Tim, One of my concerns is oder and leakage. The product literature say: "The bags are biodegradable; they are made with a patented blend of polymers and natural starches to break down in landfill conditions after 6-8 months, depending on conditions. There are two bags; one funnel-shaped waste collection bag pre-loaded with Pooh Powder waste treatment used to contain the waste, and a heavy gauge zip close bag (12" x 10") to secure and transport waste." In other areas of their lit. they specfically say the pooh powder eliminates the oder. You can buy extra Pooh Powder if you want. Thanks Doug Tim Diebert <tim@timtone.com> wrote: Hey Doug, I am pretty sure that is just a fancy bunch of plastic that holds a plastic bag in the correct target area. I have used a short bucket with smaller heavy plastic bags for the same thing. A plywood 'seat' makes it more comfy. I used a commercial grade (like for food related stuff) bucket....like a five gallon job, but half the hieght. This size fits well on a boat and came be used for other stuff as well. I have a nice portapotti these days, but still keep the bucket onboard for washing the boat etc. I can tell you one thing.....no matter how many layers of bags you use (I have gone up to three) a collection of those bags and thier related contents will still somehow reek a coupla days later while cruising. Get rid of them asap. (this is the tricky part) Tim in Kelowna M17 Puff. -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Doug Kelch Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 6:57 AM To: Montgomery Subject: M_Boats: dry portable toilet This dry collapsible toilet looks very practical as an alternative to a porta potti. http://www.thepett.com/ Has anyone used them? They are only $90 at REI Thanks Doug Kelch --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.1/1183 - Release Date: 12/13/2007 9:15 AM _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.

Cat litter will do the same job as the poo powder,,,,,,works good.,,,,just dump a cup in the plastic bag before use and it absorbs a great deal of the liquid and kills the oder.... http://www.tcboats.com/blwood2.htm Bill M17 ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Smith To: 'For and about Montgomery Sailboats' Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 10:16 AM Subject: RE: M_Boats: dry portable toilet--boom box We've used a boom box on river trips for many years. This device is good because it addressed Doug's concerned about smell and leak. The porta-potties on M-boats are a good idea, and a compelling feature, and they look good mounted in their thoughtfully designed places, but they are a real PITA to maintain. See the boom box here: www.eco-safe.net As I said, it works great on rivers, but it has to be set up and broken down for use. Not so hot for m-boating I think... The key to any alternative shitter is WAG bags. Because they are bio-degradable, they can be legally disposed of in garbage cans and dumpsters (I'm not sure about vault toilets--I'll have to research that). tom _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats