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Jerry Is it a Lapstrake hull and how about teak trim? Eldor M17 Motu iti
Yes, lapstrake, and the trim hasn't been decided yet. First things first! jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: <eisenee@aol.com> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 7:22 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: more market research!
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Chuck the teak! Go with a full perforated aluminum toe rail and machine all the other stuff, hatch boards, hatch board trim, aux engine mount, and any other trim, from HDPE. Damn! it's 2009 You can still make a salty looking, great performing boat and reduce the maintenance. Or, I guess you could offer teak for all those guys out there who have nothing better to do with their time than varnish, Me I'd rather sail OOPS ! did I write this out loud M Escovedo M17 F/D #103 AMY P.S. HDPE comes in colors, maybe a mahogany brown would fit the bill. ________________________________ From: jerry <jerry@jerrymontgomery.org> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 8:04:50 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: more market research! Yes, lapstrake, and the trim hasn't been decided yet. First things first! jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: <eisenee@aol.com> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 7:22 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: more market research!
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I agree. No teak trim. Use stainless or aluminum where required. I am thinking of adding a stainless rub rail below the teak toe rail on the fiberglass flange. Grab rails on top of the cabin top could be stainless. Bill Wickett M17 #622 On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 5:21 AM, Mark Escovedo <m17flushdeck_amy@yahoo.com>wrote:
Chuck the teak! Go with a full perforated aluminum toe rail and machine all the other stuff, hatch boards, hatch board trim, aux engine mount, and any other trim, from HDPE. Damn! it's 2009 You can still make a salty looking, great performing boat and reduce the maintenance. Or, I guess you could offer teak for all those guys out there who have nothing better to do with their time than varnish, Me I'd rather sail OOPS ! did I write this out loud
M Escovedo M17 F/D #103 AMY
P.S. HDPE comes in colors, maybe a mahogany brown would fit the bill.
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Yes, lapstrake, and the trim hasn't been decided yet. First things first!
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Are there any manufacturers out there making HDPE handrails. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Wickett" <billwick@gmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 7:49 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: more market research!
I agree. No teak trim. Use stainless or aluminum where required. I am thinking of adding a stainless rub rail below the teak toe rail on the fiberglass flange. Grab rails on top of the cabin top could be stainless.
Bill Wickett M17 #622 On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 5:21 AM, Mark Escovedo <m17flushdeck_amy@yahoo.com>wrote:
Chuck the teak! Go with a full perforated aluminum toe rail and machine all the other stuff, hatch boards, hatch board trim, aux engine mount, and any other trim, from HDPE. Damn! it's 2009 You can still make a salty looking, great performing boat and reduce the maintenance. Or, I guess you could offer teak for all those guys out there who have nothing better to do with their time than varnish, Me I'd rather sail OOPS ! did I write this out loud
M Escovedo M17 F/D #103 AMY
P.S. HDPE comes in colors, maybe a mahogany brown would fit the bill.
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Yes, lapstrake, and the trim hasn't been decided yet. First things first!
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Mark, Bill and the others are completely right about teak being just another maintenance issue. BUT what they forgot about teak trim is that CHICKS DIG IT. Toe rail trim doesn't affect seaworthiness or speed, and teak will be another factor that visually sets the M-16.5 apart from the clorox bottles (along with a lapstrake hull, ivory gelcoat, and opening port(s)). So this is the capitalist in me talking, and forgive me if I'm assuming too much: I suspect the M-16.5 is going to be a bit more pricey then a Potter or Catalina or Precision. If the M-16.5 is going to be successful it's not enough that we True Believers know it's heads and shoulders above the competition - It also has to look like something special to our significant others, and those who are not as enlightened as we. But somehow, Jerry, I think you already know this... By the way, ever since I was 12 years old I've wanted to tell a professional boatbuilder/designer how his boats should REALLY be designed and built. Thanks for giving me the opportunity. Jim M-17 "Spirit"
must be some accent teak. the teak toe-rail, cabin-top grab-rails, and cabin entry give just enough 'salt' to match the lapstrake. SWEET PEA, having the alum toe-rails looks a bit more utilitarian ... but all those attachment points are nice. i've been around some boats with stainless grab rails ... nice idea ... but HOT to grab after they sit in the sun. alum hanb rails just SCREAMS macgregor 26 or a stinkpotter IMO. i've also toasted my feet on SWEET PEA's alum. toe-rails. teak doesn't' get all that hot ;-) i enjoy doing teak work. i've 'brought back' two Mboats teak. both were just a few days work and with proper monthly care (i'm a sea fin teak oil fan) i'll not need to do any significant teak projects for many many years. my 'teak experience' comes from a choey lee ... now those boats have TEAK! dave scobie M17 #375 - SWEET PEA visit SWEET PEA's www-site - http://www.m17-375.webs.com --- On Wed, 8/12/09, James Poulakis <picfo@comcast.net> wrote: Mark, Bill and the others are completely right about teak being just another maintenance issue. BUT what they forgot about teak trim is that CHICKS DIG IT. Toe rail trim doesn't affect seaworthiness or speed, and teak will be another factor that visually sets the M-16.5 apart from the clorox bottles (along with a lapstrake hull, ivory gelcoat, and opening port(s)). So this is the capitalist in me talking, and forgive me if I'm assuming too much: I suspect the M-16.5 is going to be a bit more pricey then a Potter or Catalina or Precision. If the M-16.5 is going to be successful it's not enough that we True Believers know it's heads and shoulders above the competition - It also has to look like something special to our significant others, and those who are not as enlightened as we. But somehow, Jerry, I think you already know this... By the way, ever since I was 12 years old I've wanted to tell a professional boatbuilder/designer how his boats should REALLY be designed and built. Thanks for giving me the opportunity. Jim M-17 "Spirit"
Any thoughts on a canoe stern?? Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: "jerry" <jerry@jerrymontgomery.org> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 11:04 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: more market research!
Yes, lapstrake, and the trim hasn't been decided yet. First things first!
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Ooooh I hadn't thought of a canoe stern, kinda like a Nordica 16? http://www.nordicaboats.com/html/nordica-16.html That might be neat. --Chad On Aug 12, 2009, at 10:35 AM, Joe Murphy wrote:
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Yes, lapstrake, and the trim hasn't been decided yet. First things first!
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Cockpit and locker space would be compromised somewhat. I also believe that a transom stern will be somewhat faster. Bill On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Chad Parrish <cparrish@fafnirnet.net>wrote:
Ooooh I hadn't thought of a canoe stern, kinda like a Nordica 16? http://www.nordicaboats.com/html/nordica-16.html
That might be neat.
--Chad
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Yes, lapstrake, and the trim hasn't been decided yet. First things
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Hi Bill and Others I like a canoe stern and my Dovekie has one but it confounds use of an outboard and boarding ladder. Both now have to operate from the side in commonly used solutions. Cliff in PA On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Bill Wickett <billwick@gmail.com> wrote:
Cockpit and locker space would be compromised somewhat. I also believe that a transom stern will be somewhat faster.
Bill
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Ooooh I hadn't thought of a canoe stern, kinda like a Nordica 16? http://www.nordicaboats.com/html/nordica-16.html
That might be neat.
--Chad
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Any thoughts on a canoe stern??
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Yes, lapstrake, and the trim hasn't been decided yet. First things
first!
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I think that's the bottom line, in my opinion. Lyle told me once that he didn't totally approve of the NS stern and would rather have had a transom. In one of my old, old boat design books the writer talks about them and says that the reason is strength (in a planked boat), and that the stern might help part following waves (kind of like Moses). jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Wickett" <billwick@gmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 9:22 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: more market research!
Cockpit and locker space would be compromised somewhat. I also believe that a transom stern will be somewhat faster.
Bill
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Chad Parrish <cparrish@fafnirnet.net>wrote:
Ooooh I hadn't thought of a canoe stern, kinda like a Nordica 16? http://www.nordicaboats.com/html/nordica-16.html
That might be neat.
--Chad
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Yes, lapstrake, and the trim hasn't been decided yet. First things
first!
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Not to mention reduced initial stability (stemming from reduced waterplane area). How about THIS idea?: Lapstrake ABOVE the waterline for looks Smooth BELOW for easier bottom cleaning
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I think that's the bottom line, in my opinion. Lyle told me once that he didn't totally approve of the NS stern and would rather have had a transom. In one of my old, old boat design books the writer talks about them and says that the reason is strength (in a planked boat), and that the stern might help part following waves (kind of like Moses). jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Wickett" <billwick@gmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 9:22 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: more market research!
Cockpit and locker space would be compromised somewhat. I also believe that a transom stern will be somewhat faster.
Bill
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Chad Parrish <cparrish@fafnirnet.net>wrote:
Ooooh I hadn't thought of a canoe stern, kinda like a Nordica 16? http://www.nordicaboats.com/html/nordica-16.html
That might be neat.
--Chad
On Aug 12, 2009, at 10:35 AM, Joe Murphy wrote:
Any thoughts on a canoe stern??
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Yes, lapstrake, and the trim hasn't been decided yet. First things
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I think pointy sterns got to be a fad in the '70's after the double- enders "Suhaili" and "Joshua" were the only ones to survive the Golden Globe race. But afterwards, even Bernard Moitessier said he thought a transom stern would have worked as well or better. Jim M-17 "Spirit" On Aug 12, 2009, at 3:34 PM, <htmills@zoominternet.net> wrote:
Not to mention reduced initial stability (stemming from reduced waterplane area).
How about THIS idea?:
Lapstrake ABOVE the waterline for looks Smooth BELOW for easier bottom cleaning
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I think that's the bottom line, in my opinion. Lyle told me once that he didn't totally approve of the NS stern and would rather have had a transom. In one of my old, old boat design books the writer talks about them and says that the reason is strength (in a planked boat), and that the stern might help part following waves (kind of like Moses). jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Wickett" <billwick@gmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 9:22 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: more market research!
Cockpit and locker space would be compromised somewhat. I also believe that a transom stern will be somewhat faster.
Bill
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Chad Parrish <cparrish@fafnirnet.net>wrote:
Ooooh I hadn't thought of a canoe stern, kinda like a Nordica 16? http://www.nordicaboats.com/html/nordica-16.html
That might be neat.
--Chad
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Any thoughts on a canoe stern??
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Yes, lapstrake, and the trim hasn't been decided yet. First things
first!
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Oooh, Oooh. I like it! In fact originally when I started to prime/paint the M17 I thought "Well at least when I get below the waterline the sanding will get easier....duh" ----- Original Message ----- From: <htmills@zoominternet.net> To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 6:34 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: more market research!
Not to mention reduced initial stability (stemming from reduced waterplane area).
How about THIS idea?:
Lapstrake ABOVE the waterline for looks Smooth BELOW for easier bottom cleaning
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I think that's the bottom line, in my opinion. Lyle told me once that he didn't totally approve of the NS stern and would rather have had a transom. In one of my old, old boat design books the writer talks about them and says that the reason is strength (in a planked boat), and that the stern might help part following waves (kind of like Moses). jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Wickett" <billwick@gmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 9:22 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: more market research!
Cockpit and locker space would be compromised somewhat. I also believe that a transom stern will be somewhat faster.
Bill
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Chad Parrish <cparrish@fafnirnet.net>wrote:
Ooooh I hadn't thought of a canoe stern, kinda like a Nordica 16? http://www.nordicaboats.com/html/nordica-16.html
That might be neat.
--Chad
On Aug 12, 2009, at 10:35 AM, Joe Murphy wrote:
Any thoughts on a canoe stern??
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Yes, lapstrake, and the trim hasn't been decided yet. First things
first!
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You mean we want Jerry to start producing the Skipper sailboats? http://www.sailingtexas.com/sskipper20a.html
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Ooooh I hadn't thought of a canoe stern, kinda like a Nordica 16? http://www.nordicaboats.com/html/nordica-16.html
That might be neat.
--Chad
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Any thoughts on a canoe stern?? Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: "jerry" <jerry@jerrymontgomery.org> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com
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Yes, lapstrake, and the trim hasn't been decided yet. First things first!
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Always a question of where you put the boarding ladder on a double ender. Any place doesn't look great in my eyes. Bill On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 12:53 PM, <htmills@zoominternet.net> wrote:
You mean we want Jerry to start producing the Skipper sailboats?
http://www.sailingtexas.com/sskipper20a.html
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Chad Parrish Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 11:57 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: more market research!
Ooooh I hadn't thought of a canoe stern, kinda like a Nordica 16? http://www.nordicaboats.com/html/nordica-16.html
That might be neat.
--Chad
On Aug 12, 2009, at 10:35 AM, Joe Murphy wrote:
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I had a stern ladder on my NS. It folded up against the stern pulpit. It was out of the way and looked fine. Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Wickett" <billwick@gmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 1:06 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: more market research!
Always a question of where you put the boarding ladder on a double ender. Any place doesn't look great in my eyes.
Bill
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 12:53 PM, <htmills@zoominternet.net> wrote:
You mean we want Jerry to start producing the Skipper sailboats?
http://www.sailingtexas.com/sskipper20a.html
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Ooooh I hadn't thought of a canoe stern, kinda like a Nordica 16? http://www.nordicaboats.com/html/nordica-16.html
That might be neat.
--Chad
On Aug 12, 2009, at 10:35 AM, Joe Murphy wrote:
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Yes, lapstrake, and the trim hasn't been decided yet. First things first!
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i agree ... i also think an outboard hung on such a stern looks worse than an ladder (not that one looks good on the stern of the M15/17/23). guess if a double ender the 16 becomes an inboard ... lol dave scobie M17 #375 - SWEET PEA visit SWEET PEA's www-site - http://www.m17-375.webs.com --- On Wed, 8/12/09, Bill Wickett <billwick@gmail.com> wrote: Always a question of where you put the boarding ladder on a double ender. Any place doesn't look great in my eyes. Bill On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 12:53 PM, <htmills@zoominternet.net> wrote:
You mean we want Jerry to start producing the Skipper sailboats?
http://www.sailingtexas.com/sskipper20a.html
-----Original Message----- From: Chad Parrish Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 11:57 AM
Ooooh I hadn't thought of a canoe stern, kinda like a Nordica 16? http://www.nordicaboats.com/html/nordica-16.html
That might be neat.
--Chad
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Any thoughts on a canoe stern?? Joe
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