All, As a matter of course, sailing along the Intracoastal Gulf in the Monty 17 brings you to many fine beaches that are simply a wade away. Don’t need a dinghy for such places. Sometimes, however, the swing on the hook and the falling tide can lead to the stub keel grounding, and when you wake from your nap and shift your weight, the boat rolls to one side or the other. Then you wait for the tide to bring you afloat again so you can get underweigh. Has anyone added drying out legs to allow sitting on an even keel in such, or similar circumstances? I envision beefing up the hull in the area of attachment with a half inch thick garolite plate both inboard and outboard, and a couple of ash or oak two by twos with a swiveling square foot of epoxy-drenched three quarter inch ply on the foot of the legs…held upright each side by tag lines to the after cleats and to a purpose-built strong point on the sheer forward, with the hull similarly strengthened there. Where, longitudinally, do you think the best position for the legs would be…about even with the mainsheet traveler? Thanks for any experience and advice. Will
On 2/10/2017 7:34 PM, Wilson Frye wrote Hi Will, The English do this all the time. Tides on the English Channel are in the 24 to 27 foot range. Go look at what English sailors do to solve the problem; they use legs to keep a keel boat level; they use bilge keels so that he boat will sit evenly on the ground when the tide falls. Do a bit of research on English sailor's methods for answers to your questions. Sailed down the English Channel in 1966 - been there: done that. Ciao, Connie ex M15 #400 LEPPO ex Northeast 38 RHE ex Tripp-Lentsch 29 FUN TOO
All,
As a matter of course, sailing along the Intracoastal Gulf in the Monty 17 brings you to many fine beaches that are simply a wade away. Don’t need a dinghy for such places. Sometimes, however, the swing on the hook and the falling tide can lead to the stub keel grounding, and when you wake from your nap and shift your weight, the boat rolls to one side or the other. Then you wait for the tide to bring you afloat again so you can get underweigh.
Has anyone added drying out legs to allow sitting on an even keel in such, or similar circumstances? I envision beefing up the hull in the area of attachment with a half inch thick garolite plate both inboard and outboard, and a couple of ash or oak two by twos with a swiveling square foot of epoxy-drenched three quarter inch ply on the foot of the legs…held upright each side by tag lines to the after cleats and to a purpose-built strong point on the sheer forward, with the hull similarly strengthened there. Where, longitudinally, do you think the best position for the legs would be…about even with the mainsheet traveler?
Thanks for any experience and advice. Will
On 2/10/2017 10:33 PM, Conbert Benneck wrote:
On 2/10/2017 7:34 PM, Wilson Frye wrote
Hi Will, Go to "GOOGLE UK" and enter "Sheer legs" . That will get you into the right area with lots of information. One source I found was: *smallboats*monthly.com/article/beaching-*legs*/ Ciao, Connie
Hi Will,
The English do this all the time.
Tides on the English Channel are in the 24 to 27 foot range.
Go look at what English sailors do to solve the problem; they use legs to keep a keel boat level; they use bilge keels so that he boat will sit evenly on the ground when the tide falls.
Do a bit of research on English sailor's methods for answers to your questions.
Sailed down the English Channel in 1966 - been there: done that.
Ciao, Connie
ex M15 #400 LEPPO ex Northeast 38 RHE ex Tripp-Lentsch 29 FUN TOO
All,
As a matter of course, sailing along the Intracoastal Gulf in the Monty 17 brings you to many fine beaches that are simply a wade away. Don’t need a dinghy for such places. Sometimes, however, the swing on the hook and the falling tide can lead to the stub keel grounding, and when you wake from your nap and shift your weight, the boat rolls to one side or the other. Then you wait for the tide to bring you afloat again so you can get underweigh.
Has anyone added drying out legs to allow sitting on an even keel in such, or similar circumstances? I envision beefing up the hull in the area of attachment with a half inch thick garolite plate both inboard and outboard, and a couple of ash or oak two by twos with a swiveling square foot of epoxy-drenched three quarter inch ply on the foot of the legs…held upright each side by tag lines to the after cleats and to a purpose-built strong point on the sheer forward, with the hull similarly strengthened there. Where, longitudinally, do you think the best position for the legs would be…about even with the mainsheet traveler?
Thanks for any experience and advice. Will
Thanks, Connie. I’ll have a look. And if I do it, will report back on how things turned out. Will
On Feb 11, 2017, at 10:27 AM, Conbert Benneck <chbenneck@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2/10/2017 10:33 PM, Conbert Benneck wrote:
On 2/10/2017 7:34 PM, Wilson Frye wrote
Hi Will,
Go to "GOOGLE UK" and enter "Sheer legs" .
That will get you into the right area with lots of information.
One source I found was: *smallboats*monthly.com/article/beaching-*legs*/
Ciao, Connie
Hi Will,
The English do this all the time.
Tides on the English Channel are in the 24 to 27 foot range.
Go look at what English sailors do to solve the problem; they use legs to keep a keel boat level; they use bilge keels so that he boat will sit evenly on the ground when the tide falls.
Do a bit of research on English sailor's methods for answers to your questions.
Sailed down the English Channel in 1966 - been there: done that.
Ciao, Connie
ex M15 #400 LEPPO ex Northeast 38 RHE ex Tripp-Lentsch 29 FUN TOO
All,
As a matter of course, sailing along the Intracoastal Gulf in the Monty 17 brings you to many fine beaches that are simply a wade away. Don’t need a dinghy for such places. Sometimes, however, the swing on the hook and the falling tide can lead to the stub keel grounding, and when you wake from your nap and shift your weight, the boat rolls to one side or the other. Then you wait for the tide to bring you afloat again so you can get underweigh.
Has anyone added drying out legs to allow sitting on an even keel in such, or similar circumstances? I envision beefing up the hull in the area of attachment with a half inch thick garolite plate both inboard and outboard, and a couple of ash or oak two by twos with a swiveling square foot of epoxy-drenched three quarter inch ply on the foot of the legs…held upright each side by tag lines to the after cleats and to a purpose-built strong point on the sheer forward, with the hull similarly strengthened there. Where, longitudinally, do you think the best position for the legs would be…about even with the mainsheet traveler?
Thanks for any experience and advice. Will
Will, How about two "A" frames that would fold parallel for storage yet when spread apart and attached to a foot board which runs from one leg bottom to the other leg bottom. Set one frame port and starboard just aft of the keel stub which would place them about midway in the cockpit somewhat where you would place a leeboard.Then fashion a sling from some old cloth firehose or nylon strapping which has a 5# weight sewn right in the middle of it yet placed inside the hose or in a pouch attached to the nylon strap. Once your bipods are set and tied off the rails port and starboard you use lines to drag the weighted sling under the stern (raise the rudder first) and "keel haul" it up to the "A" frames where it is attached. Then as the boat settles the boat weight is taken up by the sling which transfers the balanced weight of the hull down the legs and is dispersed on the bottom by the boards between the legs. You then have a three point landing with the stub keel and the two "A" frame planks. I leave the details to your imagination. Perhaps some sort or pulley system attached to the top of one of the "A" frames could be used to take up slack on the sling as needed Fair winds, Tom B On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 7:34 PM, Wilson Frye <fryewe@mac.com> wrote:
All,
As a matter of course, sailing along the Intracoastal Gulf in the Monty 17 brings you to many fine beaches that are simply a wade away. Don’t need a dinghy for such places. Sometimes, however, the swing on the hook and the falling tide can lead to the stub keel grounding, and when you wake from your nap and shift your weight, the boat rolls to one side or the other. Then you wait for the tide to bring you afloat again so you can get underweigh.
Has anyone added drying out legs to allow sitting on an even keel in such, or similar circumstances? I envision beefing up the hull in the area of attachment with a half inch thick garolite plate both inboard and outboard, and a couple of ash or oak two by twos with a swiveling square foot of epoxy-drenched three quarter inch ply on the foot of the legs…held upright each side by tag lines to the after cleats and to a purpose-built strong point on the sheer forward, with the hull similarly strengthened there. Where, longitudinally, do you think the best position for the legs would be…about even with the mainsheet traveler?
Thanks for any experience and advice. Will
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