Re: M_Boats: Raising mainsheet block cleat for easier release
Larry, I'll get a few digital photos when I next rig in Monterey a week from today. Original Message: ----------------- From: Hughston, Larry Larry.Hughston@dgs.ca.gov Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 10:48:33 -0700 To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: Raising mainsheet block cleat for easier release Neil, where are you sailing these days? Can you post some images of the main sheet rig? ---Larry in Old M-15 hull 189 -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of ndorf@surfbest.net Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 9:27 AM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: Raising mainsheet block cleat for easier release Hi Gordon, On my 1985 M15, I have a swivel cam cleat with bullseye that, I don't know, may have been original equipment. The stainless plate to which both the cleat and bullseye are attached has bent down, resulting in more effort (more leaning down) to secure the mainsheet when I need to do so. I've bent the ss plate up a couple of times but you can only bend ss so much before it will break. For a visual, the my current hardware looks very much like the Harken model 240 (look on Defender). Rather than replace with a new 240, after talking with a Harken rep I have decided for the purposes you mentioned, to go with a combo ratchet block and angled cam swivel base. Prbably something like the Harken #1235 ratchet block attached to the #144 swivel cam cleat. This will should only provide a better angle of control for the skipper, but also more purchase in ratcheting in the main under sporting conditions and close points of sail. All it takes is money :-( What say the rest of you M15 sailors? Any other ideas? Neil / 1985 M15 / Roseville CA _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web LIVE Free email based on Microsoft® Exchange technology - http://link.mail2web.com/LIVE
Neil- (and others who might be interested) Looks like there isn't enough interest to set up a special day to tune boats, so maybe we can do thise. I'm sailing with Sal in the CC and intend to leave here (Sacatomatoes) Fri morn ing and should get to Monterey about noonish. Maybe we can connect sometime in the afternoon. Jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: <ndorf@surfbest.net> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 3:58 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Raising mainsheet block cleat for easier release Larry, I'll get a few digital photos when I next rig in Monterey a week from today. Original Message: ----------------- From: Hughston, Larry Larry.Hughston@dgs.ca.gov Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 10:48:33 -0700 To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: Raising mainsheet block cleat for easier release Neil, where are you sailing these days? Can you post some images of the main sheet rig? ---Larry in Old M-15 hull 189 -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of ndorf@surfbest.net Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 9:27 AM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: Raising mainsheet block cleat for easier release Hi Gordon, On my 1985 M15, I have a swivel cam cleat with bullseye that, I don't know, may have been original equipment. The stainless plate to which both the cleat and bullseye are attached has bent down, resulting in more effort (more leaning down) to secure the mainsheet when I need to do so. I've bent the ss plate up a couple of times but you can only bend ss so much before it will break. For a visual, the my current hardware looks very much like the Harken model 240 (look on Defender). Rather than replace with a new 240, after talking with a Harken rep I have decided for the purposes you mentioned, to go with a combo ratchet block and angled cam swivel base. Prbably something like the Harken #1235 ratchet block attached to the #144 swivel cam cleat. This will should only provide a better angle of control for the skipper, but also more purchase in ratcheting in the main under sporting conditions and close points of sail. All it takes is money :-( What say the rest of you M15 sailors? Any other ideas? Neil / 1985 M15 / Roseville CA _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web LIVE - Free email based on Microsoft® Exchange technology - http://link.mail2web.com/LIVE _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet!
All, I will likely be there Friday afternoon and can help as well. Also , I'd like to volunteer to sail with someone if there's spare room. My preference is sail something with them funny wrinkles on the side. Thanks, Stan aka Paintboy --- On Fri, 7/16/10, jerry <jerry@jerrymontgomery.org> wrote: From: jerry <jerry@jerrymontgomery.org> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Raising mainsheet block cleat for easier release To: ndorf@surfbest.net, "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Date: Friday, July 16, 2010, 4:56 PM Neil- (and others who might be interested) Looks like there isn't enough interest to set up a special day to tune boats, so maybe we can do thise. I'm sailing with Sal in the CC and intend to leave here (Sacatomatoes) Fri morn ing and should get to Monterey about noonish. Maybe we can connect sometime in the afternoon. Jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: <ndorf@surfbest.net> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 3:58 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Raising mainsheet block cleat for easier release Larry, I'll get a few digital photos when I next rig in Monterey a week from today. Original Message: ----------------- From: Hughston, Larry Larry.Hughston@dgs.ca.gov Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 10:48:33 -0700 To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: Raising mainsheet block cleat for easier release Neil, where are you sailing these days? Can you post some images of the main sheet rig? ---Larry in Old M-15 hull 189 -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of ndorf@surfbest.net Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 9:27 AM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: Raising mainsheet block cleat for easier release Hi Gordon, On my 1985 M15, I have a swivel cam cleat with bullseye that, I don't know, may have been original equipment. The stainless plate to which both the cleat and bullseye are attached has bent down, resulting in more effort (more leaning down) to secure the mainsheet when I need to do so. I've bent the ss plate up a couple of times but you can only bend ss so much before it will break. For a visual, the my current hardware looks very much like the Harken model 240 (look on Defender). Rather than replace with a new 240, after talking with a Harken rep I have decided for the purposes you mentioned, to go with a combo ratchet block and angled cam swivel base. Prbably something like the Harken #1235 ratchet block attached to the #144 swivel cam cleat. This will should only provide a better angle of control for the skipper, but also more purchase in ratcheting in the main under sporting conditions and close points of sail. All it takes is money :-( What say the rest of you M15 sailors? Any other ideas? Neil / 1985 M15 / Roseville CA _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web LIVE - Free email based on Microsoft® Exchange technology - http://link.mail2web.com/LIVE _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet!
Stan, You can join me in the Gaff Cutter if you like. I could certainly use your expertise on board as I rarely ever race. I will be in Monterey early in the week and we could join the tuning session on Friday. Thanks Doug ________________________________ From: Stan Susman <stanpfa@pacbell.net> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Fri, July 16, 2010 5:10:26 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Raising mainsheet block cleat for easier release All, I will likely be there Friday afternoon and can help as well. Also , I'd like to volunteer to sail with someone if there's spare room. My preference is sail something with them funny wrinkles on the side. Thanks, Stan aka Paintboy --- On Fri, 7/16/10, jerry <jerry@jerrymontgomery.org> wrote: From: jerry <jerry@jerrymontgomery.org> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Raising mainsheet block cleat for easier release To: ndorf@surfbest.net, "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Date: Friday, July 16, 2010, 4:56 PM Neil- (and others who might be interested) Looks like there isn't enough interest to set up a special day to tune boats, so maybe we can do thise. I'm sailing with Sal in the CC and intend to leave here (Sacatomatoes) Fri morn ing and should get to Monterey about noonish. Maybe we can connect sometime in the afternoon. Jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: <ndorf@surfbest.net> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 3:58 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Raising mainsheet block cleat for easier release Larry, I'll get a few digital photos when I next rig in Monterey a week from today. Original Message: ----------------- From: Hughston, Larry Larry.Hughston@dgs.ca.gov Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 10:48:33 -0700 To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: Raising mainsheet block cleat for easier release Neil, where are you sailing these days? Can you post some images of the main sheet rig? ---Larry in Old M-15 hull 189 -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of ndorf@surfbest.net Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 9:27 AM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: Raising mainsheet block cleat for easier release Hi Gordon, On my 1985 M15, I have a swivel cam cleat with bullseye that, I don't know, may have been original equipment. The stainless plate to which both the cleat and bullseye are attached has bent down, resulting in more effort (more leaning down) to secure the mainsheet when I need to do so. I've bent the ss plate up a couple of times but you can only bend ss so much before it will break. For a visual, the my current hardware looks very much like the Harken model 240 (look on Defender). Rather than replace with a new 240, after talking with a Harken rep I have decided for the purposes you mentioned, to go with a combo ratchet block and angled cam swivel base. Prbably something like the Harken #1235 ratchet block attached to the #144 swivel cam cleat. This will should only provide a better angle of control for the skipper, but also more purchase in ratcheting in the main under sporting conditions and close points of sail. All it takes is money :-( What say the rest of you M15 sailors? Any other ideas? Neil / 1985 M15 / Roseville CA _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web LIVE - Free email based on Microsoft® Exchange technology - http://link.mail2web.com/LIVE _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet!
Sal- We're going to have to remember to be very humble after the race; arrogance never becomes people. Jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Kelch" <doug_kelch@yahoo.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 6:04 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Raising mainsheet block cleat for easier release Stan, You can join me in the Gaff Cutter if you like. I could certainly use your expertise on board as I rarely ever race. I will be in Monterey early in the week and we could join the tuning session on Friday. Thanks Doug ________________________________ From: Stan Susman <stanpfa@pacbell.net> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Fri, July 16, 2010 5:10:26 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Raising mainsheet block cleat for easier release All, I will likely be there Friday afternoon and can help as well. Also , I'd like to volunteer to sail with someone if there's spare room. My preference is sail something with them funny wrinkles on the side. Thanks, Stan aka Paintboy --- On Fri, 7/16/10, jerry <jerry@jerrymontgomery.org> wrote: From: jerry <jerry@jerrymontgomery.org> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Raising mainsheet block cleat for easier release To: ndorf@surfbest.net, "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Date: Friday, July 16, 2010, 4:56 PM Neil- (and others who might be interested) Looks like there isn't enough interest to set up a special day to tune boats, so maybe we can do thise. I'm sailing with Sal in the CC and intend to leave here (Sacatomatoes) Fri morn ing and should get to Monterey about noonish. Maybe we can connect sometime in the afternoon. Jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: <ndorf@surfbest.net> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 3:58 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Raising mainsheet block cleat for easier release Larry, I'll get a few digital photos when I next rig in Monterey a week from today. Original Message: ----------------- From: Hughston, Larry Larry.Hughston@dgs.ca.gov Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 10:48:33 -0700 To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: Raising mainsheet block cleat for easier release Neil, where are you sailing these days? Can you post some images of the main sheet rig? ---Larry in Old M-15 hull 189 -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of ndorf@surfbest.net Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 9:27 AM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: Raising mainsheet block cleat for easier release Hi Gordon, On my 1985 M15, I have a swivel cam cleat with bullseye that, I don't know, may have been original equipment. The stainless plate to which both the cleat and bullseye are attached has bent down, resulting in more effort (more leaning down) to secure the mainsheet when I need to do so. I've bent the ss plate up a couple of times but you can only bend ss so much before it will break. For a visual, the my current hardware looks very much like the Harken model 240 (look on Defender). Rather than replace with a new 240, after talking with a Harken rep I have decided for the purposes you mentioned, to go with a combo ratchet block and angled cam swivel base. Prbably something like the Harken #1235 ratchet block attached to the #144 swivel cam cleat. This will should only provide a better angle of control for the skipper, but also more purchase in ratcheting in the main under sporting conditions and close points of sail. All it takes is money :-( What say the rest of you M15 sailors? Any other ideas? Neil / 1985 M15 / Roseville CA _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web LIVE - Free email based on Microsoft® Exchange technology - http://link.mail2web.com/LIVE _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet!
Thanks Neil. ----Larry Old M-15 189 -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of ndorf@surfbest.net Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 3:58 PM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: Raising mainsheet block cleat for easier release Larry, I'll get a few digital photos when I next rig in Monterey a week from today. Original Message: ----------------- From: Hughston, Larry Larry.Hughston@dgs.ca.gov Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 10:48:33 -0700 To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: Raising mainsheet block cleat for easier release Neil, where are you sailing these days? Can you post some images of the main sheet rig? ---Larry in Old M-15 hull 189 -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of ndorf@surfbest.net Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 9:27 AM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: Raising mainsheet block cleat for easier release Hi Gordon, On my 1985 M15, I have a swivel cam cleat with bullseye that, I don't know, may have been original equipment. The stainless plate to which both the cleat and bullseye are attached has bent down, resulting in more effort (more leaning down) to secure the mainsheet when I need to do so. I've bent the ss plate up a couple of times but you can only bend ss so much before it will break. For a visual, the my current hardware looks very much like the Harken model 240 (look on Defender). Rather than replace with a new 240, after talking with a Harken rep I have decided for the purposes you mentioned, to go with a combo ratchet block and angled cam swivel base. Prbably something like the Harken #1235 ratchet block attached to the #144 swivel cam cleat. This will should only provide a better angle of control for the skipper, but also more purchase in ratcheting in the main under sporting conditions and close points of sail. All it takes is money :-( What say the rest of you M15 sailors? Any other ideas? Neil / 1985 M15 / Roseville CA _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web LIVE - Free email based on Microsoft(r) Exchange technology - http://link.mail2web.com/LIVE _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet!
Neil, did you have any photos of your mainsail halyard system that I could view? Thanks, -----Larry in old 189 -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Hughston, Larry Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 11:16 AM To: ndorf@surfbest.net; For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Raising mainsheet block cleat for easier release Thanks Neil. ----Larry Old M-15 189 -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of ndorf@surfbest.net Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 3:58 PM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: Raising mainsheet block cleat for easier release Larry, I'll get a few digital photos when I next rig in Monterey a week from today. Original Message: ----------------- From: Hughston, Larry Larry.Hughston@dgs.ca.gov Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 10:48:33 -0700 To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: Raising mainsheet block cleat for easier release Neil, where are you sailing these days? Can you post some images of the main sheet rig? ---Larry in Old M-15 hull 189 -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of ndorf@surfbest.net Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 9:27 AM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: Raising mainsheet block cleat for easier release Hi Gordon, On my 1985 M15, I have a swivel cam cleat with bullseye that, I don't know, may have been original equipment. The stainless plate to which both the cleat and bullseye are attached has bent down, resulting in more effort (more leaning down) to secure the mainsheet when I need to do so. I've bent the ss plate up a couple of times but you can only bend ss so much before it will break. For a visual, the my current hardware looks very much like the Harken model 240 (look on Defender). Rather than replace with a new 240, after talking with a Harken rep I have decided for the purposes you mentioned, to go with a combo ratchet block and angled cam swivel base. Prbably something like the Harken #1235 ratchet block attached to the #144 swivel cam cleat. This will should only provide a better angle of control for the skipper, but also more purchase in ratcheting in the main under sporting conditions and close points of sail. All it takes is money :-( What say the rest of you M15 sailors? Any other ideas? Neil / 1985 M15 / Roseville CA _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web LIVE - Free email based on Microsoft(r) Exchange technology - http://link.mail2web.com/LIVE _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet!
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Stan Susman