I have a 2005 M-17 which I bought last summer from the original owner - it came with Elliot-Pattison sails as original equipment, and they are first-rate in both construction and performance. I have a furling genoa on order from them now which should come in the mail this week. Their lead time a month ago was around four to six weeks. My contact with the company during the buying operation through Harry Pattison was great - he was very helpful (and patient) in answering questions and volunteering useful information. Rick ************** Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom00...)