It seems as if my back no longer likes lifting a 50 lb Honda 5 from the car to the transom of my M17. Has anyone out there used an air-cooled Honda 2 hp 4 stroke with success on such a boat? If so, what kinds of speeds can you cruise a few miles at, and what is the approximate fuel consumption at speed? I certainly don't want to run more motor than I have to. (Dave Scobie, I think you ran a small motor on Air Born in the San Juans, but I can't remember the details.) Thanks a bunch,) Tom Jenkins M17 Scintilla
On 28-Mar-12 8:07 PM, Tom Jenkins wrote: Hi Tom, Some years ago, an owner of an M17 - without a motor - had to take his M17 up the Thames River to a launch ramp. I had an M15 with a 2 HP HONDA. I took the HONDA 2 HP to New London, CT and mounted it on the M17. With four adults in the cockpit, we went upriver against the outgoing tide and the HONDA 2 HP had no problem with that load. Could we tow a water skier? No. But 3 to 4 Knots upstream with four adults in the cockpit is acceptable performance as far as I'm concerned. Connie ex M15 #400 LEPPO
It seems as if my back no longer likes lifting a 50 lb Honda 5 from the car to the transom of my M17. Has anyone out there used an air-cooled Honda 2 hp 4 stroke with success on such a boat? If so, what kinds of speeds can you cruise a few miles at, and what is the approximate fuel consumption at speed? I certainly don't want to run more motor than I have to. (Dave Scobie, I think you ran a small motor on Air Born in the San Juans, but I can't remember the details.) Thanks a bunch,)
Tom Jenkins M17 Scintilla
Nothing to do with motors here Connie, but I happened to be browsing my old issues of Wooden Boat magazine the other day and in the May/June 1997 issue in Peter Spectre's On The Waterfront column about 10 lead-off column inches were devoted to your London Boat Show and International Model Show adventures. There are a few of us who would kill for that much ink in WBM. t On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Conbert Benneck <chbenneck@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On 28-Mar-12 8:07 PM, Tom Jenkins wrote:
Hi Tom,
Some years ago, an owner of an M17 - without a motor - had to take his M17 up the Thames River to a launch ramp.
I had an M15 with a 2 HP HONDA.
I took the HONDA 2 HP to New London, CT and mounted it on the M17.
With four adults in the cockpit, we went upriver against the outgoing tide and the HONDA 2 HP had no problem with that load.
Could we tow a water skier? No. But 3 to 4 Knots upstream with four adults in the cockpit is acceptable performance as far as I'm concerned.
Connie ex M15 #400 LEPPO
It seems as if my back no longer likes lifting a 50 lb Honda 5 from the car to the transom of my M17. Has anyone out there used an air-cooled Honda 2 hp 4 stroke with success on such a boat? If so, what kinds of speeds can you cruise a few miles at, and what is the approximate fuel consumption at speed? I certainly don't want to run more motor than I have to. (Dave Scobie, I think you ran a small motor on Air Born in the San Juans, but I can't remember the details.) Thanks a bunch,)
Tom Jenkins M17 Scintilla
great story, I know that stretch of water, impressive performance. -----Original Message----- From: Conbert Benneck <chbenneck@sbcglobal.net> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wed, Mar 28, 2012 7:20 pm Subject: Re: M_Boats: motors On 28-Mar-12 8:07 PM, Tom Jenkins wrote: Hi Tom, Some years ago, an owner of an M17 - without a motor - had to take his M17 up the Thames River to a launch ramp. I had an M15 with a 2 HP HONDA. I took the HONDA 2 HP to New London, CT and mounted it on the M17. With four adults in the cockpit, we went upriver against the outgoing tide and the HONDA 2 HP had no problem with that load. Could we tow a water skier? No. But 3 to 4 Knots upstream with four adults in the cockpit is acceptable performance as far as I'm concerned. Connie ex M15 #400 LEPPO
It seems as if my back no longer likes lifting a 50 lb Honda 5 from the car to the transom of my M17. Has anyone out there used an air-cooled Honda 2 hp 4 stroke with success on such a boat? If so, what kinds of speeds can you cruise a few miles at, and what is the approximate fuel consumption at speed? I certainly don't want to run more motor than I have to. (Dave Scobie, I think you ran a small motor on Air Born in the San Juans, but I can't remember the details.) Thanks a bunch,)
Tom Jenkins M17 Scintilla
Connie, As usual, you and others in the group have provided valuable data to chew on. You all have a nice day. Tom On Mar 28, 2012, at 5:20 PM, Conbert Benneck wrote:
On 28-Mar-12 8:07 PM, Tom Jenkins wrote:
Hi Tom,
Some years ago, an owner of an M17 - without a motor - had to take his M17 up the Thames River to a launch ramp.
I had an M15 with a 2 HP HONDA.
I took the HONDA 2 HP to New London, CT and mounted it on the M17.
With four adults in the cockpit, we went upriver against the outgoing tide and the HONDA 2 HP had no problem with that load.
Could we tow a water skier? No. But 3 to 4 Knots upstream with four adults in the cockpit is acceptable performance as far as I'm concerned.
Connie ex M15 #400 LEPPO
It seems as if my back no longer likes lifting a 50 lb Honda 5 from the car to the transom of my M17. Has anyone out there used an air-cooled Honda 2 hp 4 stroke with success on such a boat? If so, what kinds of speeds can you cruise a few miles at, and what is the approximate fuel consumption at speed? I certainly don't want to run more motor than I have to. (Dave Scobie, I think you ran a small motor on Air Born in the San Juans, but I can't remember the details.) Thanks a bunch,)
Tom Jenkins M17 Scintilla
Going back to the motor thread: We are unable to lift the Nissan 4hp motor up and down for the "new" 1981 boat we just bought. Home sailing ground is Port Townsend, Wa and the Sound is full of currents and tides to work against. Summer sailing is not the windiest time of year but the currents remain and I am concerned that we have a big enough motor. Has anyone used a pulley system off a stern rail to lift the motor in place? We have the cut out transom. Pam On Mar 29, 2012, at 9:31 AM, Tom Jenkins wrote:
Connie, As usual, you and others in the group have provided valuable data to chew on. You all have a nice day. Tom
On Mar 28, 2012, at 5:20 PM, Conbert Benneck wrote:
On 28-Mar-12 8:07 PM, Tom Jenkins wrote:
Hi Tom,
Some years ago, an owner of an M17 - without a motor - had to take his M17 up the Thames River to a launch ramp.
I had an M15 with a 2 HP HONDA.
I took the HONDA 2 HP to New London, CT and mounted it on the M17.
With four adults in the cockpit, we went upriver against the outgoing tide and the HONDA 2 HP had no problem with that load.
Could we tow a water skier? No. But 3 to 4 Knots upstream with four adults in the cockpit is acceptable performance as far as I'm concerned.
Connie ex M15 #400 LEPPO
It seems as if my back no longer likes lifting a 50 lb Honda 5 from the car to the transom of my M17. Has anyone out there used an air-cooled Honda 2 hp 4 stroke with success on such a boat? If so, what kinds of speeds can you cruise a few miles at, and what is the approximate fuel consumption at speed? I certainly don't want to run more motor than I have to. (Dave Scobie, I think you ran a small motor on Air Born in the San Juans, but I can't remember the details.) Thanks a bunch,)
Tom Jenkins M17 Scintilla
Pam, Can't say I have done it but if you do it from there it will be a two person job. The stern rail isn't far enough outboard for a direct lift. You would need one person to hold the motor off of the transom while the other person hauls on the tackle. You might consider making an arm, attached to a pole that has pintles to match the gudeons. Once the mast is up you can replace the mast carrier with the hoist arm contraption. The mast carrier you have may be strong enough for an attachment but.... Just food for thought. Doug Kelch, "Seas the Day" M15 G #310 ________________________________ From: pam and dana <denko@broadstripe.net> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2012 12:27 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: motors Going back to the motor thread: We are unable to lift the Nissan 4hp motor up and down for the "new" 1981 boat we just bought. Home sailing ground is Port Townsend, Wa and the Sound is full of currents and tides to work against. Summer sailing is not the windiest time of year but the currents remain and I am concerned that we have a big enough motor. Has anyone used a pulley system off a stern rail to lift the motor in place? We have the cut out transom. Pam On Mar 29, 2012, at 9:31 AM, Tom Jenkins wrote:
Connie, As usual, you and others in the group have provided valuable data to chew on. You all have a nice day. Tom
On Mar 28, 2012, at 5:20 PM, Conbert Benneck wrote:
On 28-Mar-12 8:07 PM, Tom Jenkins wrote:
Hi Tom,
Some years ago, an owner of an M17 - without a motor - had to take his M17 up the Thames River to a launch ramp.
I had an M15 with a 2 HP HONDA.
I took the HONDA 2 HP to New London, CT and mounted it on the M17.
With four adults in the cockpit, we went upriver against the outgoing tide and the HONDA 2 HP had no problem with that load.
Could we tow a water skier? No. But 3 to 4 Knots upstream with four adults in the cockpit is acceptable performance as far as I'm concerned.
Connie ex M15 #400 LEPPO
It seems as if my back no longer likes lifting a 50 lb Honda 5 from the car to the transom of my M17. Has anyone out there used an air-cooled Honda 2 hp 4 stroke with success on such a boat? If so, what kinds of speeds can you cruise a few miles at, and what is the approximate fuel consumption at speed? I certainly don't want to run more motor than I have to. (Dave Scobie, I think you ran a small motor on Air Born in the San Juans, but I can't remember the details.) Thanks a bunch,)
Tom Jenkins M17 Scintilla
Tom....unless you're worried about someone stealing the motor, you can leave it on while trailering your boat. Not a problem. Bob
From: tjenk@gte.net Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 17:07:41 -0700 To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: motors
It seems as if my back no longer likes lifting a 50 lb Honda 5 from the car to the transom of my M17. Has anyone out there used an air-cooled Honda 2 hp 4 stroke with success on such a boat? If so, what kinds of speeds can you cruise a few miles at, and what is the approximate fuel consumption at speed? I certainly don't want to run more motor than I have to. (Dave Scobie, I think you ran a small motor on Air Born in the San Juans, but I can't remember the details.) Thanks a bunch,)
Tom Jenkins M17 Scintilla
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