Re: M_Boats: Sliding Goosenecks for newbies
Tom, Buy something called a "sail track stop" and install it in the mast track just below the gooseneck. $9.49 at westmarine.com. Be sure to get the right size. Ernie Priestley No Boat Yet ----- Original Message ---- From: Tom Jenkins <tjenk@gte.net> To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 1:35:19 PM Subject: M_Boats: Sliding Goosenecks for newbies I have been looking over the rigging on my recently purchased 2004 M17 in anticipation of the first mast raising, and I notice that the boom is attached to the mast with a sliding gooseneck rather than a fixed mast bracket. The gooseneck has a ring on the bottom with two or three feet of tagline attached. I seems most logical to position it just below the entry slot with the line to a mast cleat pulling down, and the tension of the main halyard on the boltrope keeping it up. However, I envision the boom sliding to the deck when the main is lowered. I would be most grateful if someone out there could tell me how this should really be done. Some months back I ran across a simple rigging guide for the 17 on the web, but now that I have such a boat, it has disappeared into cyberspace. I suppose in the best of all possible worlds, detailed guides for rigging and sailing the Montgomery boats would be available on CD for $5 + S/H. Sure, trial and error eventually prevails, but being ignorant adds pain by the minute. Thanks a bunch, Tom Jenkins Scintilla, M17 #626 _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
BuscaBrisas' previous owner, Rod Johnson, closed up the original mouth that had been spread in the bolt-rope groove and opened up a new one a bit BELOW the normal boom position. I too use a sail stop, located under the sliding gooseneck to prevent the boom from sliding down when the sail is lowered. A line runs from the ring on the gooseneck down to the mast step to allow the main luff to be tensioned. Having the opening beneath the gooseneck allows the slugs to very compactly stack above the boom. I have had the gooseneck slip once or twice when I failed to sufficiently tighten the sail stop, but it was no big deal. I do keep a spare stop around, just in case... I do, however, make it a point not to sit or lean heavily on the gooseneck. :o) Tod (wondering if I should start producing sail stops and sell them at $8.99 apiece so I can retire early)
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+htmills=bright.net@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats- bounces+htmills=bright.net@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Ernie Priestley Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 8:28 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Sliding Goosenecks for newbies
Tom,
Buy something called a "sail track stop" and install it in the mast track just below the gooseneck. $9.49 at westmarine.com. Be sure to get the right size.
Ernie Priestley No Boat Yet
----- Original Message ---- From: Tom Jenkins <tjenk@gte.net> To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 1:35:19 PM Subject: M_Boats: Sliding Goosenecks for newbies
I have been looking over the rigging on my recently purchased 2004 M17 in anticipation of the first mast raising, and I notice that the boom is attached to the mast with a sliding gooseneck rather than a fixed mast bracket. The gooseneck has a ring on the bottom with two or three feet of tagline attached. I seems most logical to position it just below the entry slot with the line to a mast cleat pulling down, and the tension of the main halyard on the boltrope keeping it up. However, I envision the boom sliding to the deck when the main is lowered. I would be most grateful if someone out there could tell me how this should really be done. Some months back I ran across a simple rigging guide for the 17 on the web, but now that I have such a boat, it has disappeared into cyberspace. I suppose in the best of all possible worlds, detailed guides for rigging and sailing the Montgomery boats would be available on CD for $5 + S/H. Sure, trial and error eventually prevails, but being ignorant adds pain by the minute.
Thanks a bunch, Tom Jenkins Scintilla, M17 #626
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Tod, I'll take two of those sail-stop thingys! Seriously, your advice is on target, and I am much obliged. I belatedly looked at a photo of my boat rigged at the factory, and the boom is about a foot below the mouth. Before I start butchering the mast, I will try to stack the slugs below the mouth, with the boom supported by a stop. Maybe a fabricated stainless steel device could be slipped into the slot below the slide to support the boom at anchor or whatever. Someone invariably leans on a boom, or uses it to hand stuff. Add that to your catalog of specialized Monty gear. Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: <htmills@bright.net> To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 6:08 PM Subject: RE: M_Boats: Sliding Goosenecks for newbies
BuscaBrisas' previous owner, Rod Johnson, closed up the original mouth that had been spread in the bolt-rope groove and opened up a new one a bit BELOW the normal boom position. I too use a sail stop, located under the sliding gooseneck to prevent the boom from sliding down when the sail is lowered. A line runs from the ring on the gooseneck down to the mast step to allow the main luff to be tensioned.
Having the opening beneath the gooseneck allows the slugs to very compactly stack above the boom.
I have had the gooseneck slip once or twice when I failed to sufficiently tighten the sail stop, but it was no big deal. I do keep a spare stop around, just in case...
I do, however, make it a point not to sit or lean heavily on the gooseneck. :o)
Tod
(wondering if I should start producing sail stops and sell them at $8.99 apiece so I can retire early)
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+htmills=bright.net@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats- bounces+htmills=bright.net@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Ernie Priestley Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 8:28 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Sliding Goosenecks for newbies
Tom,
Buy something called a "sail track stop" and install it in the mast track just below the gooseneck. $9.49 at westmarine.com. Be sure to get the right size.
Ernie Priestley No Boat Yet
----- Original Message ---- From: Tom Jenkins <tjenk@gte.net> To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 1:35:19 PM Subject: M_Boats: Sliding Goosenecks for newbies
I have been looking over the rigging on my recently purchased 2004 M17 in anticipation of the first mast raising, and I notice that the boom is attached to the mast with a sliding gooseneck rather than a fixed mast bracket. The gooseneck has a ring on the bottom with two or three feet of tagline attached. I seems most logical to position it just below the entry slot with the line to a mast cleat pulling down, and the tension of the main halyard on the boltrope keeping it up. However, I envision the boom sliding to the deck when the main is lowered. I would be most grateful if someone out there could tell me how this should really be done. Some months back I ran across a simple rigging guide for the 17 on the web, but now that I have such a boat, it has disappeared into cyberspace. I suppose in the best of all possible worlds, detailed guides for rigging and sailing the Montgomery boats would be available on CD for $5 + S/H. Sure, trial and error eventually prevails, but being ignorant adds pain by the minute.
Thanks a bunch, Tom Jenkins Scintilla, M17 #626
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To Ernie and everyone, It's pretty tough to remain ignorant with you guys around. Thanks for the great suggestions. The West Marine 1/2 inch diameter sail stop will likely work well enough for the time being. My new/used boat has all the rigging wrapped on the mast with 20 nylon ties, so unwrapping and assembling everything will be kind of like Christmas. Of course, when you assemble a toy some part is always missing. Tom Jenkins Scintilla ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ernie Priestley" <ernie_priestley@yahoo.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 5:27 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Sliding Goosenecks for newbies
Tom,
Buy something called a "sail track stop" and install it in the mast track just below the gooseneck. $9.49 at westmarine.com. Be sure to get the right size.
Ernie Priestley No Boat Yet
----- Original Message ---- From: Tom Jenkins <tjenk@gte.net> To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 1:35:19 PM Subject: M_Boats: Sliding Goosenecks for newbies
I have been looking over the rigging on my recently purchased 2004 M17 in anticipation of the first mast raising, and I notice that the boom is attached to the mast with a sliding gooseneck rather than a fixed mast bracket. The gooseneck has a ring on the bottom with two or three feet of tagline attached. I seems most logical to position it just below the entry slot with the line to a mast cleat pulling down, and the tension of the main halyard on the boltrope keeping it up. However, I envision the boom sliding to the deck when the main is lowered. I would be most grateful if someone out there could tell me how this should really be done. Some months back I ran across a simple rigging guide for the 17 on the web, but now that I have such a boat, it has disappeared into cyberspace. I suppose in the best of all possible worlds, detailed guides for rigging and sailing the Montgomery boats would be available on CD for $5 + S/H. Sure, trial and error eventually prevails, but being ignorant adds pain by the minute.
Thanks a bunch, Tom Jenkins Scintilla, M17 #626
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