Bob Is it possible to get new mast for M15? Or can I get it re anadized or powder coated? Thanks Capt Jim Sadler SV Pelican Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> ________________________________ From: montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com> on behalf of Bob Eeg <montgomeryboats@hotmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2020 8:41:34 AM To: John Schinnerer <john@eco-living.net>; For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Lake Havasu for sailing? Well Sean Mulligan sponsored the Lake Havasu Pocket Cruisers Convention for many years. About 170 pocket cruisers with family showed up. A week of sailing and we took over the marina in front of the London Bridge Resort. We got a free slip with the room. Sailing in the sun was fun in February. All types of boats. Call the London Bridge Resort and ask about a slip..? Be well Bob Sent from my iPad

On Nov 9, 2020, at 10:41 PM, John Schinnerer via montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:

Hi all,

Anyone here been sailing on Lake Havasu?

Just wondering if it's any good, especially in the "off-season" wintry part of the year when maybe there's less powerboat madness.

There's a whole bunch of boat-in campsites...

thanks, John

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Jim: Is the mast damaged? Is there extensive corrosion under the hardware? Has it been bent? :: Dave Scobie :: M6'8" #650 :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred/ On Fri, Nov 13, 2020, 5:35 AM Jim Sadler <jimsadler@jascopacific.com> wrote:

Bob Is it possible to get new mast for M15? Or can I get it re anadized or powder coated?

Thanks Capt Jim Sadler SV Pelican

Unless you do the refinishing yourself, hand painting after taking off all hardware, sanding, sanding, acid etching, paint, repaint, it will be cheaper to buy a new mast. A spar shop will likely know a place that can do painting (there is an Westsail 26 near me, for example, that has a freshly painted mast - the owner likely had it done at Port Townsend Rigging or SEA Marine at Point Hudson). This is $$$. A painted mast on a trailered boat, or boat that is rigged/de-rigged often will quickly show wear, scratches and dings. Save your money and buy new sails - the #1 thing you can do to make the boat sail better. Or put the funds into the cruising kitty and take a long trip! :: Dave Scobie :: M6'8" #650 :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred/ On Fri, Nov 13, 2020, 10:45 AM Jim Sadler <jimsadler@jascopacific.com> wrote:

Thanks David

Not damaged

No extensive corrosion

Not bent

I is just 40 years old and now the Pelican is not berthed the garage, but in a slip in Oceanside harbor.

It just doesn’t look Bristol like the rest of the vessel

Capt Jim

-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com> On Behalf Of Dave Scobie Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 8:34 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: new M15 mast

Jim:

Is the mast damaged? Is there extensive corrosion under the hardware? Has it been bent?

:: Dave Scobie :: M6'8" #650 :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred/

On Fri, Nov 13, 2020, 5:35 AM Jim Sadler <jimsadler@jascopacific.com> wrote:

...

Bob Is it possible to get new mast for M15? Or can I get it re anadized or powder coated?

Thanks Capt Jim Sadler SV Pelican

Jim. Anything with a buffing agent will remove the alum oxide where the anodizing is missing. The oxide is a very effective protectant. Buffing compound will also damage/remove the anodizing. I'm sure there is discussion out there on some www-site on waxing aluminum spars but IMO you are making work and causing more work to be needed in the future. I never once had anyone every question how the masts looked on my '84 M15 and '83 M17. Folks looked at the brightwork and shiny gel coat topsides and hull. SWEET PEA's (a M17) tanbark sails also received positive comments. Raise the mast and go sailing. Better use of your time. :: Dave Scobie :: M6'8" #650 :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred/ On Fri, Nov 13, 2020, 12:58 PM Jim Sadler <jimsadler@jascopacific.com> wrote:

Thanks Captain

I checked on new mast......$700 plus $300 shipping!

Is there anyway to just clean it? Without damage to anodize ? Maybe wax it? The Pelican looks great except for the bloches on the mast.

Jim S

-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com> On Behalf Of Dave Scobie Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 10:58 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: new M15 mast

Unless you do the refinishing yourself, hand painting after taking off all hardware, sanding, sanding, acid etching, paint, repaint, it will be cheaper to buy a new mast.

A spar shop will likely know a place that can do painting (there is an Westsail 26 near me, for example, that has a freshly painted mast - the owner likely had it done at Port Townsend Rigging or SEA Marine at Point Hudson). This is $$$.

A painted mast on a trailered boat, or boat that is rigged/de-rigged often will quickly show wear, scratches and dings.

Save your money and buy new sails - the #1 thing you can do to make the boat sail better. Or put the funds into the cruising kitty and take a long trip!

:: Dave Scobie :: M6'8" #650 :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred/

On Fri, Nov 13, 2020, 10:45 AM Jim Sadler <jimsadler@jascopacific.com> wrote:

...

Thanks David

Not damaged

No extensive corrosion

Not bent

I is just 40 years old and now the Pelican is not berthed the garage, but in a slip in Oceanside harbor.

It just doesn’t look Bristol like the rest of the vessel

Capt Jim

-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com> On Behalf Of Dave Scobie Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 8:34 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: new M15 mast

Jim:

Is the mast damaged? Is there extensive corrosion under the hardware? Has it been bent?

:: Dave Scobie :: M6'8" #650 :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred/

On Fri, Nov 13, 2020, 5:35 AM Jim Sadler <jimsadler@jascopacific.com> wrote:

...

Bob Is it possible to get new mast for M15? Or can I get it re anadized or powder coated?

Thanks Capt Jim Sadler SV Pelican

Jim. Contact Harry at Elliott/Pettison Sailmakers - epsails.com Harry knows the boats. Just confirm a few measurements to make sure your boat's rig hasn't been modified. :: Dave Scobie :: M6'8" #650 :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred/ On Sat, Nov 14, 2020, 9:24 AM Jim Sadler <jimsadler@jascopacific.com> wrote:

Thanks skipper once again for getting my head straight. Where are you getting your sails?

Capt Jim SV Pelican

-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com> On Behalf Of Dave Scobie Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 1:15 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: new M15 mast

Jim.

Anything with a buffing agent will remove the alum oxide where the anodizing is missing. The oxide is a very effective protectant.

Buffing compound will also damage/remove the anodizing.

I'm sure there is discussion out there on some www-site on waxing aluminum spars but IMO you are making work and causing more work to be needed in the future. I never once had anyone every question how the masts looked on my '84 M15 and '83 M17. Folks looked at the brightwork and shiny gel coat topsides and hull. SWEET PEA's (a M17) tanbark sails also received positive comments.

Raise the mast and go sailing. Better use of your time.

:: Dave Scobie :: M6'8" #650 :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred/

On Fri, Nov 13, 2020, 12:58 PM Jim Sadler <jimsadler@jascopacific.com> wrote:

...

Thanks Captain

I checked on new mast......$700 plus $300 shipping!

Is there anyway to just clean it? Without damage to anodize ? Maybe wax it? The Pelican looks great except for the bloches on the mast.

Jim S

-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com> On Behalf Of Dave Scobie Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 10:58 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: new M15 mast

Unless you do the refinishing yourself, hand painting after taking off all hardware, sanding, sanding, acid etching, paint, repaint, it will be cheaper to buy a new mast.

A spar shop will likely know a place that can do painting (there is an Westsail 26 near me, for example, that has a freshly painted mast - the owner likely had it done at Port Townsend Rigging or SEA Marine at Point Hudson). This is $$$.

A painted mast on a trailered boat, or boat that is rigged/de-rigged often will quickly show wear, scratches and dings.

Save your money and buy new sails - the #1 thing you can do to make the boat sail better. Or put the funds into the cruising kitty and take a long trip!

:: Dave Scobie :: M6'8" #650 :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred/

On Fri, Nov 13, 2020, 10:45 AM Jim Sadler <jimsadler@jascopacific.com> wrote:

...

Thanks David

Not damaged

No extensive corrosion

Not bent

I is just 40 years old and now the Pelican is not berthed the garage, but in a slip in Oceanside harbor.

It just doesn’t look Bristol like the rest of the vessel

Capt Jim

-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com> On Behalf Of Dave Scobie Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 8:34 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: new M15 mast

Jim:

Is the mast damaged? Is there extensive corrosion under the hardware? Has it been bent?

:: Dave Scobie :: M6'8" #650 :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred/

On Fri, Nov 13, 2020, 5:35 AM Jim Sadler <jimsadler@jascopacific.com> wrote:

...

Bob Is it possible to get new mast for M15? Or can I get it re anadized or powder coated?

Thanks Capt Jim Sadler SV Pelican