Hello, I have just joined this discussion group and this is my first post. Â I live in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada and sail on Lake Winnipeg which is the worlds 10th largest freshwater lake and is 264 miles long and 20-30 miles wide. Â My current boat, a 12Ft Tumbleweed, keeps me pretty close to home port so I am loking for a larger boat to extend my horizons. After much research I have concluded that an M17 fits my requirements. I have found several for sale in Minnesota and Wisconsen that are from the late 70s. I have noticed that some of the boats have the outboard mounted directly on the transom and others require a motor mount. Does anyone know if the transom mount with its cutout was specific to a particular year of manufacture. Also has anyone had experience with this model. I was wondering how succeptable this style is to taking on water over the stern. Â Thanks for your replies.
Sagita is a 1974 Model possibly the oldest on this list. She has the transom cutout and I have a Suzuki 4hp 4-stroke mounted there. I was out this weekend in Corpus Christi bay in Texas, winds were 20-25 knots and the chop was about 2-3 ft I was flying a storm jib and a full main. Later I reefed the main mostly since this was the first real sail of the season I still needed to tune my rigging. I have never had any problems with water over the stern. I imaging conditions would have to be pretty bad to get water over the stern. This boat still amazes me with the its abilities, I must admit I was having second thoughts of being out on a 20-25 knot day, but once I got in tune it was quite fun. The only thin about mounting the motor on the transom, is it gets in the way of the adjustable backstay. But I would rather deal with that than bothering with an external mount. Gilbert Sagita 1974 M-17 -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+gilbert=mindgame.com@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+gilbert=mindgame.com@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Glen Pollard Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 1:16 PM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: M17 Transom Shape Hello, I have just joined this discussion group and this is my first post. I live in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada and sail on Lake Winnipeg which is the worlds 10th largest freshwater lake and is 264 miles long and 20-30 miles wide. My current boat, a 12Ft Tumbleweed, keeps me pretty close to home port so I am loking for a larger boat to extend my horizons. After much research I have concluded that an M17 fits my requirements. I have found several for sale in Minnesota and Wisconsen that are from the late 70s. I have noticed that some of the boats have the outboard mounted directly on the transom and others require a motor mount. Does anyone know if the transom mount with its cutout was specific to a particular year of manufacture. Also has anyone had experience with this model. I was wondering how succeptable this style is to taking on water over the stern. Thanks for your replies. _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
What's your hull #, Gilbert? --Craig ----- Original Message ----- From: Gilbert Landin To: 'For and about Montgomery Sailboats' Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 2:41 PM Subject: M17 Transom Shape Sagita is a 1974 Model possibly the oldest on this list. She has the transom cutout and I have a Suzuki 4hp 4-stroke mounted there. I was out this weekend in Corpus Christi bay in Texas, winds were 20-25 knots and the chop was about 2-3 ft I was flying a storm jib and a full main. Later I reefed the main mostly since this was the first real sail of the season I still needed to tune my rigging. I have never had any problems with water over the stern. I imaging conditions would have to be pretty bad to get water over the stern. This boat still amazes me with the its abilities, I must admit I was having second thoughts of being out on a 20-25 knot day, but once I got in tune it was quite fun. The only thin about mounting the motor on the transom, is it gets in the way of the adjustable backstay. But I would rather deal with that than bothering with an external mount. Gilbert Sagita 1974 M-17 -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+gilbert=mindgame.com@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+gilbert=mindgame.com@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Glen Pollard Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 1:16 PM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: M17 Transom Shape Hello, I have just joined this discussion group and this is my first post. I live in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada and sail on Lake Winnipeg which is the worlds 10th largest freshwater lake and is 264 miles long and 20-30 miles wide. My current boat, a 12Ft Tumbleweed, keeps me pretty close to home port so I am loking for a larger boat to extend my horizons. After much research I have concluded that an M17 fits my requirements. I have found several for sale in Minnesota and Wisconsen that are from the late 70s. I have noticed that some of the boats have the outboard mounted directly on the transom and others require a motor mount. Does anyone know if the transom mount with its cutout was specific to a particular year of manufacture. Also has anyone had experience with this model. I was wondering how succeptable this style is to taking on water over the stern. Thanks for your replies.
I have a '76 M17 with the transom cutout, & use a 4hp Johnson long shaft outboard. I rotate my motor 180 degrees to reverse it. I found mounting the o'board on the transom in the cutout restricted my ability to pivot it around when it's necessary to reverse it, the sides of the cutout hampered rotating it 180 degrees. Also a retractable o'bd bracket gets the prop farther down into the water and makes it easier to get it up out when you want to. I like the retractable mount for these reasons, if your o'bd has a reverse gear ( does not have to pivot 180 degrees)and you feel you can get it far enough up out of the water when you want to, you probably will be OK with just mounting it on the transom . I have never taken a wave through the cutout, nor have I heard of any other Mboater having this happen. Hope this helps Wayne M17 #204 "Intrepid" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glen Pollard" <glen@pollard.ca> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 1:16 PM Subject: M_Boats: M17 Transom Shape
Hello, I have just joined this discussion group and this is my first post. I live in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada and sail on Lake Winnipeg which is the worlds 10th largest freshwater lake and is 264 miles long and 20-30 miles wide. My current boat, a 12Ft Tumbleweed, keeps me pretty close to home port so I am loking for a larger boat to extend my horizons. After much research I have concluded that an M17 fits my requirements. I have found several for sale in Minnesota and Wisconsen that are from the late 70s. I have noticed that some of the boats have the outboard mounted directly on the transom and others require a motor mount. Does anyone know if the transom mount with its cutout was specific to a particular year of manufacture. Also has anyone had experience with this model. I was wondering how succeptable this style is to taking on water over the stern. Thanks for your replies.
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