2018 5:45 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: broken forestay mast fitting
When I was in jr high school I lived in Oakridge, just down the hill from Odel, and lost two classmates who were fishing on Odel in a canoe. The canoe was found the next day, and the bodies drifted to shore a few days later. Take a storm jib!
-----Original Message----- From: doug Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 1:02 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: broken forestay mast fitting
Got the answer from Scobie. I was not aware that the headstay is attached to the mast with the stay running through the oblong hole and then captured from within the mast with the bolt that runs through the mast for the shrouds. Makes sense now and thanks so so much for this easy fix. About Odell Lake, it is just fine to have any motor there and many boats do as does mine. Its a big Kokanee fishing lake with well equipped fishing boats. The fishing right now is fantastic for kokanee. The problem with Odell is the wind. It can come up ferociously and does very often so one has to be ready for that. The lake that does not allow motors is Waldo Lake which is accessed just down the highway a mile from the entrance to Odell. People do sail on Waldo though and either walk their boat from the ramp (water is two feet deep) or just sail it out as I did this summer.
Doug M-15 Bend, Oregon
On Sep 5, 2018, at 9:31 AM, Steve Trapp <stevetrapp@Q.com> wrote:
That happened on my M-15 several years ago and I was able to drop the mast and jerry rig a fitting from a small bolt and washer I picked up at the local True Value hardware. Now that I have the information from Dave Scobie's e-mail I will probably order a regular fitting and replace the bolt and washer that have worked for many years. I think Odell Lake is a motor free lake, did you have a paddle? Steve M-15 # 335
-----Original Message----- From: doug Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2018 7:48 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: M_Boats: broken forestay mast fitting
My forestay mast fitting broke and I found out when the mast was down or it could have been more serious. I jury rigged a fitting in order to
enjoy some sailing this last weekend on Odell Lake, Oregon. But now I need to know how to permanently replace this fitting where the forestay attaches to the mast. I would appreciate any ideas on that one. All
there is left is the oblong hole in the mast where the fitting used to be. =
EXCELLENT ! and I whole heartedly agree......... and I think so would Jerry M. Bill T.....Duckworks sailmaker -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Doug Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 4:47 PM To: For and About Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: broken forestay mast fitting Yup! Times have changed and it hurts. But wind, a sail and a simple boat have not changed. I still love the focus that comes as those three harmonize together on a lake or sound. Been that way for 55 years. Sent from BlueMail On Sep 10, 2018, 3:40 PM, at 3:40 PM, jerry@jerrymontgomery.org wrote:
I've got some soft spots for Oakridge, altho the spotted owl has taken it's toll there, like all the small logging towns on the W slope of the Cascades and the entire Coast Range. most of them now are meth- amphetamine city and everybody is on welfare. I'm currently re-reading Tom Sawyer, and Huck
waking Tom by tapping on his window to get him up in the morning; I lived just across the hwy from the river and my buddy Charlie would come by with his shotgun in the wee hours, tap my window, and we'd go down, sit by the river, waiting for some unfortunate duck to fly by, until time for school. A good way to grow up, close to impossible nowdays.
We fished in Odell Lake- big mackinaw, but that was way before them sailboats.
-----Original Message----- From: Steve Trapp Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 12:49 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: broken forestay mast fitting
Jerry, I taught school in Lowell for about five years, if memory serves, Oakridge was up Hwy 58 a few more miles, towed my M-15 up to Odell Lake a few times. Am sure that was many years after you had finished jr. high. Steve M-15 # 335
-----Original Message----- From: jerry@jerrymontgomery.org Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2018 5:45 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: broken forestay mast fitting
When I was in jr high school I lived in Oakridge, just down the hill from Odel, and lost two classmates who were fishing on Odel in a canoe. The canoe was found the next day, and the bodies drifted to shore a few days later. Take a storm jib!
-----Original Message----- From: doug Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 1:02 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: broken forestay mast fitting
Got the answer from Scobie. I was not aware that the headstay is attached to the mast with the stay running through the oblong hole and then captured from within the mast with the bolt that runs through the mast for the shrouds. Makes sense now and thanks so so much for this easy fix. About Odell Lake, it is just fine to have any motor there and many boats do as does mine. Its a big Kokanee fishing lake with well equipped fishing boats. The fishing right now is fantastic for kokanee. The problem with Odell is the wind. It can come up ferociously and does very often so one has to be ready for that. The lake that does not allow motors is Waldo Lake which is accessed just down the highway a mile from the entrance to Odell. People do sail on Waldo though and either walk their boat from the ramp (water is two feet deep) or just sail it out as I did this summer.
Doug M-15 Bend, Oregon
On Sep 5, 2018, at 9:31 AM, Steve Trapp <stevetrapp@Q.com> wrote:
That happened on my M-15 several years ago and I was able to drop the mast and jerry rig a fitting from a small bolt and washer I picked up at the local True Value hardware. Now that I have the information from Dave Scobie's e-mail I will probably order a regular fitting and replace the bolt and washer that have worked for many years. I think Odell Lake is a motor free lake, did you have a paddle? Steve M-15 # 335
-----Original Message----- From: doug Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2018 7:48 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: M_Boats: broken forestay mast fitting
My forestay mast fitting broke and I found out when the mast was down or it could have been more serious. I jury rigged a fitting in order to
enjoy some sailing this last weekend on Odell Lake, Oregon. But now I need to know how to permanently replace this fitting where the forestay attaches to the mast. I would appreciate any ideas on that one. All
there is left is the oblong hole in the mast where the fitting used to be. =
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