I might be certifiable for this but even having just put our recently purchased Montgomery 17 in the water for the fist time, I stumbled across something interesting this morning. I saw (only pictures at this point)of a Victoria 18 and trailer that can be bought for $750.00 If the hull is sound and the trailer usable this seems like an absolute steal, although I don't know anything about the boats. I like the size of the cockpit, and the lines, but don't think I would want a fixed keel for the type sailing we'll do even if it's Shoal Draft. I love buying older boats that I can do "fixer upper" things to as long as the needs don't push my abilities too far. The first sailboat I did this with after first starting with rowboats and dinghys was a Montgomery 12! If this is one of those "projects in waiting" shouldn't a boat like this be worth $2-3K in most places if put into decent shape? Do any of you know about the quality of construction on these boats? I realize you can design a "salty looking hull" that is actually a cheap piece of plastic(I'll refrain from naming some), and I'm wondering where these sit on the spectrum of design and construction reputation? Rodney Holland Texas Doghouse
There was a complete review of this boat in Small Craft Advisor some time ago. And I bought a video from this mag on a small boat regatta....and one of the boats they did a video tour of was a Victoria 18. Other than being a bit shorter, an almost identical design to the boat I learned to sail on 30 years ago. A Hill 21. (there were only a half dozen Hills ever made) Cheers TD -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Rodney Holland Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 7:44 AM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: Victoria 18's? I might be certifiable for this but even having just put our recently purchased Montgomery 17 in the water for the fist time, I stumbled across something interesting this morning. I saw (only pictures at this point)of a Victoria 18 and trailer that can be bought for $750.00 If the hull is sound and the trailer usable this seems like an absolute steal, although I don't know anything about the boats. I like the size of the cockpit, and the lines, but don't think I would want a fixed keel for the type sailing we'll do even if it's Shoal Draft. I love buying older boats that I can do "fixer upper" things to as long as the needs don't push my abilities too far. The first sailboat I did this with after first starting with rowboats and dinghys was a Montgomery 12! If this is one of those "projects in waiting" shouldn't a boat like this be worth $2-3K in most places if put into decent shape? Do any of you know about the quality of construction on these boats? I realize you can design a "salty looking hull" that is actually a cheap piece of plastic(I'll refrain from naming some), and I'm wondering where these sit on the spectrum of design and construction reputation? Rodney Holland Texas Doghouse _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1345 - Release Date: 3/26/2008 6:50 PM
HI Rodney, A yard here had a pair of Vic 18s on the lot for awhile, they have since both sold. The only thing I didn't like about them was the molded in fake wood on the deck, its a silly reason not to buy a boat, but it did keep me away as I knew it would bug me forever. I liked the lines and the construction seemed reasonable. For $750 if the trailer was in good enough shape to bring it home, I probably would buy it. Its always nice to have "spare" boats :-) ---Chad On Mar 27, 2008, at 9:43 AM, Rodney Holland wrote:
I might be certifiable for this but even having just put our recently purchased Montgomery 17 in the water for the fist time, I stumbled across something interesting this morning. I saw (only pictures at this point)of a Victoria 18 and trailer that can be bought for $750.00 If the hull is sound and the trailer usable this seems like an absolute steal, although I don't know anything about the boats. I like the size of the cockpit, and the lines, but don't think I would want a fixed keel for the type sailing we'll do even if it's Shoal Draft. I love buying older boats that I can do "fixer upper" things to as long as the needs don't push my abilities too far. The first sailboat I did this with after first starting with rowboats and dinghys was a Montgomery 12! If this is one of those "projects in waiting" shouldn't a boat like this be worth $2-3K in most places if put into decent shape? Do any of you know about the quality of construction on these boats? I realize you can design a "salty looking hull" that is actually a cheap piece of plastic(I'll refrain from naming some), and I'm wondering where these sit on the spectrum of design and construction reputation?
Rodney Holland Texas Doghouse
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Rodney, if you will send me a note with a telephone number, I can connect you with a friend who has a Victoria 18. He might give you some insight. John in Tucson Former M17FD Coyote -----Original Message----- From: Rodney Holland <rodh@earthlink.net> To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 7:43 am Subject: M_Boats: Victoria 18's? I might be certifiable for this but even having just put our recently purchased Montgomery 17 in the water for the fist time, I stumbled across something interesting this morning. I saw (only pictures at this point)of a Victoria 18 and trailer that can be bought for $750.00 If the hull is sound and the trailer usable this seems like an absolute steal, although I don't know anything about the boats. I like the size of the cockpit, and the lines, but don't think I would want a fixed keel for the type sailing we'll do even if it's Shoal Draft. I love buying older boats that I can do "fixer upper" things to as long as the needs don't push my abilities too far. The first sailboat I did this with after first starting with rowboats and dinghys was a Montgomery 12! If this is one of those "projects in waiting" shouldn't a boat like this be worth $2-3K in most places if put into decent shape? Do any of you know about the quality of construction on these boats? I realize you can design a "salty looking hull" that is actually a cheap piece of plastic(I'll refrain from naming some), and I'm wondering where these sit on the spectrum of design and construction reputation? Rodney Holland Texas Doghouse _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
I owned a Victoria for many years, and really liked it's look and how it handled. It did have a severe weather helm, and almost no interior space. Not much space in general, but pretty. Based on a Canadian design, from Bluenose yachts in Novea Scotia. Bill McVay moved to Florida, and built them there for a few years. Last produced in the early '80s. There was a good web page for them, but I've misplaced it. A fine day boat, but the Montgomery is superior in every way. That said, I'd buy another for $750 if it was half good. TH Thomas Howe Mailto:Thomas@TEHowe.com O --------(\ ---------- ~ (\ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ (\ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of jslubliner@aol.com Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 12:07 PM To: rodh@earthlink.net; montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: Victoria 18's? Rodney, if you will send me a note with a telephone number, I can connect you with a friend who has a Victoria 18. He might give you some insight. John in Tucson Former M17FD Coyote -----Original Message----- From: Rodney Holland <rodh@earthlink.net> To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 7:43 am Subject: M_Boats: Victoria 18's? I might be certifiable for this but even having just put our recently purchased Montgomery 17 in the water for the fist time, I stumbled across something interesting this morning. I saw (only pictures at this point)of a Victoria 18 and trailer that can be bought for $750.00 If the hull is sound and the trailer usable this seems like an absolute steal, although I don't know anything about the boats. I like the size of the cockpit, and the lines, but don't think I would want a fixed keel for the type sailing we'll do even if it's Shoal Draft. I love buying older boats that I can do "fixer upper" things to as long as the needs don't push my abilities too far. The first sailboat I did this with after first starting with rowboats and dinghys was a Montgomery 12! If this is one of those "projects in waiting" shouldn't a boat like this be worth $2-3K in most places if put into decent shape? Do any of you know about the quality of construction on these boats? I realize you can design a "salty looking hull" that is actually a cheap piece of plastic(I'll refrain from naming some), and I'm wondering where these sit on the spectrum of design and construction reputation? Rodney Holland Texas Doghouse _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
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