Re: M_Boats: Deck connectors for mast light and VHF
My wires were torn up when I got my boat and I thought the prior owner was just not careful. After repairing and breaking the wires three or four times I said thats enough. Not sure what brand but purchased deck fittings (one for lights and one for VHF)at West Marine and they work great. The hardest part was getting the VHF cable up though the compression post. On the newer boats it is a small tube and it was quite a job to get the cable all the way up and out at the cabin top. The light wires I ran out the same hole that is there for the cabin light wires, but I had to drill another hole on the other side to run the VHF out. Jim Ellsworth M-17 #603 Grace -----Original Message-----
From: Bill Wickett <billwick@gmail.com> Sent: Jan 14, 2010 9:10 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Deck connectors for mast light and VHF
Thanks, I did find that one. Good methods in that post from Randy. I was looking for specific references to the through deck fittings. Right now just the wire goes through the mast step and is vulnerable to being crushed.
Bill On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 11:58 AM, <gilasailr@aol.com> wrote:
Bill try this one.
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In a message dated 1/14/2010 9:51:12 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, billwick@gmail.com writes:
Mast light electrical and VHF wiring comes up throught the mast step. Electrical has been crushed and chafed during mast stepping. I will replace. I am thinking of moving the wires aft of the step. Will still bring it up throught the compression post, then exit out the back side of the post and through the deck at that point. I have seen some deck fittings for this (maybe Blue-Sea?). Has anyone else relocated the wiring like this?
Any suggestions on connectors that work well for them? www.?
I searched the archives first before asking this.
Thanks
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Thanks Jim. I plan drill a hole on the top after side of the comp. post to exit them before sending through the deck back of the mast step. I will look at the WM catalog and also at local chandelry. On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Jim Ellsworth <j_ellsworth@earthlink.net>wrote:
My wires were torn up when I got my boat and I thought the prior owner was just not careful. After repairing and breaking the wires three or four times I said thats enough. Not sure what brand but purchased deck fittings (one for lights and one for VHF)at West Marine and they work great. The hardest part was getting the VHF cable up though the compression post. On the newer boats it is a small tube and it was quite a job to get the cable all the way up and out at the cabin top. The light wires I ran out the same hole that is there for the cabin light wires, but I had to drill another hole on the other side to run the VHF out.
Jim Ellsworth M-17 #603 Grace
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Wickett <billwick@gmail.com> Sent: Jan 14, 2010 9:10 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Deck connectors for mast light and VHF
Thanks, I did find that one. Good methods in that post from Randy. I was looking for specific references to the through deck fittings. Right now just the wire goes through the mast step and is vulnerable to being crushed.
Bill On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 11:58 AM, <gilasailr@aol.com> wrote:
Bill try this one.
_
http://www.mail-archive.com/montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com/msg02653
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In a message dated 1/14/2010 9:51:12 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, billwick@gmail.com writes:
Mast light electrical and VHF wiring comes up throught the mast step. Electrical has been crushed and chafed during mast stepping. I will replace. I am thinking of moving the wires aft of the step. Will still bring it up throught the compression post, then exit out the back side of the post and through the deck at that point. I have seen some deck fittings for this (maybe Blue-Sea?). Has anyone else relocated the wiring like this?
Any suggestions on connectors that work well for them? www.?
I searched the archives first before asking this.
Thanks
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I ran everything straight down the mast through the mast base. I drilled a 5/8" hole in the mast base and through the coach roof. I then brought the mast head/deck light and VHF antenna cable through both and down the compression post. I ground out the back of the mast slot about 5/8" wide up about 3 ". Bob assured me that the strength of the mast would not be affected. The purpose of grinding out the back of the mast slot was so that when I raise and lower the mast, I don't crush the wires and cable. So far it has been very sucessful. No mashed wires and not leaking. Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Wickett" <billwick@gmail.com> To: "Jim Ellsworth" <j_ellsworth@earthlink.net>; "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 2:26 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Deck connectors for mast light and VHF
Thanks Jim. I plan drill a hole on the top after side of the comp. post to exit them before sending through the deck back of the mast step. I will look at the WM catalog and also at local chandelry.
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Jim Ellsworth <j_ellsworth@earthlink.net>wrote:
My wires were torn up when I got my boat and I thought the prior owner was just not careful. After repairing and breaking the wires three or four times I said thats enough. Not sure what brand but purchased deck fittings (one for lights and one for VHF)at West Marine and they work great. The hardest part was getting the VHF cable up though the compression post. On the newer boats it is a small tube and it was quite a job to get the cable all the way up and out at the cabin top. The light wires I ran out the same hole that is there for the cabin light wires, but I had to drill another hole on the other side to run the VHF out.
Jim Ellsworth M-17 #603 Grace
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Wickett <billwick@gmail.com> Sent: Jan 14, 2010 9:10 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Deck connectors for mast light and VHF
Thanks, I did find that one. Good methods in that post from Randy. I was looking for specific references to the through deck fittings. Right now just the wire goes through the mast step and is vulnerable to being crushed.
Bill On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 11:58 AM, <gilasailr@aol.com> wrote:
Bill try this one.
_
http://www.mail-archive.com/montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com/msg02653
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GO M-17 # 316a LB/GF!
In a message dated 1/14/2010 9:51:12 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, billwick@gmail.com writes:
Mast light electrical and VHF wiring comes up throught the mast step. Electrical has been crushed and chafed during mast stepping. I will replace. I am thinking of moving the wires aft of the step. Will still bring it up throught the compression post, then exit out the back side of the post and through the deck at that point. I have seen some deck fittings for this (maybe Blue-Sea?). Has anyone else relocated the wiring like this?
Any suggestions on connectors that work well for them? www.?
I searched the archives first before asking this.
Thanks
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Joe, Did you use a deck connector or just caulk up the hole with the wires in place? My mast was partially ground away on the "heel", but it still crushed the wires over a few times up and down. Can't hold the deck wires back out of the way enough. Maybe I will try enlarging the sail slot higher so I can lay the wires back before I raise the mast. It's all covered up for now anyway. Got milder today and the snow is off the tarp. Just a short thaw I am sure. Going the Toronto Boat Show tomorrow. Bill On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Joe Murphy <seagray@embarqmail.com> wrote:
I ran everything straight down the mast through the mast base. I drilled a 5/8" hole in the mast base and through the coach roof. I then brought the mast head/deck light and VHF antenna cable through both and down the compression post. I ground out the back of the mast slot about 5/8" wide up about 3 ". Bob assured me that the strength of the mast would not be affected. The purpose of grinding out the back of the mast slot was so that when I raise and lower the mast, I don't crush the wires and cable. So far it has been very sucessful. No mashed wires and not leaking. Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Wickett" <billwick@gmail.com> To: "Jim Ellsworth" <j_ellsworth@earthlink.net>; "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: M_Boats: Deck connectors for mast light and VHF
Thanks Jim. I plan drill a hole on the top after side of the comp. post to
exit them before sending through the deck back of the mast step. I will look at the WM catalog and also at local chandelry.
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Jim Ellsworth <j_ellsworth@earthlink.net
wrote:
My wires were torn up when I got my boat and I thought the prior owner was
just not careful. After repairing and breaking the wires three or four times I said thats enough. Not sure what brand but purchased deck fittings (one for lights and one for VHF)at West Marine and they work great. The hardest part was getting the VHF cable up though the compression post. On the newer boats it is a small tube and it was quite a job to get the cable all the way up and out at the cabin top. The light wires I ran out the same hole that is there for the cabin light wires, but I had to drill another hole on the other side to run the VHF out.
Jim Ellsworth M-17 #603 Grace
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Wickett <billwick@gmail.com> Sent: Jan 14, 2010 9:10 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Deck connectors for mast light and VHF
Thanks, I did find that one. Good methods in that post from Randy. I was looking for specific references to the through deck fittings. Right now just the wire goes through the mast step and is vulnerable to being crushed.
Bill On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 11:58 AM, <gilasailr@aol.com> wrote:
Bill try this one.
_
http://www.mail-archive.com/montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com/msg02653
. html_ (
http://www.mail-archive.com/montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com/msg02653.h...
)
GO M-17 # 316a LB/GF!
In a message dated 1/14/2010 9:51:12 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, billwick@gmail.com writes:
Mast light electrical and VHF wiring comes up throught the mast step. Electrical has been crushed and chafed during mast stepping. I will replace. I am thinking of moving the wires aft of the step. Will still bring it up throught the compression post, then exit out the back side of the post and through the deck at that point. I have seen some deck fittings for >> this (maybe Blue-Sea?). Has anyone else relocated the wiring like this?
Any suggestions on connectors that work well for them? www.?
I searched the archives first before asking this.
Thanks
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Bill, No deck connector. I enlarged inner core portion of the hole in the coachroof and filled it with epoxy and then drilled a new 3/8" hole and with a little extra filing, got the hole into the right shape to allow the cable and the three wires through. I used a generous portion of "Boat Caulk". I have about a foot of cable and wire coming out of the hole on top. Before I put on the wire and antenna connectors I put a cord guard down flush with the deck. I got the cord guard from the hardware store. It is a guard that you'd see on a steam iron and power tools that holds the cord up and away from the iron/tool. This keeps the wires up off the coach roof when raising and lowering the mast. It was the main reason I had to grind out the back of the mast slot. So now I just make the connections and stuff it up into the mast. the wire bends slightly with the guard on but not enough to get jammed under the mast. Just keep an eye on it when raising and lowering. Have a good time at the Toronto Show. Keep the economy going and buy lots of unecessary boat stuff. Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Wickett" <billwick@gmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 4:12 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Deck connectors for mast light and VHF
Joe,
Did you use a deck connector or just caulk up the hole with the wires in place? My mast was partially ground away on the "heel", but it still crushed the wires over a few times up and down. Can't hold the deck wires back out of the way enough. Maybe I will try enlarging the sail slot higher so I can lay the wires back before I raise the mast. It's all covered up for now anyway. Got milder today and the snow is off the tarp. Just a short thaw I am sure. Going the Toronto Boat Show tomorrow.
Bill
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Joe Murphy <seagray@embarqmail.com> wrote:
I ran everything straight down the mast through the mast base. I drilled a 5/8" hole in the mast base and through the coach roof. I then brought the mast head/deck light and VHF antenna cable through both and down the compression post. I ground out the back of the mast slot about 5/8" wide up about 3 ". Bob assured me that the strength of the mast would not be affected. The purpose of grinding out the back of the mast slot was so that when I raise and lower the mast, I don't crush the wires and cable. So far it has been very sucessful. No mashed wires and not leaking. Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Wickett" <billwick@gmail.com> To: "Jim Ellsworth" <j_ellsworth@earthlink.net>; "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: M_Boats: Deck connectors for mast light and VHF
Thanks Jim. I plan drill a hole on the top after side of the comp. post to
exit them before sending through the deck back of the mast step. I will look at the WM catalog and also at local chandelry.
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Jim Ellsworth <j_ellsworth@earthlink.net
wrote:
My wires were torn up when I got my boat and I thought the prior owner was
just not careful. After repairing and breaking the wires three or four times I said thats enough. Not sure what brand but purchased deck fittings (one for lights and one for VHF)at West Marine and they work great. The hardest part was getting the VHF cable up though the compression post. On the newer boats it is a small tube and it was quite a job to get the cable all the way up and out at the cabin top. The light wires I ran out the same hole that is there for the cabin light wires, but I had to drill another hole on the other side to run the VHF out.
Jim Ellsworth M-17 #603 Grace
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Wickett <billwick@gmail.com> Sent: Jan 14, 2010 9:10 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Deck connectors for mast light and VHF
Thanks, I did find that one. Good methods in that post from Randy. I was looking for specific references to the through deck fittings. Right now just the wire goes through the mast step and is vulnerable to being crushed.
Bill On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 11:58 AM, <gilasailr@aol.com> wrote:
Bill try this one.
_
http://www.mail-archive.com/montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com/msg02653
. html_ (
http://www.mail-archive.com/montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com/msg02653.h...
)
GO M-17 # 316a LB/GF!
In a message dated 1/14/2010 9:51:12 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, billwick@gmail.com writes:
Mast light electrical and VHF wiring comes up throught the mast step. Electrical has been crushed and chafed during mast stepping. I will replace. I am thinking of moving the wires aft of the step. Will still bring it up throught the compression post, then exit out the back side of the post and through the deck at that point. I have seen some deck fittings for >> this (maybe Blue-Sea?). Has anyone else relocated the wiring like this?
Any suggestions on connectors that work well for them? www.?
I searched the archives first before asking this.
Thanks
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My M17 is one of the origonal Jerry Monthomery built boats. The electrical connector for the "steaming light" on the forward side of the mast exited through a hole in the side of the mast to a deck connector on the Starboard side of the mast with the wires run along the overhead and down the back of the compression post. When refurbishing the mast, I put a tricolor light and a compact racing VHF antenna on the masthead and replaced the steaming light. The 3 wires plus ground exit in the origonal opening on the starboard side of the mast and go through a 4 wire connector. On the back of the switch panel, I used a set of diodes so that the entire tricolor light is on when sailing, the tricolor and steaming lights are on when under power and both the masthead white light and the steaming light are lit when anchored. The VHF coax exits on the Port side of the mast, through a connector and on to the radio. The plugs are located so that if the mast is lowered before disconnecting, the wires will not be pulled out. Whitebeard M17 #14, Griselda
From: seagray@embarqmail.com To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 16:42:02 -0500 Subject: Re: M_Boats: Deck connectors for mast light and VHF
Bill, No deck connector. I enlarged inner core portion of the hole in the coachroof and filled it with epoxy and then drilled a new 3/8" hole and with a little extra filing, got the hole into the right shape to allow the cable and the three wires through. I used a generous portion of "Boat Caulk". I have about a foot of cable and wire coming out of the hole on top. Before I put on the wire and antenna connectors I put a cord guard down flush with the deck. I got the cord guard from the hardware store. It is a guard that you'd see on a steam iron and power tools that holds the cord up and away from the iron/tool. This keeps the wires up off the coach roof when raising and lowering the mast. It was the main reason I had to grind out the back of the mast slot. So now I just make the connections and stuff it up into the mast. the wire bends slightly with the guard on but not enough to get jammed under the mast. Just keep an eye on it when raising and lowering. Have a good time at the Toronto Show. Keep the economy going and buy lots of unecessary boat stuff. Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Wickett" <billwick@gmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 4:12 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Deck connectors for mast light and VHF
Joe,
Did you use a deck connector or just caulk up the hole with the wires in place? My mast was partially ground away on the "heel", but it still crushed the wires over a few times up and down. Can't hold the deck wires back out of the way enough. Maybe I will try enlarging the sail slot higher so I can lay the wires back before I raise the mast. It's all covered up for now anyway. Got milder today and the snow is off the tarp. Just a short thaw I am sure. Going the Toronto Boat Show tomorrow.
Bill
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Joe Murphy <seagray@embarqmail.com> wrote:
I ran everything straight down the mast through the mast base. I drilled a 5/8" hole in the mast base and through the coach roof. I then brought the mast head/deck light and VHF antenna cable through both and down the compression post. I ground out the back of the mast slot about 5/8" wide up about 3 ". Bob assured me that the strength of the mast would not be affected. The purpose of grinding out the back of the mast slot was so that when I raise and lower the mast, I don't crush the wires and cable. So far it has been very sucessful. No mashed wires and not leaking. Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Wickett" <billwick@gmail.com> To: "Jim Ellsworth" <j_ellsworth@earthlink.net>; "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: M_Boats: Deck connectors for mast light and VHF
Thanks Jim. I plan drill a hole on the top after side of the comp. post to
exit them before sending through the deck back of the mast step. I will look at the WM catalog and also at local chandelry.
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Jim Ellsworth <j_ellsworth@earthlink.net
wrote:
My wires were torn up when I got my boat and I thought the prior owner was
just not careful. After repairing and breaking the wires three or four times I said thats enough. Not sure what brand but purchased deck fittings (one for lights and one for VHF)at West Marine and they work great. The hardest part was getting the VHF cable up though the compression post. On the newer boats it is a small tube and it was quite a job to get the cable all the way up and out at the cabin top. The light wires I ran out the same hole that is there for the cabin light wires, but I had to drill another hole on the other side to run the VHF out.
Jim Ellsworth M-17 #603 Grace
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Wickett <billwick@gmail.com> Sent: Jan 14, 2010 9:10 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Deck connectors for mast light and VHF
Thanks, I did find that one. Good methods in that post from Randy. I was looking for specific references to the through deck fittings. Right now just the wire goes through the mast step and is vulnerable to being crushed.
Bill On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 11:58 AM, <gilasailr@aol.com> wrote:
> Bill try this one. > > _ >
http://www.mail-archive.com/montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com/msg02653
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http://www.mail-archive.com/montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com/msg02653.h...
> ) > > GO > M-17 # 316a LB/GF! > > > > In a message dated 1/14/2010 9:51:12 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, > billwick@gmail.com writes: > > Mast light electrical and VHF wiring comes up throught the mast > step. > Electrical has been crushed and chafed during mast stepping. I will > replace. > I am thinking of moving the wires aft of the step. Will still bring > it up > throught the compression post, then exit out the back side of the > post and > through the deck at that point. I have seen some deck fittings for > >> this > (maybe Blue-Sea?). Has anyone else relocated the wiring like this? > > Any suggestions on connectors that work well for them? www.? > > I searched the archives first before asking this. > > Thanks > > Bill Wickett > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! > _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
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